Major issues with the Superweapon cursor and Type=

[Parasite03]

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Hello guys. Recently I was reading the Ares documentation about Action=SellUnit and Action=TogglePower so I decided to implement the in my mod. But now I have a problem. If I my Type= isn't equal to any of existing types that doesn't do what I want it shows me "No Cursor" cursor for the Toggle Power and "small dollar"image for normal Sell Unit cursor, and "Cant's sell" cursor for the "Fog of war" terrain even if I set the cursors manually. Also it ignores these flags that are in the code too:

Code:

SW.RequiresTarget=buildings
SW.AffectHouse=owner
SW.AITargeting=None
SW.FireIntoShroud=no

But if I add any existing type to the super weapon and make it do nothing(e.g. Psychic reveal with 0 range, also this type gives me the crate with money sound) it responds to the every tag I set but It doesn't use the Action=TogglePower or Action=SellUnit

Is there any way to make this work?

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[Graion Dilach]

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SellUnit and TogglePower are not real superweapons but plain actions enabled through SW buttons.

How they'll function is atm hardcoded and this is enough hacky solution already. It's like if you would use attackmove as an SW, you pick some of your units fire an SW when they're selected and thereby order the units to attackmove to the targeted area.

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[Parasite03]

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Graion Dilach wrote:

SellUnit and TogglePower are not real superweapons but plain actions enabled through SW buttons.

I know that they are just actions. I just need to know which Type= should I select to get them reading the flags which I set up. Because anyone of the known by me flags from the Ares Documentation just ignores the Action=

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Code:

Type=TogglePower
Action=TogglePower

Nothing else is needed. Although i don't think Type=TogglePower is even valid, it works, so SW type most likely doesn't matter.
SellUnit will probably work the same.

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mevitar wrote:

Code:

Type=TogglePower
Action=TogglePower

Nothing else is needed. Although i don't think Type=TogglePower is even valid, it works, so SW type most likely doesn't matter.
SellUnit will probably work the same.

No. Is does the same thing as the wasn't Type= at all. I still see the predefined cursors.

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As Graion wrote, you can't change that. Their behavior is hard-coded.

Type does NOT affect the cursor you have. You can't have custom cursors when you want to use a hardcoded Action= behavior, like TogglePower or SellUnit, because it is tied to the cursor. If you manage to change the cursor, Action=TogglePower or SellUnit won't work.

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Could not the frame references to mouse.sha be changed by Ares though? That way if it referenced the power cursor, you could just change it in mouse.sha if you wanted a different look. I wouldn't think that would break it.

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[Krow]

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Post a request on the tracker then. Alex could probably do it for 0.4 if it just needs a tiny piece of code.

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[Lin Kuei Ominae]

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Graion Dilach wrote:

SellUnit and TogglePower are not real superweapons but plain actions enabled through SW buttons.

How they'll function is atm hardcoded and this is enough hacky solution already. It's like if you would use attackmove as an SW, you pick some of your units fire an SW when they're selected and thereby order the units to attackmove to the targeted area.

@GD: maybe a crazy impossible idea and a bit offtopic, but how about expanding Ares and allowing more commands like: hunt, sleep, retreat, sticky, harvest ... ?
Basically enhancing the possible keyboard shortcuts or interface buttons.

I think it would be useful if you could simply press "h" (*) for giving your harvesters a "harvest" order, after which they automatically search the next field and go harvesting.

(*) or another button that isn't already used

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[Krow]

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You can already do that IIRC, by pressing G for guard mode. You need to play YR more LKO.

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I converted the toggle power feature into a keyboard command (not the adv. command bar) long ago, but it's not available atm. It it requires a few other changes (lying around since '11 or even '10). Maybe some day i got to include it. For 0.4 I'll concentrate on bugfixes.

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[Lin Kuei Ominae]

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Krow wrote:

You can already do that IIRC, by pressing G for guard mode. You need to play YR more LKO.

i'm not talking about the default keyboard shortcuts which already work ever since tiberian dawn.
Those i wrote are the special unit commands which can't be given/accessed by the player and only used on maps and triggers. (see rules.ini for [Guard] [Sticky] etc and the other available unit commands/actions)

The [Hunt] command for example, makes a unit automatically move randomly accross the map, searching for enemy units. The AI and units placed on maps can use that command perfectly fine, but the player has no access to that command.
Especially in the end of a match with the opponent having only a few well hidden units, this would be useful to give your entire army, so they all swarm out and go on a search&destroy mission.
Also at the start of a match, it would be very useful for automatic scouting, by giving this to 20 cheap minigunner.

[Retreat] would be another very useful command, as this makes a unit automatically return to your base while avoiding threats. If accessible via the keyboard, you would just have to select the damaged units and press a button, instead of now scrolling to your base and giving them a move command.
I'm not sure, but i think this also makes a unit enter a free repair bay automatically too.

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Retreat is rarely used. If there really is a need, press h and click move. I'm a veteran player in multiplayer ra2/yr.

Though normally good players only attack when they know they can actually do something, they also know there's no going back from it.