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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 5:35 pm    Post subject:  Speulations & Theorys 4 yall Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Think About these....are they true? what do you think will happen?

It is believed that the machines are waging some kind of holy war against the humans.

the machines are getting thier technology from an ancient alien race

the machines will win the war

the humans will decimate the machines

Dark Start, what is it? will it happen to earth?

EMP's dont break all machines

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

machines will never triumph against humans! long live the resistance!!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

robots lead by AI dont have religion and as such dont wage holy wars. unless they are core programmed to default to religion.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Dogma can be used to gain the same effect amongst humans.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

a Machine still cant comprehend,it cannot think,it cant learn. unless it was programmed to use propaganda,but what would it be propagating to?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

they could be broadcasting subliminal messages and capturing humans to make cyborgs that are immune to EMP
mabey?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

a machine will always find the most logical answer to a problem even if it seems insane to a human (as such robots can win a war against other equaly logical robots) a being powerful enough to create everything would be insanity to a manchine as it must have been created by something else. if machines decided humans need to be removed it would be for a distinct reason, and probably wouldnt want to destroy humanity as as long as it wasnt tyring to fight them or in any way hindered their progress it wouldnt be a problem

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

WP wrote:
they could be broadcasting subliminal messages and capturing humans to make cyborgs that are immune to EMP
mabey?



hmmm...i like this *evil grin*

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ackron the mighty wrote:
a machine will always find the most logical answer to a problem even if it seems insane to a human (as such robots can win a war against other equaly logical robots) a being powerful enough to create everything would be insanity to a manchine as it must have been created by something else. if machines decided humans need to be removed it would be for a distinct reason, and probably wouldnt want to destroy humanity as as long as it wasnt tyring to fight them or in any way hindered their progress it wouldnt be a problem



yes very true, the machines think/ belive that god has given them a mission, to exterminate the choatic self destructive ways of man. the machines think of them selfs as "the purest of all drops from the dirtiest of all waters" and "the chosen ones". the machines are very complexly built with trillions of programs running all at the same time. juts think of how thier CPU deals with all this information. the insane part is really of how utterly complex they
are.

what do yall think this "Dark Start" thing is? id tell but i want to know what you think first.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

why would they think that? they would have to be programmed by a ilogical being to do that

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well, it seems illogical to waste large amount of resources on fighting a holy war just because of "religion",... Although religion is just that....a blind conquest of souls.

It seems theres is a more "mysterious surprise" to all of this?

robots dont need complexity, they work better as simple tools, made with an intended purpose between the generalized and specialized spectrum of mechanical existance.

Why are the most basic robots given "freewill" since its a theocracy, doesnt  just that go against their basic fundamentals of command and control, ridged chruch-rank and caste rule?

hum..

Well it gets the good ole' grey matter sparking.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ackron the mighty wrote:
why would they think that? they would have to be programmed by a ilogical being to do that


in my opinion as a democratic person communism is evil and an illogical way of government...so keep reading


exactly! during the world wide fall to communism theses machines were built used but then stowed away in a secret bunker for certian resons. The machines the communists had created were "to human" and were capable of doing things millions of times better than humans could ever do. For this reason is why they were but away because the technicans, engineers, and scientists that built them knew what these machines could do to humanity if given the chance. Then, after the fall of communism the Democratic states of man have found these machines and decided to put them to work on rebuilding the world. in good time that was completed but still much technology was lost. the machines were thanked by the leaders of man and given thier own land to start a country ruled by machines(VERY BAD IDEA). for some time this was good, the machine city&country of 01 was the leading economic country. When the machines asked to be part of the United Nations they were denied cause the machines were "non-human" but simply stated the Secretary of Defense "The machines are juast one of thousands of our creations, and could be a threat if not looked upon with grave concern."; right he was, but in a very different way. "For there will be a time when machine is to offer tidings of everlasting peace but the humans will deny" -machine holy book B166er:1:17- " "That will be the sign of the time to start your holy mission...and the earth will be of machine and not man"
-machine holy book B166er:1:18-. so i bet you all can guess what happens from there.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

this story can be made logical if the universe its set in contains narativum. does it?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ackron the mighty wrote:
this story can be made logical if the universe its set in contains narativum. does it?


in a certin way, yes it does.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

would that be in a literal but non magical sense? so narative is enforced but not on a manipulatable level?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ackron the mighty wrote:
would that be in a literal but non magical sense? so narative is enforced but not on a manipulatable level?


yes, it is very literal it could be called magic if you think god is magic or if you even believ in him, but that comes later in this story...you all might think im crazy cause i want to do a trilogy type thing and in the third one, thats when crazy stuff happens. so yes, narative is enforced but not on a manipulatable level for now. later in the series (if i go that far) it will be at a manipulatable level. lets just say the machines find something special, somewhere special and its really bad and, i can say no more cause its...out there and you'll have to know the end of the second one to get how and why this thing came about.


for those of you that still have questions about the machine go HERE, and take a look around(emotional machines) this is where i got my idea for the machines, so i credit these people for putting this out on the web.

and if the url dont work go here  
http://ai-depot.com/

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

"For there shall come a time when machine will rise up against man, nad they shall slay him with the mighty power of the devine beyond."

             - B1:1:7 Machine Tome -

The Machine Tome is the machine holy book. It outlines the future for the machines and what their "sacred" mission is and how they must complete it.

The Librarian of the Ark is like the keeper of the creeps. when the Ark is opened all these things are let loose on whatever is left of humanity like buildings, people, cars, money, computers, basically anytihng man made they destroy it in anyway possible. these being machines have somewhat creative ways of killing.

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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

::::::Athena::::::

Athena is a female AI construct. she is an ambassador and a general. there have been 3 attempts to hack into her mainframe but none were sucessful. She was the one who declared the holy war on humanity, the start of the human salvation or so she called it. sure she is somewhat beautiful for AI, but dont let looks decive her programming. the reason why she was given a gender was because the likeness of man is more willing to listen to the female voice and also for visual presentation.   

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