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Gangster
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:57 pm    Post subject:   Update #5 Reply with quote

Good day, folks. It have been a long time with out update. I have went off-line buzy with my real life problems and left team with out proper attention. So when i have pop up on a days i haven't fould anyone at staff forum. :\
I have found it realy demotivating for myself. A lost any interest to RW. I dont want work on it any more. Just resigned. Over. End. I have already PM'ed some of you, guys, about giving everything we did for this mod. If no one will be interested, I will release it as is this at Saturday.
As for me. I have found some interest in work on RA II. Right now i am finished with terrain and did a lot. Here is a sreenshot.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is how Red Alert 2 should have been! Great work! I think that bunker thing should have been a little lower..
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry I've not been that active, but I haven't been for any projects (even my own) since real-life is eating up every second of time I have these days. Sad If you're going to be working on RAII instead, I'll glady take up the same role for it as I did for ReWire.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

has a heart attack and dies.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would certainly help if I could do anything, but I imagine all you need is graphical support.

I'd like to be interested in this but if it's just going to be discontinued then theres no point...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad news, but then again, TS should stick to TS and TS only. Recreating it over YR would've required us to wait for Ares after all. Hope the assets won't get wasted, but instead will find a home in some TS-recreation mod.

Good luck with RAII!

EDIT: Bolt, you misunderstood, RAII will continue whereas RW will not.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could I have some of those Assets for TS:AE?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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EDIT: Bolt, you misunderstood, RAII will continue whereas RW will not.


He meant that if RAII will suffer the same fate as ReWire then he'd rather not get his hopes up I believe.
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OmegaBolt
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes.

There really is no point in showing any of this if it has the possibility of just ending after just a few days of inactivity...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dammit, I want to be as skilled as you, Gangster Shocked
Then I could give ROTD the facelift it desperately needs...

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EVA-251
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you're back to working on RAII? Looks absolutely splendid!

Too bad for RW though.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait, what day is it in Russia right now?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But that was yesterday (31st). So no, this ain't april fool's.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a shame and unfortunately I don't have enough time to work for RW, so it may not be finished at all. It's the very same reason why I wasn't able to continue TFTDR.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well,at least RAII continues,and I think that we should try staying optimistic,as this looks really good Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that infantry looks awesome
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Orac
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the clean, cell shaded look on the vehicles.. It looks very good in the environment. Just beautiful.

Shame about ReWire, though.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was only a matter of time till someone took the DTA idea into the RA2 engine. Soon us voxellers will be out of the job #Tongue
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not until TS allows SHP aircraft ^_^
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L()KI
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is just beautiful, how the heck did you get RA2 normals to work?

It make me happy and jealous at the same time. Makes want to go back to RA2, which will never happen though.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

L()KI wrote:
This is just beautiful, how the heck did you get RA2 normals to work?

It make me happy and jealous at the same time. Makes want to go back to RA2, which will never happen though.

The lightning on the units is good because they're all shp's.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Besides, this is likely just a render mockup instead of being an ingame shot. Or then Gangster somehow broke the palette limitations #Tongue
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

palette limitations of what, sorry? with Ares i can make specific palette for any SHP object. Each unit, structure or cameo. For example, in RW i did two different palettes for building of each side, GDI have more tan, brown and gold colours and Nod have more grey shaded colours. I could even expand it to have a specific pallete for each object, if only i could find more easy way to create and edit thouse palettes. Someone should expand OS Palette Editor and fix bugs it have.

Terrain palette or voxel's one are indeed still harcoded.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Realy cool!

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The shadows on the cliffs are too dark.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not IMO. They look exactly like the cliffs in Red Alert and Tiberian Dawn. No, even better.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yet how does it act on slopes?...

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't wait to play this
I WANT TO SEE THE TESLA ZAPPING!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deformat wrote:
Yet how does it act on slopes?...

If Gangster goes for SHP only, there's no need for real slopes.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reaperrr wrote:
Deformat wrote:
Yet how does it act on slopes?...

If Gangster goes for SHP only, there's no need for real slopes.


...you say that those are "fake" slopes?WUT.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huh, there are no slopes... it's just like TD/RA1, everything's flat.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...wasn't that obvious?
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Alex06
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful work!
Do release the assets of TS: ReWire publically at least. I'm sure some people have good use for them.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well. I wont release any assets, because RW never was dead for real. Wink We are still working on it.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great work Gangster.

Though you should try giving the units some bright but tiny sun reflection spots (e.g. on edges pointing towards the camera), so they have some nice additional detail which you could never achieve with voxels.

The mammoth also has a slight cartoonish dark outline. Though considering your excellent modeling skills i assume it is indended to be there?!

OmegaBolt wrote:
Huh, there are no slopes... it's just like TD/RA1, everything's flat.

RA2 was no exception to this too, with its stupid non-deformable terrain and the flat maps whose only hill was placed to allow a high bridge.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Though you should try giving the units some bright but tiny sun reflection spots


Triky but I ll see what i can do. Thing is that units are done as full-remaped. And remap colours will be changed to be some more military-like: soviet-green, allied-blue, brown, black, etc.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lin you understand the system makes no sense when the default terrain type is grass, right?
The use of the deform system was to simulate craters from huge weapon impacts, it worked in TS because dirt was the default terrain.
Dirt terrain + weapon impact = crater with more dirt at bottom.
Grass terrain + weapon impact = crater with grass at bottom?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If westwood wanted to fix that they could've. RA2 was just simpler.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am SOOOO loving this! I approve!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OmegaBolt wrote:
If westwood wanted to fix that they could've. RA2 was just simpler.

That's true. The effort of supplementing the terrain deformation with switching from one terrain to another may have simply been a daunting task which would have had less impact on RA2's gameplay than TS'.

I don't feel that it is very important in RA-II either. If the game is played flat, then there is really no requirement of map deformation.

I'd like to see what Gangster has in store for us... There was talk of psychic weapons and science fiction elements?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orac wrote:
OmegaBolt wrote:
If westwood wanted to fix that they could've. RA2 was just simpler.

That's true. The effort of supplementing the terrain deformation with switching from one terrain to another may have simply been a daunting task which would have had less impact on RA2's gameplay than TS'.

I don't feel that it is very important in RA-II either. If the game is played flat, then there is really no requirement of map deformation.

I'd like to see what Gangster has in store for us... There was talk of psychic weapons and science fiction elements?


There was mention of a so called "Messing Tower"(named after a polish psychic called Wolf Messing).

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah... just called it Psychic Tower. #Tongue
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OmegaBolt wrote:
Yeah... just called it Psychic Tower. #Tongue


I'm sure it's going to be more sophisticated and refined in some ways compared to stuff in YR though.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



Found this on google.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah yes, the old stuff.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This mod goes much more into the roots of a true C&C game. Star Craft II doesn't stray off from original SC now does it?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Psychic sensor + Chaos gas SW #Tongue
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I'd like to see what Gangster has in store for us...

What are you guys want know? unit list or mod background?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gangster wrote:
Psychic sensor + Chaos gas SW #Tongue
Quote:
I'd like to see what Gangster has in store for us...

What are you guys want know? unit list or mod background?


How will the Chaos Gas SW manifest itself? Projectile used?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*Sees pic in post #1 for the first time* Damn I love the look of RAII!

I just hope it inspires more mods of this quality. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Q: How will the Chaos Gas SW manifest itself?

A: Just like EMP Cannon do.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, walls and gates... I love it!
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