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Damfoos
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:02 pm    Post subject:  Interface improvements
Subject description: quality of life changes and more
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A few things I was thinking about, with pictures that got uploaded in a wrong order #Tongue

1. More hotkeys. Ideally - a way to remap hotkeys to suit your needs. For now I really want to see hotkeys for zoom (Ctrl + and Ctrl -), scroll (horizontal scroll bar doesn't display for me in fullscreen mode btw) and view modes (full, cross section or depth). It would be even better if zoom didn't reset your view point to the center of the voxel each time btw. A hotkey to select next/previous color in the palette would really help with drawing textures, something like Ctrl + Mouse Scroll Up/Down, but I guess there's no such feature to assign a hotkey to. Would be nice to have one, it's easier than use a combo of darken/lighten and then eyedropper to pick the next closest shade without distracting to click on the palette.

2. Customizable colors or graphics for "selected color" marker (they can't be seen on some colors) and unique markers for currently selected color and used colors (only one kind of markers is shown at a time, so if you have "show all used colors" enabled, you don't see where is the color that is currently selected). Maybe something like on the picture 3: selected color and used colors are marked by different markers, and when one of the used colors is selected, they overlap and create an unique marker.

3. Customizable color for grid that is shown in "emphasise depth" view mode. Red color doesn't go well with housecolor and 200-203 unitem colors, being able to pick a custom RGB color for it would solve any contrast problem. It'd be especially nice to have a hotkey for this as well.

4. In "replace color" window, move the color preview (color that your mouse is on currently) closer the selected color preview, like it's shown on the Picture 2. So it'd be easier to compare the colors and pick the right replacement.

5. This one has been already requested I guess, but if you ever have opportunity for it, consider adding a possibility to select a number of voxels to create some sort of a "chunk" you can move, copy, paste or delete, sort of like you can do with tiles in FA2. Let there be a special tool that allows to "mark" voxels, and have a separate set of edit commands for these voxels (copy marked, paste marked, nudge marked, mirror marked). So it'd be possible to copy entire parts of the model: stuff like wheels, guns, lights, and so on without exporting layers into some image editor one by one then editing and adding them back.

How I see it working:

Step 1: Using a special tool you mark voxels to form a selection (Picture 1). The tool has an option to add or remove voxels from the selection and supports different brush sizes, also has an "unselect all" option. Marked (selected) voxels are visually different. The status of being or not being selected is not saved with the .vxl file.

Step 2: Using a special set of editing commands you copy or move (or delete) the selection, then position it as you need. Copied voxels do not replace the ones they are put over until a confirmation (Enter) key is pressed (step 3). Basically the clone is contained in a buffer until it's finally placed, so it doesn't consider each move a final one and thus doesn't automatically replace every voxel along its path as you move it, like it happens with SHP builer selection tool. Cloned voxels also look different, and they are always displayed over the voxels that actually exist (so it's like you move a layer). However if you press ctrl+c to copy a layer of the voxel, only the existing voxels will be copied, not the cloned ones (cloned voxels are only considered "real" after they are placed). The cloned selection is not saved with the .vxl file until it's placed (step 3)

Step 3: Place the copied voxels by pressing a confirmation key (Enter). After that the copied voxels replace the voxels which position they were occupying.


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Banshee
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are valid ideas and most of them shouldn't be hard to implement. I'll see what I can do about it in the next month.

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G-E
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Joined: 09 Feb 2015

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we're making UI suggestions, I think half the reason you have trouble with the palette selectors is that the entire palette box is too short. With modern monitors even 720P there's no reason each colour can't be 30% taller, the entire sidebar is largely empty. Larger = easier to see. If the sidebar seems too tall with such a change, then I would recommend moving the section dropdown to the toolbar at the top too freeing up at least 40 pixels of height.

Also, since normals mode uses a rainbow of colours, some of which are really close to the background blue, the obvious solution there is to use a dark gray background.

See photo mockup.


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Damfoos
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think having a customizable BG color would be the most universal solution tbh. And I disagree with the palette suggestion, atm I don't see the bottom lines of the palette at all on my 1024x600 laptop screen, with any changes like this I won't even see a half of the palette. Either the toolbars have to be detachable or the whole left GUI section needs to be scrollable (that would be easier I guess) before such things can be done.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be easy enough with a new "wide" interface option. Perhaps wide could split up the groupings to be more side by side on the sidebar (which would be wider too) whereas normal would do what I suggested ?
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snmiglight
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This might be trivial, but I guess applying highlight/color on numbers on the current editing view could be a bit helpful (or maybe put it on bold?)


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