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TerroR · General **Joined**: 25 Aug 2002 **Location**: UK

I wanted to know what would happed if i gave the air defence weapons the EMP warehead. So i go ahead and find out and nothink happens to the units that is in the air, it just carrys on flying arround like normal. I was hopeing it would shut down and fall to the ground then blow up Confused

So i ask if any1 knows how to get EMP to work on air units?

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The DvD · Posted: Mon May 26, 2003 3:20 pm Post subject:

EMP doesn't work on units that are not on the ground or subterranean. For example, also planes sitting on helipads are not affected by EMP.

FinalMoon · Cyborg Cannon **Joined**: 21 Apr 2003

But yet they're effected by the ion storm...

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The DvD · Posted: Mon May 26, 2003 4:00 pm Post subject:

FinalMoon wrote:

But yet they're effected by the ion storm...

yes but isn't that something completely different? Ion storm ONLY hits air units.

Guest · Posted: Mon May 26, 2003 4:15 pm Post subject:

and hover units ...

SMIFFGIG · Posted: Mon May 26, 2003 9:20 pm Post subject:

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EMP doesn't work on units that are not on the ground or subterranean

Actually in Firestorm they added the cool feature that subterranean units MUST submerge and come to the ground when hit by EMP

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TerroR · General **Joined**: 25 Aug 2002 **Location**: UK

SMIFFGIG wrote:

Quote:

EMP doesn't work on units that are not on the ground or subterranean

Actually in Firestorm they added the cool feature that subterranean units MUST submerge and come to the ground when hit by EMP

Actualy that happens in TS also.

kopaka649 · Posted: Tue May 27, 2003 3:41 am Post subject:

duh

FinalMoon · Cyborg Cannon **Joined**: 21 Apr 2003

"EMP doesn't work on units that are not on the ground or subterranean"

That could be interpreted 2 different ways. EMP doesn't work on any units that aren't on the ground (as in, flying units) or units that are subterranean. (this wouldn't be true.

EMP doesn't work on any units that aren't either on the ground or subterranean.

THIS is the true interpretation.

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Mike · Posted: Tue May 27, 2003 7:12 pm Post subject:

dvd ion storms also hits mm2's and more high tech units

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FinalMoon · Cyborg Cannon **Joined**: 21 Apr 2003

Turalyon wrote:

dvd ion storms also hits mm2's and more high tech units

How so?

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Guest · Posted: Tue May 27, 2003 7:51 pm Post subject:

are you sure ? explain please !

Mike · Posted: Tue May 27, 2003 8:35 pm Post subject:

for example if i recall hover units cant move in ionstorms, but i am sure railguns dont shoot during ion storms

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TerroR · General **Joined**: 25 Aug 2002 **Location**: UK

they do, why wouldn't they?

Mike · Posted: Tue May 27, 2003 8:38 pm Post subject:

what do you mean the railgun part? or the hovers?

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The DvD · Posted: Tue May 27, 2003 9:10 pm Post subject:

Any weapon works fine during Ion Storms... Even the weapons of disabled units like Hover MLRS. I have no idea how you could come to think of this? Confused

hellfire · Commander **Joined**: 09 Jan 2003 **Location**: Canada

Obviously some weapons dont shoot in the storm since they hav a tag that disables the weapon during a storm

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TerroR · General **Joined**: 25 Aug 2002 **Location**: UK

hellfire wrote:

Obviously some weapons dont shoot in the storm since they hav a tag that disables the weapon during a storm

name a weapon that doesn't work dureing iorn storms...

FinalMoon · Cyborg Cannon **Joined**: 21 Apr 2003

Just to clear your heads of all this jibberish and nonsense, these people are mistaken. All weapons work during ion storms. The only things that dont work during ion storms are flying units, hovering units, and radar. Even subterranean units work fine in an ion storm. All superweapons fire correctly during ion storms as well.

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT before you go proclaiming them on these boards!

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TerroR · General **Joined**: 25 Aug 2002 **Location**: UK

No need to get all bossy FM

hellfire · Commander **Joined**: 09 Jan 2003 **Location**: Canada

I was pretty sure that some energy weps went out. Maybe I dreamed it up or somethin but who knows I just figured that some went out because they had the Tag (but that doesn't say much cause WW has done some wierd stuff with there games.)

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FinalMoon · Cyborg Cannon **Joined**: 21 Apr 2003

Sorry for lashing out, I was in a bad mood.

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TerroR · General **Joined**: 25 Aug 2002 **Location**: UK

So is it possible to have a plane be shot by the SAM site missiles then have it fall to the ground as if it got hit by the firewall?

FireStorm · Stealth Laser Trooper **Joined**: 30 Dec 2002

Eh i thought all planes in TS do that, got shot, died, tumble to the ground... Confused

TerroR · General **Joined**: 25 Aug 2002 **Location**: UK

No, When there hit by firstorm it's dfferent, test it if u don't beleve me.

Mike · Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 1:40 pm Post subject:

Come on try it out make a map with infinite firestorm and build a mm2 *sigh* and post a screenie if it does fire

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The DvD · Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 2:33 pm Post subject:

Turalyon wrote:

Come on try it out make a map with infinite firestorm and build a mm2 *sigh* and post a screenie if it does fire

You mean infinite ion storm??? we don't need to make a map like that... just run a map like Storms or Stormy Valley or Casey's Canyon on original TS... and you shall see the MMKII's weapon works perfectly

FinalMoon · Cyborg Cannon **Joined**: 21 Apr 2003

Turalyon wrote:

Come on try it out make a map with infinite firestorm and build a mm2 *sigh* and post a screenie if it does fire

Turalyon, surely you don't think that you know more about TS than all of us combined. Take a little dose of humility, it will last you a long way. Whether you're sure or not that this happens, don't be proclaiming it from the mountaintops. If you are right, we'll all bown down to you and embrace you as the new modding master. But I don't think you are... sorry.

