Also Known As: evanb90 Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Location: o kawaii koto
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:41 pm Post subject:
Siege at Midgard [YR]
Yes, this is the proper place to post this- as it is an incomplete map.
It is a 2 on 1 map where I have implemented some special coding to allow for a unique build set for each player, depending on where you start out.
Now that I done with the boring stuff, now for the info on the map.
Basic Info:
Name: Siege at Midgard (3)
Minimum Players(I recommend this for fairness): 3
Design Info:
Theater: Snow
General Geography: Relatively flat, some hills.
Primary Geographical Features: Two bridges that connect to the other player, a river that divides the city
Other- Forest to the north
Urban: Yes, Midgard only
Resources: Medium
Time of Day: Night
Lighting: VERY Dark
Gameplay Info:
This area is quite important. Due to the fact this is a Siege map, countless changes have been made to the gameplay to make it so. The defender and besieger can both build only certain units of their faction
Midgard Defenders are forbidden from building the following:
Prism Tanks, Magnetrons, Master Minds, Chrono Legionnaires, Floating Disks, Night Hawk Transports, Kirov Airships, and Siege Choppers
Besiegers are forbidden from building the following:
Grand Cannons, Psychic Towers, and Mirage Tanks
Both sides are forbidden from building the following:
Ore Refinerys, Ore Miners, Power Plants, Nuclear Reactors, Naval Yards, Ore Purifiers, Cloning Vats, Industrial Plants, MCVs, Battle Fortresses, Tank Bunkers, and Battle Bunkers
However, the Midgard Defender gets a set of buildings and units to start the map with, including:
1 Allied Naval Yard(any side can build their own respective units from it, with the exception of non-ground attack units, aerial defense units allowed)
4 Tech Powerplants providing a total of 1000 power. This is all you get for your entire base, so don't be so quick on calling France or Yuri.
4 Oil Derricks, which constitute your funds.
20 GIs that start outside barricaded areas and garrisonable towers.
The Besiegers get a set of buildings and units to claim as their own:
1 offmap Nuclear Reactor
1 Allied Ore Refinery and Chrono Miner.(this is ALL you get in terms of funding)
Unit/Building Changes:
Kirov Airship strength decreased from 2000 to 1750.
Oil Derrick
-Uncapturable
-Also more durable
-Death Weapon 50% weaker.
Tech Power Plant provides 300 power.
-Also uncapturable
-Also more durable
Bridges are indestructable.
Boomer Subs are always emerged(to stop hide and seek victories)
Hedgehogs have 1/3 strength.
Urban Combat weapons have boosted range. (+1)
Things left to do
Add ambience
Notes:
THIS MAP IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH ANY MOD THAT ADDS UNITS.
The battle will end in 45 minutes- this is all the time you get to break open the defender- so dont turtle.
I may have moar to add, so be very afraid(to this post, I will add,)
SiegeAtMidgard.PNG
Description:
Filesize:
6.64 KB
Viewed:
8260 Time(s)
_________________ YR modder/artist, DOOM mapper, aka evanb90
Project Lead Developer, New-Star Strike (2014-)
Former Project Lead DeveloperStar Strike (2005-2012), Z-Mod (2006-2007), RA1.5 (2008-2013), The Cold War (2006-2007) Last edited by EVA-251 on Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:01 am; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
Also Known As: evanb90 Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Location: o kawaii koto
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:59 pm Post subject:
Oh lawdy lawd, my topic gets sum posts? Excuse me while my head explodes.
*mops up mess*
Ok, back.
Err yeah...This map is near finished, I just gotta brighten it up. It is quite the dark map, trust me _________________ YR modder/artist, DOOM mapper, aka evanb90
Project Lead Developer, New-Star Strike (2014-)
Former Project Lead DeveloperStar Strike (2005-2012), Z-Mod (2006-2007), RA1.5 (2008-2013), The Cold War (2006-2007) QUICK_EDIT
I don't know if it's just me (this is just a totally random guess...), but I think people want an In-Game-Pic before they judge the map, because some people don't like downloading things without pics. _________________
Also Known As: evanb90 Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Location: o kawaii koto
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:55 pm Post subject:
Seeing that I did not stir any curiosity with the concept of a map like this, I did not bother to post in-games. Should I get around to uninstalling SS 0.57 from my YR, I might just get some screenshots _________________ YR modder/artist, DOOM mapper, aka evanb90
Project Lead Developer, New-Star Strike (2014-)
Former Project Lead DeveloperStar Strike (2005-2012), Z-Mod (2006-2007), RA1.5 (2008-2013), The Cold War (2006-2007) QUICK_EDIT
I think its a pretty good concept for a map, along the lines of what the siege game mode was supposed to be. Its a shame the game doesn't support enforced alliances (in theory it could be done with triggers, but Player@X limitations prevent it). How does the game end after the time limit BTW? You should make it that the attackers are destroyed and thus the defender wins using something similar to the assault maps destroy side trigger for when the flag is gone. Can you not set the minimum and maximum players for maps in YR? If so, set min and max both to 3 to force correct number before playing. QUICK_EDIT
Also Known As: evanb90 Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Location: o kawaii koto
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:49 pm Post subject:
Quote:
I think its a pretty good concept for a map, along the lines of what the siege game mode was supposed to be. Its a shame the game doesn't support enforced alliances (in theory it could be done with triggers, but Player@X limitations prevent it). How does the game end after the time limit BTW? You should make it that the attackers are destroyed and thus the defender wins using something similar to the assault maps destroy side trigger for when the flag is gone. Can you not set the minimum and maximum players for maps in YR? If so, set min and max both to 3 to force correct number before playing.
