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Nolt
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Joined: 25 Apr 2012
Location: Chile

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 5:05 pm    Post subject:  Shattered Paradise
Subject description: An expansion for Tiberian Sun made on OpenRA
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Opening Note: This mod uses Tiberian Sun Assets, most of the new assets you can see are made by me, but I am using public assets aswell. I would like to avoid listing all of them here to keep the presentation clean. I will show the credits on release obviously, but if they're necessary on this post just let me know and I'll list them once I am able.


Shattered Paradise



Shattered Paradise is a mod that I have been working on for the past 10 months. It's goal is to rework Tiberian Sun, adding a few factions that I always thought should have been in the game, while also reworking the original factions to maintain balance. One of the main ideas is to keep the unit types as low as possible, and even now I think they have too much.

The story of the mod starts off with NOD ending of TS being canon. GDI suffered a great blow from NOD with the destruction of the Philadelphia Space Station and failing to stop Kane's World Altering Missile.  The detonation of it has completely changed the landscape of the planet, creating new types of Tiberium mutations never seen before.

The Brotherhood, victorious over their nemesis, celebrates this moment and begins to make large gains in former GDI territories. GDI, once a global powerhouse, now finds itself on the brink of extinction, fighting a losing battle against both Tiberium and Nod for the past 5 years. However, recent signals from former GDI bases suggests that not all is at it seems within the Brotherhood...

CABAL did not betray the Brotherhood, and is still loyal to them, connecting him to former EVA networks they have captured to acquire their intelligence. Unknown to them, he quietly begins to make plans of his own.

The mutants, once known as the Forgotten, now live in a world that is finally suited for them. With this, they become much more powerful than before and begin to compete against Nod forces.

And far away, in deep space,  recent changes on earth's atmosphere have awakened a race that should have been left sleeping for a long time…

The Brotherhood are to find that this new world they created may not last that long, for soon it shall become a Shattered Paradise...


The Factions


GDI maintains it's typical frontal assault gameplay style, with slow units that deal good damage and have good armour. Most of the rework here is with the infantry, where their Jumpjet soldier replaces the Disk Thrower as an anti armour unit, and the new Grenadier has been added for tier 2 on a fire support role. The Ghost Stalker has left GDI which forced them to develop their own Power Armor for infantry. The Limpet Drone has been decommissioned alongside the EMP Tank, and the new Guardian Platform has been developed to help defend from aerial threats.

NOD keeps its hit and run style of gameplay with a few upgrades, their light infantry now fires bursts of flame that take time to fill back (for safety procedures), their Rocket Trooper has been replaced with a burst-fire version called the Crusader and the cyborgs they lost are replaced with their long forgotten Templars.The Black Hand has returned as their sniper units. For their vehicles, their artillery has been replaced with a Beam Cannon, Stealth Tanks now fire bursts of rockets, and these tanks along with the Rocket Cycle can now engage air units.

I decided to build the Forgotten differently than most modders. Modders always see them as a poor faction that has to scavenge the wasteland to survive, but I see them differently. They are the only people who are immune to tiberium radiation, who can mine it with their hands if they want to. They don’t have the tech to build disruptors or other fancy units, but at the very least they can build modern weaponry, and since they can skip safety procedures related to tiberium refinement, they are able to build their toys much cheaper than other factions. This will lead to low quality vehicles that may be harmful to mutants and non mutants but well… Ignoring this advantage is just as harmful as not using it.

CABAL, on the other hand, has a more conservative kind of gameplay. Cyborgs on this game are not immune to tiberium but they slowly self heal anywhere.  Their damage is below average, but they got good crowd control. Why do they have crowd control you ask? It’s because their focus is not to eliminate resistance, but to convert it to their side. Some of their units have the capability to turn enemies into non combat cyborgs if these units kill someone, along with a Stasis chamber, which is a building where they can store such cyborgs for repurposing (It’s more or less a grinder that makes sense).

Finally, we have the Scrin. They’re a little similar to their CnC 3 counterparts, bringing lots of mobility and firepower to the battlefield, but lacking health. At later tiers, they have the best airpower in the game, so it’s never a waste to build AA against them.


