Parasite Enhancement Discussion Thread

[Atomic_Noodles]

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In Red Alert 3, Parasite Units (The Terror Drone) had additional logics where while inside their victim they played a set of sounds that looped while inside the vehicle. Once they killed the vehicle they would emerge with a seperate sound that played as well. (Similar to Ares' VehicleThief.ExitSound)

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[Krow]

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Use an invisible anim attached to the unit which plays the sound while it is inside?

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[OmegaBolt]

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AE should work, so you could use that. It does play DamageSound though but obviously every warhead triggers that as well.

[mevitar]

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Animations aren't replayed after the 1st hit of the parasite weapon. And although i didn't test it, I wouldn't be surprised if AE wasn't either.

You can try giving it AE animation with an infinite duration, which should make it work without any problem. I don't know what will happen if the parasite will get out before the unit dies, though...

[Krow]

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Eh? I don't think the parasite can ever get out BEFORE the unit dies. Is there any condition for that to happen?

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[Starkku]

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Krow wrote:

Eh? I don't think the parasite can ever get out BEFORE the unit dies. Is there any condition for that to happen?

Negative damage (repairing) destroys the parasite. Being hit by warhead with Sonic=yes removes the parasite.

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[Krow]

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Starkku wrote:

Being hit by warhead with Sonic=yes removes the parasite.

Yeah, you're right. Totally forgot about the sonic and parasite logic.

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[Darkstorm]

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Making a tag so the parasite requires an amount of healing to be removed and a weapon toggle for removal of the parasite (defaulting to yes with sonic=yes) would be a good improvement.

Maybe a tag for animation to be played instead of just the rocking. I'm just assuming this can't be done already. Therefore someone could attach a spark animation sort of like RA3 has.

Also a toggle to disable the rocking wouldn't be out of the question, YR² had a saboteur that would attach himself to a vehicle and do no damage like a limpet drone, but it still rocked the vehicle around.

[Atomic_Noodles]

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Darkstorm wrote:

Making a tag so the parasite requires an amount of healing to be removed and a weapon toggle for removal of the parasite (defaulting to yes with sonic=yes) would be a good improvement.

Maybe a tag for animation to be played instead of just the rocking. I'm just assuming this can't be done already. Therefore someone could attach a spark animation sort of like RA3 has.

Also a toggle to disable the rocking wouldn't be out of the question, YR² had a saboteur that would attach himself to a vehicle and do no damage like a limpet drone, but it still rocked the vehicle around.

Rocker=no on the Warhead....

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[ApolloTD]

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Rocker=no doesn't work, the parasite logic rocks units anyway.

[Atomic_Noodles]

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Darkstorm wrote:

Making a tag so the parasite requires an amount of healing to be removed and a weapon toggle for removal of the parasite (defaulting to yes with sonic=yes) would be a good improvement.

Maybe a tag for animation to be played instead of just the rocking. I'm just assuming this can't be done already. Therefore someone could attach a spark animation sort of like RA3 has.

Also a toggle to disable the rocking wouldn't be out of the question, YR² had a saboteur that would attach himself to a vehicle and do no damage like a limpet drone, but it still rocked the vehicle around.

Added suggestions to the blueprint.

"Should Parasite Unit be immune to Sonic? Sonic.Immune=boolean"

"And allow the Rocker Flag to affect if the Parasite can rock the victim or not when damaging it."

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[MasterHaosis]

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Atomic_Noodles wrote:

"Should Parasite Unit be immune to Sonic? Sonic.Immune=boolean"

But how do you mean removing parasite then? With repair only?
Also why is so important parasite to be immune to sonic? Sonic weapons are rarely used as far I can see.
But I agree with your idea, however I suggest it to be changed little.
No need tag to be immune to sonic, but global tag per weapon/ warhead if it can destroy parasite or not.
For example
DestroyParasite=yes
So you can put on sonic DestroyParasite=no in turn
because maybe more weapon/warheads should be customized, such as distruptors or magnetic weapons or whatever.

Atomic_Noodles wrote:

"And allow the Rocker Flag to affect if the Parasite can rock the victim or not when damaging it."

I agree with that.

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[mevitar]

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MasterHaosis wrote:

Also why is so important parasite to be immune to sonic? Sonic weapons are rarely used as far I can see.

It's Sonic=yes on the warhead, not IsSonic=yes on the weapon, that removes the parasite. And what you're suggesting is already possible, except that the parasite doesn't die, but is kicked out.

For killing parasites, we have SuppressionThreshold, which makes parasites more/less resistant to damage while they're inside a unit.
And while i didn't test it, i think it might also affect how much repairing is needed to remove the parasite.

[Starkku]

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mevitar wrote:

And while i didn't test it, i think it might also affect how much repairing is needed to remove the parasite.

Probably not. Pretty sure that even a single hitpoint repaired destroys the parasite inside.

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[AlexB]

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Attacking with Sonic warheads always ejects the parasite, "attacking" with a repair warhead (any damage < 0) always destroys the parasite.

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