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daTS
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:10 am    Post subject:  Orca Pad
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Orca Pad



Structure Stats
Strength: Low - Medium
Power: -15
Requires: Radar


Description:
The Orca Pad is the mainstay and backbone of GDI's Air Force. This structure does not need a control tower as all air traffic control is done at the Communications Center. It features an automated beacon system for night landings, and an automated refuel and refit system to quickly get combat units back in the air.

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Sleepwalker
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It's cute #Tongue

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GameMaster0000
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I think it is little lack in detail I should has some control tower on it.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

you may want to lighten the GDI logo up a bit.

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OmegaBolt
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It's way too flat (Yes, I know things land on it...), and I agree that the logo is too dark.

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Titan
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This building is supposed to be built a lot, you may eventually end up with 5 or 15 of these, they don't all need a control tower, the GDI radar is their control tower. And about it being flat, we're not going to make it all bumpy, big craft need to land on this thing.

The Logo brightness argument is valid though, dunno really.

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Crimsonum
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

OmegaBolt wrote:
It's way too flat (Yes, I know things land on it...), and I agree that the logo is too dark.


Too flat? I don't see anything wrong with it.

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blubb
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

it is OK but it needs the little something that makes it look cool tough.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

#Tongue like a wall type constructing way? #Tongue

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Lin Kuei Ominae
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

blubb wrote:
it is OK but it needs the little something that makes it look cool tough.
correct
4 spotlights on the edges pointing in the sky using alphalights could make this outstanding and special Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

well it is just a kidding , but many people needs explain, so i will i meant that building can be built in a row . to lined like a wall

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Maybe toss in a crate or two. #Tongue

Ah, yes. Brighten the logo, too.

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Crimsonum
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Lin Kuei Ominae wrote:
blubb wrote:
it is OK but it needs the little something that makes it look cool tough.
correct
4 spotlights on the edges pointing in the sky using alphalights could make this outstanding and special Wink


And when people tend to build 10+ aircrafts with each one having its own helipad...gosh.

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Lin Kuei Ominae
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

why not. they don't have to be very big. just 2-5 pixel wide at the bottom and about 10 pixel in the air.
They also don't have to be very bright. Just some decent lighting.

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ORCACommander
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

very simple almost plain

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Titan
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm not trying to excuse the blandness of the building, but people, would you really like to see crates and control towers and some this and more pipes and some that, this isn't a warfactory, this is something that's going to be built in rows, so I'll rephrase what I said before:

Intended blandness is relative to the estimated build-frequency of a building.

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Audiopulse
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

if a tower is so badly wanted - how about making a seperate building? A Tower with a base of 2x2 or 3x3, resembling a tower with some kind of spinning dish on its top and som crates around? It could reveal hidden airunits or something like that and enable the helipad-buildingoption. It would be the prequerisite thing to airborne warfare in the match.

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blubb
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i like the idea of alpha lights, probably 1 small light pointing to the sky is enough, however i agree with titan there too.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Titan Mk II wrote:
I'm not trying to excuse the blandness of the building, but people, would you really like to see crates and control towers and some this and more pipes and some that, this isn't a warfactory, this is something that's going to be built in rows, so I'll rephrase what I said before:

Intended blandness is relative to the estimated build-frequency of a building.

id have to disagree, i personally liek to see as much detail as possible, preferrably so much my eyes go *SHREEEEEEE-BANG*

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Lin Kuei Ominae
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Audiopulse wrote:
if a tower is so badly wanted - how about making a seperate building? A Tower with a base of 2x2 or 3x3, resembling a tower with some kind of spinning dish on its top and som crates around? It could reveal hidden airunits or something like that and enable the helipad-buildingoption. It would be the prequerisite thing to airborne warfare in the match.

that's a great idea imo. you could give this an upgrade slot too, for the droppod upgrade or airstrike upgrade abusing the hunterseeker logic.
maybe also add a dummy weapon that uses the klax1 sound, so the player is warned if enemy air units are in range.

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Morpher
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Good idea, this building it exists, it's called the G.D.I radar Smile. It has a spinning dish and enables air warfare just like requested!

... on a side note the radar could be given a weapon to warn the player of incoming air units (infact we already have this weapon, just uncoded, using an E.V.A voice) however, Nod has a weaker airforce whilst G.D.I has a very strong airforce, it makes more sense for Nod to be warned of incoming air strikes.

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Julius Clonkus
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Then the "weapon" will need a really big range, as aircraft is usually pretty fast and the siren sounds when the bombs are already falling.
I think around 1,25 times the range of the old EMP cannon would fit well, as it only gives a sound and as such, doesn't help if the player's not watching his/her base.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Updated.

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OmegaBolt
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The colours look a little washed out. Needs more contrast.

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DonutArnold
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Every GDI building in TO has the same contrast.

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OmegaBolt
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Then rerender them all. #Tongue

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DonutArnold
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Even normal TS buildings has darker contrast.

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OmegaBolt
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Erm darker contrast is a good thing? Means more profound colours, whereas I think this looks too de-saturated.

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Crimsonum
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I agree with Bolt here. The pavement below the helipad needs to stand out from the pad a little more

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Audiopulse
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Im fine with it...

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Darkstorm
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It looks... lifeless... no animation.... no nothing...

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DaFool
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

you couldn't like mirror it and then make each building come with two pads, could you? Or is that only feasible in RA2?...

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Dunno. IIRC, only one aircraft can land per helipad in TS. Maybe some Hyper's uberduber hacking would do the job.

And who's the one making this mod? Fans or the TO staff?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It could totally use a control tower...

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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And who's the one making this mod? Fans or the TO staff?


Oh yeah, I know that feeling...

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Orac wrote:
Alex06 wrote:
It could totally use a control tower...

Way ahead of you!

I meant on the building, so that it actually looks better...Now it just looks boring...

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Alex06 wrote:
I meant on the building, so that it actually looks better...Now it just looks boring...


Titan wrote:
I'm not trying to excuse the blandness of the building, but people, would you really like to see crates and control towers and some this and more pipes and some that, this isn't a warfactory, this is something that's going to be built in rows, so I'll rephrase what I said before:

Intended blandness is relative to the estimated build-frequency of a building.


still waaay ahead of you...

There wont be something like a tower on the helipads. Period. Im sorry but theyd look good on the first pad ... not on the tenth one. Believe me.

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Lt Albrecht
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

how about needing a tower to build pads? a cheap-ish building with a spotlight and siren(for incoming enemy aircraft)? Just for the common sense and coolness...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Radar gets that job, sorry Albrecht.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wth, people are repeating theirselves?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Crimsonum wrote:
Wth, people are repeating theirselves?


just what I thougt. Guess they remember what Ive suggested about the tower back then without realising it.

Radar will get that job tho, as it has been said.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This should at least have one or two blinking lights to show that it just isn't abandoned and lifeless like the TS Civie structures.

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Audiopulse
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It has - 2 lights circle the grey Area.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ah, then I think it should be good enough, you don't want a structure you build alot to be too amazing.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Do I smell sarcasm here?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Looks a bit neutral,needs more style.

Add windows in the bottom,doors,that way it will be more visible that there is something underground.

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