Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:28 am Post subject:
Walls?
Subject description: Can it be possible?
Okay, I've played generals for a while, I only like it's gameplay... BUT!!! Here is what I am wondering... Is it possible to add buildable walls? I know that in the game Lord of the Rings Battle for Middle Earth II which uses an upgraded engine of the one Generals uses supports walls, and I was wondering... Is it possible to put that logic into Generals? It would make it more fun if it is possible. So is this possible to do, or is it impossible since the Battle ofr Middle Earth II uses a more advanced engine then Generals? QUICK_EDIT
You know, I was actually thinking about this today. There ARE walls for each faction already in Generals, they just never put them in the end product. I don't know if this is because they couldn't get it to code right or if they just decided it wasn't good enough gameplay wise. _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
Hmm... Well, I remember playing Battle for Middle Earth II a few months ago and looking at how the walls were made, maybe it can be coded into Generals probably? It'd defiantly add to the fun of the game and might help your mod, DaFool QUICK_EDIT
yes its possible. I made a map letting them be buildable. Unfortunately you are capable of laying an infanitly long streach of wall segments at 0 cost. So they would completely imbalance the game. _________________ Go to CJ get yo BJ only 2.99 fo a limited time - The Chronicals of BJ written by myself. QUICK_EDIT
Okay, I'll try that in a bit... On another hand, the heck does AOD mean? I don't even play Generals online or made any good maps yet (Though I'm wanting to learn for the uniqueness). QUICK_EDIT
AOD just means Art of Defence map. Its really meant for online play. Basically several human players go up against a specially scripted AI that sends 100's of units to attack. Its your mission to fend off the AI until some objective is complete. As far as I know my AOD is a one of a kind meaning this isnt a standard AOD map. QUICK_EDIT
You know, I was actually thinking about this today. There ARE walls for each faction already in Generals, they just never put them in the end product. I don't know if this is because they couldn't get it to code right or if they just decided it wasn't good enough gameplay wise.
Because the SAGE engine has uber crappy path finding, thus units dont know what to do with walls at times.
They fixed this with the RNA, but SAGE remains poor. QUICK_EDIT
"Because the SAGE engine has uber crappy path finding, thus units dont know what to do with walls at times.
They fixed this with the RNA, but SAGE remains poor."
No... Walls have issues with cost and placement. Walls have to cost 0 first of all, and they can be placed in an unlimited amount of sections at a time. You could make a wall that spans the whole map for free in 0 seconds. _________________ Go to CJ get yo BJ only 2.99 fo a limited time - The Chronicals of BJ written by myself. QUICK_EDIT
Another thing about walls is that they conform with the terrain, so that one wall is up on a hill and the other is lower than it, and they arn't connected. Crappy, to be sure.
For Generals, the only thing that I could tell you to do is to create a building that simulates several pieces of the of Wall, and build them as normal buildings. I've not messed with the Generals.ini files, but Shockwave mod, among others, do this for the GLA "Trashwall" (or something like that, I can't remember its name.)
Of course, this has its own limitations, like the AI may attack it, or ignore it completely, meaning you could wall yourself in and go to town with the Air Forces or something. _________________ You come for the modding but you stay for the Crap Forum. QUICK_EDIT
VGO lets you build a garrisonable barricade wall as a single section building, they're pretty useful for distracting AI Pattons and airstrikes... _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
"3 developers at EA have said this to be true, thats why walls in Generals and Tiberium Wars never made gold."
I dont care what you've heard. I'm telling you from experience that construction and placement are real bad issues. QUICK_EDIT
there's a TW mod that adds walls, I think it cost the right amount of money. BUt considering how little walls are ever used, cutting them isn't really a big deal. It's more for like kids who don't play on the internet who like the make cooll looking bases. _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
Walls can actually help with base building online too... Nothing better then being able to funnel a huge army of enemy infantry to the strongest entrance of your base through walls. QUICK_EDIT
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Walls?