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TiberFCSL
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wena wn la wea ¡la wea! qlo ._.
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HG_SCIPCION
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Joined: 07 Jun 2013
Location: Perú

PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TiberFCSL wrote:
wena wn la wea ¡la wea! qlo ._.


yeeee, pero que qlio que eres felipe, bueno... a ver..

creo que el color de los scrin estan muy cartonicos Mad, tal vez mas oscuro y mas intenso morado?



pero esta muy completo la verdad B)

buena weon Very Happy
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ApolloTD
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Joined: 19 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The new artwork, especially buildings looks way too grainy/pixely while westwood originals are more clearer texture. Could use some heavy touch-up.

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Nolt
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Joined: 25 Apr 2012
Location: Chile

PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm... I think I can see what you mean... WW textures are  cleaner than mine, I was indeed trying to have the texture make them look more detailed, even tho I only use generated materials and simple textures... It seems CABAL is the one suffering more from grainy texture, I will try to simplify it.
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TiberianCall
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any beta version?

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Bu7loos
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Nolt: Don't try to over texture you stuff and simplify them its a 2D sprite game anyway, if this was a 3D engine then go one ahead.
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Nolt
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just in case anybody is interested, the mod is in a closed beta stage where we are balancing, squashing bugs and playing in general, i got a discord channel set up for that, if anyone wants to join let me know.
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Banshee
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Joined: 15 Aug 2002
Location: Brazil

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you need forums for it here in PPM?

If you are interested on it, PM me the Name and description of the main forum and all subforums you desire.

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Nolt
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh, sure, thanks, I will once we get everything sorted out.
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SchismNavigator
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Joined: 27 Mar 2016

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have a small team on Shattered Paradise. Although 99% of the work up until this point has been all Nolt, and he has done an amazing job! ((Biasedness intensifies))

What we are looking for now though are people who can do some voice acting for us and a new voxel artist if at all possible. There is a lot of work ahead internally for polish as well as something new and special that is going to remain a secret for now.

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DonutArnold
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you using custom palettes for the new sides? I believe that can fix the grainyness if it's caused by limited palette conversion.

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Nolt
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am using custom palettes for each side but they are quite simple, mostly a ts unit palette where i replace either the yellow, orange or both gradient with the main color of the faction or any other color, purple for the scrin and more green for the muts for example.

Tho I still dont understand entirely what do you mean, is it because the CABAL remap texture has black lines on it?
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DonutArnold
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I meant this:


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Nolt
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huh, i did that on purpose, thats a cellular material where the border lines of every cell are black, I thought it would look nice, seems not, easy fix.

Is that what Apollo meant aswell? Nothing else looks wrong with the colors? (Cabal being extremely black for example).
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DonutArnold
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh ok, in that case keep it up. Smile

Btw, what 3d software did you use?

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Nolt
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3dsmax mostly, I wanted to try blender but I felt it was too dependant on hotkeys.

Edit: crap, forgot to fix the remap behind the factory.


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ApolloTD
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nolt wrote:
Huh, i did that on purpose, thats a cellular material where the border lines of every cell are black, I thought it would look nice, seems not, easy fix.

Is that what Apollo meant aswell? Nothing else looks wrong with the colors? (Cabal being extremely black for example).


Yes...if it looks pixelated grainy and not smooth then it's just bad... detail is good to have but not that kind. Reason is either poor texture or texture is too complicated for the palette used/made so it pixelates.

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Nolt
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it's only the remap then? I guess the faction color affects a lot too, because normally I didn't even noticed it.


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ApolloTD
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should have clarified that remap is the worst case and then the generic dark greyscale is also needing improvement thus whole thing.

Good/decent parts of the factory is the front door and the bib but the back with pipes is pixelated ugly.

Make them all more like that one building I cropped, it isn't so badly pixelated texture wise.


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Nolt
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm, the irony, the first building I tried to rework back then was that one, I stopped entirely because I didnt like the result.

And yeah, thanks for clarifying, I had no idea if you mean muts or scrin, which seemed fine to me.
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