Well, from what I know, you cannot set minimum players. Isn't there a "Fixed Alliance" tag in YR though, intended for Team Alliance?(needs to check up on that)
I dont see it being very possible to breakthrough without one person. Ore flow is intentionally slow for the attackers, making it harder to amass units.
When 45 minutes expire, the besiegers just go kaboom. Should somehow, the defenders actually counter-attack(thinking of this, I probably will lower output for the Oil Derricks by 5 again), and destroy the enemy, they win.
Quote:
Bad map, good concept.
In my opinion, there could be, ALOT more deail.. Even though i know its a work in progress...
I'm going to take a wild guess and say there are lots of trees... Am i right?
I want to see some in-games soon.
Yes, this map is somewhat bland- however, the green areas, which are grassy, are forested- the map, if continued, would go off into a rather large forest. I'll be further detailing the urban areas, and I have already added rocks and some other small touchups.
Also, when I started making this map, I realized midway that tis way too small. In the future, I hope to make a much bigger variant that I will make a version for SS and normal YR. The power supply limit of 1000 makes it sorta too easy to put down powered defenses like the Grand Cannon, which cover too much of the important to defend area.
Also, update to the rules of the map-
Aegis Cruisers are limited to 4(to stop from making a purely invincible air defense curtain)
Destroyers do more damage(this, to be honest, does not make much of an impact considering tanks can get in range of the ships)
Carrier cost increased to 3k.
I am on a skool computer, so I lack the ability to check up on the map at the moment.
I will try to get ingames when I return home _________________ YR modder/artist, DOOM mapper, aka evanb90
Project Lead Developer, New-Star Strike (2014-)
Former Project Lead DeveloperStar Strike (2005-2012), Z-Mod (2006-2007), RA1.5 (2008-2013), The Cold War (2006-2007) QUICK_EDIT
Also Known As: evanb90 Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Location: o kawaii koto
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:06 pm Post subject:
The post date on this is an illusion. I really did post this that afternoon.
And, now, upon further looking at it, I have ascertained it is FAR TOO DARK. I will only be showing a few images from the map, as it is FAR TOO DARK.
Next screenshots, the ore fields will have lighting, and the locations around the attacker's bases will be better lit.
First one to say something about the lighting as it is right now needs to read above and pay attention.
SiegeAtMidgard7.PNG
Description:
Filesize:
415.86 KB
Viewed:
7986 Time(s)
SiegeAtMidgard6.PNG
Description:
Filesize:
303.74 KB
Viewed:
7986 Time(s)
SiegeAtMidgard3.PNG
Description:
Filesize:
501.4 KB
Viewed:
7986 Time(s)
SiegeAtMidgard5.PNG
Description:
Filesize:
290.02 KB
Viewed:
7986 Time(s)
_________________ YR modder/artist, DOOM mapper, aka evanb90
Project Lead Developer, New-Star Strike (2014-)
Former Project Lead DeveloperStar Strike (2005-2012), Z-Mod (2006-2007), RA1.5 (2008-2013), The Cold War (2006-2007) QUICK_EDIT
Ambient=0.720000 - 0.620000; nothing worse than a pitch black map..unless your doing a day night loop..
Level=0.018000 ;for cliffs and heights lighting I think. the lower you set it the less your cliff pieces will glow at the joints and edges too I noticed.
Also Known As: evanb90 Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Location: o kawaii koto
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject:
Light emitted from light posts is now brighter, and I have lit the ore fields and around the towers near each edge of the bridge.
Example is here.
SiegeAtMidgard9.PNG
Description:
Filesize:
507.27 KB
Viewed:
7931 Time(s)
_________________ YR modder/artist, DOOM mapper, aka evanb90
Project Lead Developer, New-Star Strike (2014-)
Former Project Lead DeveloperStar Strike (2005-2012), Z-Mod (2006-2007), RA1.5 (2008-2013), The Cold War (2006-2007) QUICK_EDIT
it's still too dark. That's nice to want to make something original and night fight is cool and fits the concept well but don't forget the gameplay. It is painful for the eyes. QUICK_EDIT
Also Known As: evanb90 Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Location: o kawaii koto
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:07 am Post subject:
Update again-
I detailed the areas across the river from the city, and in turn, added lighting. The forests by the 2 other players are somewhat lit, due to the fact these lights are scattered far apart, they may end up looking like people are in the woods, perhaps waiting. Campfire to remedy?
Areas that were very poorly lit in the past(south-east), have received a little more lighting.
A small island has been added around the southern bridge, on it, there is a light and a few extra details.
Additional lights have been added in the areas around the bridge.
However, I reinstalled SS, added the new AI I have been working on, and well, laziness compels to not uninstall it and test this map out again. _________________ YR modder/artist, DOOM mapper, aka evanb90
Project Lead Developer, New-Star Strike (2014-)
Former Project Lead DeveloperStar Strike (2005-2012), Z-Mod (2006-2007), RA1.5 (2008-2013), The Cold War (2006-2007) QUICK_EDIT
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum You cannot attach files in this forum You can download files in this forum
Siege at Midgard [YR]
)
