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Muldrake
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Joined: 19 Sep 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:13 am    Post subject:  How Spam and Bashing Will Be Treated.
Subject description: Because its clear current methods are failing.
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I'm tired of people using a banning as some kind of threat or n00b-bashing when they have no authorisation over that. Unless you're a moderator, you can't dictate that.

I've tried in the past, to just clean up topics by removing spam, and leaving replies which even with spam, hold some relevance to the situation.

But frak it.

If you spam, or make reference to it by trying to knock them down. You post goes. Regardless of what else your post holds.

Do not reply to spam or bashes, just PM me with the thread, and I will clean it up. PM's get notified in my email, so first chance I get, it'll be sorted.

Everyone here thinks they are so much better than everyone else, and that, they have the right to put everyone else in their place, ie, on the floor grovelling because they are right, and the other people are all wrong, foolish, and pathetic.

Well, the only people pathetic, are those who follow that belief. Those who have absolutely no respect for anyone else.

So, no more encouragement of the players. No more ego-boosting from other peoples mistakes.

You have a problem, you come to me. You have a death-message to pass on to the other guy. You PM him, or you email him.


You. Do. Not. Do. It. On. The. Forums.


We'll see how well this works. You have, all, been warned.

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Morpher
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Joined: 28 Jan 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've PM'd Banshee about this, about 20 minutes before your post conveniently. May be worth PMing to you as well.
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Banshee
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Joined: 15 Aug 2002
Location: Brazil

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice idea Smile.

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Suiseiseki
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Joined: 06 Oct 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would hope that you will in fact moderate properly. I can see you all ignoring Gufu bashing (which happens regardless of if his post is on topic or not) but having fits whenever he posts anything slightly irrelevant.

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Anderwin
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Joined: 16 May 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just leave Gufu along, he a funny guy sometimes, and some times he just say thing for fuc* hehe. Just leave he, Gufu have be on this forum long and he have always be like that. Remove he :S. I can't this who be the new Gufu then.

Anyways nice idea, I hate people say I'm Better then u and like that.
I have say this sometimes before in treads in this forum. Help the new some come and will learn to mod if them just get bad critic's and so on. Find it out ourself and like thats. Is so bad, if I can i try help them the noobs and newbies. Help the news so the modding not dead ^^. We need more guys/girls some mods the old C&C games <3.

Long live the C&C modding
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ChielScape
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Joined: 07 Mar 2006
Location: In ur BIOS, Steeln ur Megahurtz!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i said a year ago already, that if banshee actually told people WHY the get suspended in an E-mail, ppl are less likely to make the same mistake again. simply saying it in a topic that cant be visited due to the suspension would have little effect.

i think this forum also needs to take an example from overclock.net. their reputation system to be more specific.
they dont even have a crap forum. simply because nobody spams the entire forum. it might be a good idea to ask one of the moderators or webmasters there exactly how they handle it.
A "rants and raves" topic, as they call it, is something we're missing out on here too, AFAIK.

it might be just me, but ive felt the C&C Community weakening, if not starting to die, since the release of C&C3. Less is done, so the spam is just about everything left. when i just came here, voxels and SHPs were posted on a daily basis. maps too. now theres being do so little that even I dont post every time i come here.
like i said, might be me though.
dont get me wrong, theres still stuff going on, just less that it used to.
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Muldrake
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Joined: 19 Sep 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With newbies who have done wrong, I will PM them what happened, or people who have been complete idiots.

But banning is a power only Banshee holds, and I can't say what he does in that situation.
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ORCACommander
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Joined: 14 Feb 2006
Location: Flying into hostile territory

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I am glad more vigorous action is being taken. I think the lack of posting of resources is that the great makers of the majority of it are having to get jobs or are in college and they just don't have the time they used to have. With regards to maps people barely respond anymore to the maps in the TS archive (including the greats like (Ixith) and I think it was a year ago that someone posted a ra2/yr map. But cnc3 has not been killing the forum imo. Post count per day has actually increased somewhat because of it. When I first joined there would be 100-150 posts unread when I first log in on a week day with a week end lull into the 80's now a days is hovering around constantly in the 70-90 range. I hope things will improve though.
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Tyler Adams
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Joined: 08 Oct 2004
Location: Back in black.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, there are more POSTS, Orca, but less actual WORK released.. nobody's writing any stories, no new tutorials.. very few people are voxelling, and.. NOBODY is SHPing..

ChielScape wrote:
i said a year ago already, that if banshee actually told people WHY the get suspended in an E-mail, ppl are less likely to make the same mistake again. simply saying it in a topic that cant be visited due to the suspension would have little effect.

i think this forum also needs to take an example from overclock.net. their reputation system to be more specific.
they dont even have a crap forum. simply because nobody spams the entire forum. it might be a good idea to ask one of the moderators or webmasters there exactly how they handle it.
A "rants and raves" topic, as they call it, is something we're missing out on here too, AFAIK.

it might be just me, but ive felt the C&C Community weakening, if not starting to die, since the release of C&C3. Less is done, so the spam is just about everything left. when i just came here, voxels and SHPs were posted on a daily basis. maps too. now theres being do so little that even I dont post every time i come here.
like i said, might be me though.
dont get me wrong, theres still stuff going on, just less that it used to.


Agreed, completely.. Recently, there are.. very few new voxels, almost no new SHPs, and a new map is practically cause for celebration..

PPM is dying... Not that anyone really cares what some emo spamming dumbass thinks.. Rolling Eyes
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Banshee
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Joined: 15 Aug 2002
Location: Brazil

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PPM is not dying. It's actually getting more and more visited, however, the public is changing. C&C3 attracted the interest of people who were modding other games before, including TS.

