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Has anyone an old TT beta?
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Stygs
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:16 pm    Post subject:  Has anyone an old TT beta? Reply with quote

Hi there,

after finding the old Tiberian Twilight closed beta files on my external HD, I was wondering if anyone else here has one of the early TT builds.

Why? Because there is a lot of cut/unfinished stuff in TT and theres propably a lot more that was removed during the early beta stages, hence I like to find an early version.

So far we have the files for

Beta 8 (released November  2009)

Beta 11 (released January 2010, pretty late, so I doubt there is anything new in there)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, but I only have one version from 17/02/2010 here that I couldn't identify which Beta version is that.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh shit eh? What kind of content was cut?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worm man. :p

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there is another EVA as well.

Had someone try to fish one for em
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Stygs
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Banshee wrote:
Sorry, but I only have one version from 17/02/2010 here that I couldn't identify which Beta version is that.


Probably Beta 14, I think that was the last one.

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Oh shit eh? What kind of content was cut?


Based on Beta8, I found lefovers (names, Icons) for these untis:

-a couple of Scrin Units for the Singleplayer
-a couple of TS legacy units (Orca Bomber, Disc Thrower), they seem to be from CnC Arena era (the KW Titan and Wolverine were also intented for Arena/TT, so I guess Arena was goint to have a lot of TS content)
-a couple of air/ground units that have no text desciption left (no idea what they could do) like a GDI Scout on a hoverbike, a wheelend Nod tank, couple of GDI aircraft and so on....
-the Conquer vehicles from the early beta (trucks that were used to capture neutral structures)
-old designs for the GDI Armadillo APC and Nod Vertigo (looks a lot more like an development of the TW design).
-some hints to GDI and Nod  "Mega units" that might have been be some kind of epic unit (or maybe early KW designs as KW seemed to share some stuff with Arena)
-the naming conventions also indicates that a lot of early GDI/Nod infantry units were removed. The GDI ones seem to be based on a heavier version of the TW GDI soldier while the Nod ones use the TW/KW models. It is either a leftover from CnC Arena or at least one of the subfactions was going to use normal human soldiers instead of Zone Trooper/Cyborgs.
-some early infantry units mention squads, so I guess that was planned early on.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beta5.

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Stygs
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

:O

Any chance you could upload the files somewhere?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps but would be slow to upload, the installer is nearly 900mb or so. What do I get from doing this favor? #Tongue

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Stygs
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think I can over anything other than my gratitude right now Sad


And maybe assets from my CnC3 mod #Tongue
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it allowed to share these on PPM? I'm interested in the sound assets (if they happen to be different).
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Considering that these betas no longer work, I don't see a problem on sharing these files as long as they are uploaded in another server, due to the traffic that they will generate.

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Stygs
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, to be honest, they are kinda working.

Beta8 still has working matchmaking and I think it might even work with ealier one like Beta5. However, since they are MP betas and there is no lobby and no AI in these early versions, you need another player to hit the PLAY button at the same time as you (not sure if the early Beta even works 1vs1 or if you really need a 5vs5 to start).

However, I got Beta5 recently (I think Beta4 was the first one released after the CommandCom2009) and while it gives some better unterstanding of the ideas for CnC Arena and hints at a lot of cut units, there isnt much left thats usefull for modders (aside the early Nod Flametank design).
EA kept the SP out of the MP beta, so I doubt we will ever know anything about their early story plans.

Still, who knows what secrets they accidently left in Beta4, long before any modding tools were able to read the files... Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would not mind taking a look in there as well.. but atlast
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