Making a RTS

OmegaBolt · Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:02 pm Post subject:

Hmm what you programming this in? Would be awesome if you used C# then it should be fairly compatible with Xbox360 using XNA... I've had many wishes for a decent console RTS, using the same system as PS1-RA1 did (which worked perfectly IMO), and with new online technologies etc.

inzane krazy · General **Joined**: 07 Nov 2006 **Location**: Sketchpad

As Tore said before, there is no excuse for anyone not to have TD and RA1 Very Happy

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DeathRay2K · Commander **Joined**: 01 Sep 2002 **Location**: Canada

I have the actual isos on my site if you'd like:
C&C
RA
I also have many of the TD graphics converted to PNG, but I don't have those online. If you like I can probably put those up too.

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0warfighter0 · Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:20 pm Post subject:

I'd actually like to have a new RTS in the style TD/RA where. Smile

Tore · Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:54 pm Post subject:

DeathRay2K wrote:

I have the actual isos on my site if you'd like:
C&C
RA
I also have many of the TD graphics converted to PNG, but I don't have those online. If you like I can probably put those up too.

You don't have Aftermath, CounterStrike or Covert Operations #Tongue

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OmegaBolt · Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:24 pm Post subject:

Yeah but he has the FMVs which pwn all three of those expansions put together.

Tore · Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:43 pm Post subject:

The original iso files doesn't work "out of the box" on modern systems.

But the FMV's are awesome :O

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OmegaBolt · Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:45 pm Post subject:

Erm, my discs and ISOs work fine. :/

Tore · Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:41 pm Post subject:

I mean with the isos you have to fiddle with compat settings, patch the game with (un)official patches etc.

Nyerguds 1.06b installer and N3tRunn3r's FullRA+ does all that and installs the expansion packs too. Very Happy

And they can be installed on 64 bit systems without having to unpack the install files.

To play the FMV's you just mount the iso or insert the disk (after disabling the NoCD function in the C&C 1.06 patch #Tongue

)

And what have I done?! :O

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OmegaBolt · Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:55 pm Post subject:

I've never had to use any unofficial patch and stuff...

Rayne · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 13 Dec 2008

Thanks, I've tried to get TD and RA1 before, but somehow I always were redirected to really strance sites :/ thanks!

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Tore · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:01 pm Post subject:

OmegaBolt wrote:

I've never had to use any unofficial patch and stuff...

You don't have to but it is recommended.

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DeathRay2K · Commander **Joined**: 01 Sep 2002 **Location**: Canada

I don't have the expansion packs on there because they weren't freely released by EA, so it wouldn't be legal.
I've never had to do anything special to get them working, but some people do, and the patches are useful for them. Still, they can be installed on top of the full releases, so it's no problem.

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Rayne · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 13 Dec 2008

What size is the tiles of TD and RA1? As it needs to be 24x24 to fit. I haven't downloaded it yet, I'm not on the computer where I can work with the RTS right now.

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Tore · Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:31 pm Post subject:

DeathRay2K wrote:

I don't have the expansion packs on there because they weren't freely released by EA, so it wouldn't be legal.

Well, EA said they released "C&C Gold" and C&C Gold is C&C95 and Covert Ops.

And EA doesn't care if the expansions are hosted freely for download. This can be seen because EA has a sticky on the official C&C forums linking to a site which hosts the expansions for download. #Tongue

Heck even the 1.06 patch includes covert ops and EA posted news about it...

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raminator · Commander **Joined**: 04 Oct 2005 **Location**: Bierkasten

cnc gold was just cnc95 in germany... #Tongue

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OmegaBolt · Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:45 pm Post subject:

Same here.

Ixonoclast · Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:45 pm Post subject:

I don't remember that shit. I could barely read english when I played C&C back in the days.

A much older friend of me translated the mission objectives and pointed out what to do.

"Shoot that guy!"

Rayne · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 13 Dec 2008

Okay, please stay on topic, and stay on my topic.
I'm finally in a computer where I can work, so expect me to come begging for suggestions.

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Rayne · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 13 Dec 2008

How the hell does I convert the tmp formats to gif/bmp/png/whatever? I've exported clear1.des from desert.mix in TD, and tried to open it in shp builder and XCC tmp editor. I may sound noobish, but I can't get it to work.

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OmegaBolt · Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:42 pm Post subject:

Use XCC Mixer. Make sure your viewing the terrain in the right palette, then right click the tile and you'll be able to convert to different formats.

DeathRay2K · Commander **Joined**: 01 Sep 2002 **Location**: Canada

XCC Mixer is okay, but you also need to fix the shadows manually (Or have support for that in the engine).

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Rayne · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 13 Dec 2008

I can't copy them as that.

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raminator · Commander **Joined**: 04 Oct 2005 **Location**: Bierkasten

go here and download mm351
http://nyerguds.arsaneus-design.com/tools/old/
since it was written for dos, you need to go to console #Tongue

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Rayne · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 13 Dec 2008

Okay, and how can I make the file into a gif/bmp/png whatever with this tool?

