That's now how bricks work. You can't just slap a brick texture on the top parts since it doesn't fit with the sides. _________________ mentalomega.com QUICK_EDIT
The model looks good but it could be doing with some finer details as shown in the concept art.
And primarly the brick texture doesnt look right, i think it needs a new texture completely to match the brick shape/size in the concept and also and probably most importantly the bricks need to match up so it doesnt look like its a texture pasted on
Does TW support normal/bump maps ? As this could like nice if subtly done on the masonry _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Bricks:
The Bricks are sharing the same texture space, there is no alternate brick layout that I can draw on in the texture. Texture resolution is a factor, I have to decide on how much space the bricks will get on the texture vs the metal. One of the benefits of bricks is that they are repetitive, so generally speaking people are more ready to except a certain amount of repetition in brickwork.
So typically I have less variety of bricks in my textures, which in turn means that they can be larger on the texture, which means that they have more resolution, which helps with normal maps has well.
(One thing needs to be clear, this is not generic Max render texturing or 'old school' renegade texturing, were you have a large number of textures and size does not matter, and if you forget something, you simply add an additional texture).
I have made the mistake with the top of brick structures before. I believe the simplest solution is to not have the top show brickwork. Any ideas has to what? Concrete top maybe, or metal (in which case I could try and reuse some the existing texture space).
SMIFFGIG:
What finer details? I see black rectangular patches on the brickwork, I have no idea what the hell they are supposed to be. Any ideas of details you see that I could add would be appreciated (and also if you have any ideas of how to top the bricks, without using bricks).
I am not sure about your assertion that changing the style or shape of the bricks will make a large difference.
There are 2 issues that I see from a design perspective:
1. the brick structure makes no sense whatsoever, it clearly does not seem to serve any purpose, at best it seem like abstract art. So straight away a persons mind is thinking something is not right, and then has with any relatively low resolution texture work, if you start looking for errors, you will start to find errors.
2. The shape of the (largely nonsensical) brickwork, lots of diagonals with an (at the moment) brick top, means that getting things lined up is extremely difficult. Again giving time people will start to notice errors. After all, it is actually just a texture of bricks...
Your note on normal maps is interesting. The bricks have a normal map, but it is too subtle.
This being an RTS, the effect must be greatly exaggerated in order for it to be noticed, especially from the standard RTS camera distance.
If you can point to brickwork that you think will be better then I can give it a go: http://www.cgtextures.com/
So any practical, workable tips will be appreciated.
Joined: 22 Nov 2010 Location: Iszkaszentgyorgy, Hungary
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:28 pm Post subject:
I dunno which is the exact texture, but I think you shoulda shrink (as in if you have cropped a 400x400 there, crop an 500x500 and resize that...) bricks are too big.
Also, why does the orb takes that much space? Or is it needed for the anims? _________________ "If you didn't get angry and mad and frustrated, that means you don't care about the end result, and are doing something wrong." - Greg Kroah-Hartman
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Graion Dilach:
Interesting, so you are suggesting that the brick size should be smaller?
Generally speaking in RA2 Westwood used oversized brickwork, I tend to copy that (earlier Tesla reactor:http://www.ppmsite.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29885 ).
Has for the Orb, the more space I give it, the clearer the reflections are on the reflection map. It probably does not need that much space.
It will be one of the main features of the finished model, because it will have the same pulsing glow has the RA2 version (which will draw a lot of attention to it).
Also obviously, the arms will constantly rotate, which will be the other main feature. QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 22 Nov 2010 Location: Iszkaszentgyorgy, Hungary
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:29 pm Post subject:
I see, ok then I have no question. I asked it since that could be halved an then you would have had place to put the top brick portions, but forget it then. Concept had correct brick size as far as I can see tho. _________________ "If you didn't get angry and mad and frustrated, that means you don't care about the end result, and are doing something wrong." - Greg Kroah-Hartman
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