And why should we waste our time taking a screenshot? You want to prove it, you go take the screenie. We have more important things to do.

Btw, I'm not lashing out again. That was all typed very calmly.

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TerroR · General **Joined**: 25 Aug 2002 **Location**: UK

I'd love to prove it if my TS would work

Mike · Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 4:20 pm Post subject:

uhm your ts works

see the uppest post:
guess you can't take it that you are wrong

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TerroR · General **Joined**: 25 Aug 2002 **Location**: UK

Turalyon wrote:

uhm your ts works

NOT IT DOESN'T Mad

TerroR · General **Joined**: 25 Aug 2002 **Location**: UK

Ok heres a Screenshot i just took in a storm, and to prove it's in a storm look at the Hover Tank, it's pinned to the ground but it can still shoot.

(btw i got ts working)

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Mike · Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 8:22 pm Post subject:

thats what i meant you mor*** and the mammy cant shoot ok that was wrong i guess it was unable to shoot in a diffrent version or i had to have a nightmare Wink

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TerroR · General **Joined**: 25 Aug 2002 **Location**: UK

Turalyon wrote:

thats what i meant you mor*** and the mammy cant shoot ok that was wrong i guess it was unable to shoot in a diffrent version or i had to have a nightmare Wink

excuses, excuses Laughing

an watch who your callign a mor*** Exclamation

FireStorm · Stealth Laser Trooper **Joined**: 30 Dec 2002

TerroR wrote:

No, When there hit by firstorm it's dfferent, test it if u don't beleve me.

right, forgive me but i'm getting confused, hit by an Ion Storm or Firestorm Defense?

What different stuff? i mean just explain in words Smile

TerroR · General **Joined**: 25 Aug 2002 **Location**: UK

Hit by ion storm + firestorm is the same, but when hit by a SAM site misile it dies differently.

TerroR · General **Joined**: 25 Aug 2002 **Location**: UK

Actualy you can stop weapons from fireing during ion storms by adding

IonSensitive = Shuts down during an ion storm (def=no)?

To the Weapon Statistics.

Mike · Posted: Thu May 29, 2003 11:08 am Post subject:

sorry for calling you a mor*** terror but i swore that the rail gun didn't work in ion storms

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TerroR · General **Joined**: 25 Aug 2002 **Location**: UK

Turalyon wrote:

sorry for calling you a mor*** terror but i swore that the rail gun didn't work in ion storms

np, it must of not worked in a different version.

Mike · Posted: Thu May 29, 2003 2:37 pm Post subject:

thank you for accepting my apoligy

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The DvD · Posted: Thu May 29, 2003 7:56 pm Post subject:

TerroR wrote:

Actualy you can stop weapons from fireing during ion storms by adding

IonSensitive = Shuts down during an ion storm (def=no)?

To the Weapon Statistics.

This opens up some new possibilities... forexample long range MLRS weapons should, from a realistic point of view, not be able to fire because the missile's guidance system get's confused because of the electric/ion interference...

Mike · Posted: Thu May 29, 2003 8:09 pm Post subject:

how? u cant disable 2nd wep when the 1st is online
and if u let them both online i think it will shoot 4 missile if it is close enough

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The DvD · Posted: Thu May 29, 2003 8:17 pm Post subject:

Turalyon wrote:

how? u cant disable 2nd wep when the 1st is online
and if u let them both online i think it will shoot 4 missile if it is close enough

I have no idea what you mean...

But i was just talking about missiles in general... I mean imagine a Patriot missile Defense system... it's missiles should be negatively influenced by bad wether, right? And the Ion Storm is the ULTIMATE form of bad wether Twisted Evil

Mike · Posted: Thu May 29, 2003 8:23 pm Post subject:

well i was going to fast, how do you plan to do it?

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FinalMoon · Cyborg Cannon **Joined**: 21 Apr 2003

Actually, and I'm not saying there's any possibility that the railgun shuts down in an ion storm, but... that picture COULD be of the ghost stalker shooting the HMECH... o_O

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FireStorm · Stealth Laser Trooper **Joined**: 30 Dec 2002

hmm.. TerroR i think you had a nitemare or something abt planes died differently when hit my FS/Ion Storm than regular SAMs #Tongue

...weird they just tumble...

SMIFFGIG · Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 2:02 am Post subject:

Originally posted by Terror

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Hit by ion storm + firestorm is the same, but when hit by a SAM site misile it dies differently

This is wrong
All aircraft tumble to the ground when shot down (could be partly related to parachuting pilot not working)

anyway
If shot down by SAM site there is an explosion and the aircraft tumbles to the ground

If hit by firestorm exact same happens but a small red anim of the firestorm plays and the aircraft tumbles to the ground

Ion storm exact same again (obviously without firestorm anim)

in all in all circumstances aircraft always die in the same way no matter what Wink

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TerroR · General **Joined**: 25 Aug 2002 **Location**: UK

FinalMoon wrote:

Actually, and I'm not saying there's any possibility that the railgun shuts down in an ion storm, but... that picture COULD be of the ghost stalker shooting the HMECH... o_O

Take a look in rules.ini and c if IonSensitive is used in any of the weapons

Mike · Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 8:05 am Post subject:

it isn't used at least not in v 2.03

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One Of A Kind · Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 10:54 am Post subject:

So I guess the next thing to do is to put it in and see if it does effect anything. God forbid it might be one of those tags that WW put in that doesn't actually do anything Rolling Eyes