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raminator · Commander **Joined**: 04 Oct 2005 **Location**: Bierkasten

it´s so nice that there´s a readme-file...
realy hard to find

Readme.txt wrote:

[6-2-1]: TMP2PCX
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This utility converts a template file to PCX.

The command line syntax is :

TMP2PCX [options] source[.tmp] [dest[.pcx]]

The options are :

-w:<Cols>
This is the number of tiles in each row. You must use this
option.

-p:fname[.pal]
This option is used to specify the palette file to use. If you
don't use this option, the program will look for TEMPERAT.PAL in
the current directory.

-e:[fname[.txt]]
This option is used to specify the file where information about
empty tiles will be saved. If you use only the -e switch without a
filename the name of the TMP file will be used as default with a TXT
extension.

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Rayne · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 13 Dec 2008

got it to work, thanks.

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Rayne · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 13 Dec 2008

Added TD graphics, still in need of slopes/hills graphics though. (As TD doesn't support slopes)

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raminator · Commander **Joined**: 04 Oct 2005 **Location**: Bierkasten

making slope gfx shouldn´t be too hard
you just need to darken/lighten the tiles a bit for the beginning

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Rayne · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 13 Dec 2008

I've tried it... I didn't manage to make it look good. And these are just placeholders so far.

Lol, Alot is moddable, I have working particles, items, scorches/overlays, terrain, and maps are read from files, now there's just one more thing I need to do: The units. (Units include buildings)
Better get to work.

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inzane krazy · General **Joined**: 07 Nov 2006 **Location**: Sketchpad

You have nice progress, I like how it's looking Rayne, good luck Very Happy

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OmegaBolt · Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:39 pm Post subject:

Yes! Good stuff.

Rayne · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 13 Dec 2008

Thanks. Unfortunately I'll have to go to bed now, and I'll only have some hours work tomorrow, before I need to leave. And I can unfortunately only work on weekends, I can't use my laptop I use the other days to make it.

Luckily I got a script working, so making the units working will go a little bit faster.

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Rayne · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 13 Dec 2008

UPDATE:
I now got terrain gfx from Orac (dirt).
Progress is going slow because of homework... Sad

Any volunteer to test how long the map loading time is for you? Mine is terrible, but I don't have a (good) computer.

OmegaBolt · Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:51 pm Post subject:

I'll test anything. #Tongue

Rayne · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 13 Dec 2008

Your hired. Tomorrow I'll send you a .rar in a PM, with further instructions. Very Happy

Thanks!

Oh, and if anyone got any more suggestions to this RTS... don't hesitate.

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MT · Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:02 am Post subject:

OmegaBolt wrote:

I'll test anything. #Tongue

Orac · Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:31 am Post subject:

MT wrote:

OmegaBolt wrote:

I'll test anything. #Tongue

Me too

....Just not online.

Rayne · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 13 Dec 2008

Okay, I'll send instructions and the .rar to you too.
No more testers needed.

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Feillyne · Grenadier **Joined**: 01 Jul 2008

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Hmm, did I see it or not, or it's just me? Read the whole thread nevertheless...

Crushing! Yes, it IS needed, and required to play it. x-D No RTS game without squashing! At least not that one which is supposed to be a bit realistic.

PS Plus 2-tile (or more) big vehicles.

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Rayne · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 13 Dec 2008

Mmh, crushing. <squash>
It'll be a feature. Oh, and multi-tiled units will absolutely be available. Very Happy

Keep on suggesting!

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Feillyne · Grenadier **Joined**: 01 Jul 2008

Hmmmm, could you make an .exe creator or anything similar? x-D

You know, to make stand-alone mods, or even games, using your own engine without changing it even the slightest bit. Smile

I.e. a non-open-source engine, which could be used as a little game-maker nevertheless.

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Rayne · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 13 Dec 2008

Nope, sorry.

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Feillyne · Grenadier **Joined**: 01 Jul 2008

Well, it seems no free engine will be useful for making a decent stand-alone game/mod. = (

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Rayne · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 13 Dec 2008

Nope, sorry.

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Feillyne · Grenadier **Joined**: 01 Jul 2008

You don't need to repeat yourself, I DO read well. = /

What about shaking the screen when something big exploded, etc.? (or e.g. during a nuke strike)

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Vefbl4 · General **Joined**: 07 Feb 2007

Very good.

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Rayne · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 13 Dec 2008

shaking the screen, ey? hmm...
I think that's possible.

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inzane krazy · General **Joined**: 07 Nov 2006 **Location**: Sketchpad

Rayne, what script does this use?

INI and LUA would be very nice Very Happy

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Rayne · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 13 Dec 2008

Currently just INI.
Current progress:
working on the pathfinding, using A*. I'm hoping it won't be slow.

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