Also, I must admit that I'm not giving enough support for voxel submissions, SHPs and maps, due to my university pressure. Once I get my vacations, I'll start news posting some of these resources and people will start posting their stuff to appear in the news #Tongue.

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ChielScape
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Joined: 07 Mar 2006
Location: In ur BIOS, Steeln ur Megahurtz!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muldrake wrote:
With newbies who have done wrong, I will PM them what happened, or people who have been complete idiots.

But banning is a power only Banshee holds, and I can't say what he does in that situation.

PMing would be the same. if you're suspended you cant visit your inbox, unless you log out first. but you cant log out since you're suspended.

Banshee wrote:
PPM is not dying. It's actually getting more and more visited, however, the public is changing. C&C3 attracted the interest of people who were modding other games before, including TS.

Also, I must admit that I'm not giving enough support for voxel submissions, SHPs and maps, due to my university pressure. Once I get my vacations, I'll start news posting some of these resources and people will start posting their stuff to appear in the news

good to hear there'll be some changes.

P.S. you still dont have vacation? :p
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Banshee
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Joined: 15 Aug 2002
Location: Brazil

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, my vacations will start in the middle of the next month. In the south hemisphere, it's winter and winter vacations are short. The summer ones are much longer than the winter ones.

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Muldrake
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Joined: 19 Sep 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I PM when I've cleaned up, or when someone spams.
I don't have the power to ban or suspend. Thus a PM does work in my case.
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Suiseiseki
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Joined: 06 Oct 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyler Adams wrote:
Yes, there are more POSTS, Orca, but less actual WORK released.. nobody's writing any stories, no new tutorials.. very few people are voxelling, and.. NOBODY is SHPing..


That's not strictly true, many people are simply at busy times in their lives and a lot of work being doing is for personal projects - not the community.

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Tyler Adams
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Joined: 08 Oct 2004
Location: Back in black.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carnivean wrote:
Tyler Adams wrote:
Yes, there are more POSTS, Orca, but less actual WORK released.. nobody's writing any stories, no new tutorials.. very few people are voxelling, and.. NOBODY is SHPing..


That's not strictly true, many people are simply at busy times in their lives and a lot of work being doing is for personal projects - not the community.


Well.. yeah, that's true, but.. nobody is releasing this work, anyways..
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Sir Modsalot
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Joined: 28 Sep 2005
Location: Mixing psilocybin in your drinks.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChielScape summed it up nicely, and IMO something should be done to jump-start PPM back to the level of work that was being done within that ChielScape remembers (or even that I remember; even around the point where I joined there was a decent level of projects being worked on, including some, not a lot, but some, now-forgotten mods for TS/FS/RA2/YR). With focus being mainly on C&C3 nowadays, I think overall work will drop and spam levels, no matter who causes them, will continue to rise.

Back when we had TumSun still, after I had joined I had done some digging in the still-existant threads from 2002-2004, and saw that even TumSun in that time frame had lost a bit of its buzz, even now TibWeb isn't the way TumSun used to be (though was that expected?)... so, I'm wondering now, what could we do to get the 2 forums going with maximum work output and minimum bullcrap? I really don't know.
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IcySon55
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Joined: 19 Nov 2003
Location: Overworld

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe we should release Taktics and start up that mapping competition, turn everyone into a mapper! #Tongue

The mod is nowhere near ready for release :'(

Shameless plug? "Yeah baby!"
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Owen the Elf Jedi
Rocket Cyborg


Joined: 30 Jun 2006
Location: A ship going to the Ark so I can blow the crap out of the Covenant, WA

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This could add some cheer to your lives. Of course, it probably won't.

I almost have a map ready; it will be ready in mid-to-late July, and if I still have a working internet computer at that point, we'll have new map (or possibly more than one). Yay!

I've discovered that I can't voxel or SHP, so I'll try to get as many maps and as much example "helper code"/tutorials as I can in the next few months. It won't push us to No.1, but hey, it'll still help.

PS: Help, I can't get the CP's to use amphibious transports (and they are needed for this map), please PM instructions.
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4StarGeneral
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Joined: 14 Sep 2006
Location: Constant Flux

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well at least there's still alot of us who still have the initiative we've had from the start and are steadily outputting more good work. It could never be as great as the hype in the past, but for now I'd say we are doing pretty good.

P.S. I don't post bullcrap, which is I'm so low in rank. Laughing It's like recycling; trash isn't good for anyone.
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Muldrake
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Joined: 19 Sep 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just an update, due to many things happening over the summer, namely moving out into a student house, working loads over the summer, and having to do a pass-or you get your ass handed to you on a silver platter.. exam, I've been a bit distant.
For that, my apologies. But I have every intention of coming back and serving these forums again. (That is.. inbetween flying my RC Aircraft and working on a mini-mod.)

So, if you have a problem, if something is up in the forums, and it needs the attention of a moderator, just PM me, and I'll be at it as soon as I can.
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Lt Albrecht
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Joined: 25 Jul 2007
Location: Hampshire, England. Creating RA2: Moscow's vengeance

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread sounds pro-active but unfortunately I don't know if this will work.

A little note to muldrake:
Sometimes I come across as rude when I don't mean too due to a lack of non-written communiication, for instance lines written that, if said, would be accompanied by a smile are often misunderstood as rude, if you think this to be the case can you just add a Wink to the end and PM me, after a while I'll get over it but every now and then I make a mistake. Thanks, and no I do not intend to use you as a personal mistake-corrector, if I think this is due I'll do it to my posts too.
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