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New Units & Structures analysis (PC Canard/Screenshot Hunt)
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Alex06
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:06 am    Post subject:  New Units & Structures analysis (PC Canard/Screenshot Hunt) Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

So, I had this posted on CNCSaga, it was done with another member. I was originally going to wait for the NDA to lift on the 25th so that we may get better quality screenshots and more details, but this should do, I guess, since it was already half-done by a CNCSaga staff member and posted as news. Enjoy!

Note that the pictures are links, since one can only include 10 pictures per forum post. (And I wasn't willing to spam this thread) There are some new pictures in here, you might have not seen these yet.

I have also given a complete retelling/paraphrasing of the entire PC Canard article (technically, you could say I "translated it"), which you can read by clicking here.

- EU Units -

Railgun Commando Squad
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361071361EURailgun.png
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361163...URailgunInf.png
The armor and design (and heaviness) of the weapon indicate this could be the "Railgun Commando" unit. (Which also comes in squads) The muzzle flash, range of the weapon and the trail it leaves in the second picture seem to confirm this.

Target Painter
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361071...italPointer.png
I've finally guessed what this is. Why 2 guys, one with a laptop, antennae, and another with a short and stubby weapon that looks heavy and high-tech? Simple, it's a guy communicating with a satellite and a guy with a giant laser pointer that sends data to the targeting computer. I'm guessing it's an orbital or airstrike pointer, that either calls in an orbital strike (Athena Cannon from RA3) or an airstrike (Natasha from RA3).

The second hypothesis would be that it is a target painter, but that the laser targets a unit that will then, as a result, take more damage from incoming hits (Guardian Tank from RA3).

EU Hero Unit / Commando
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361071338EUCommando.png
This is the only infantry of the EU that does not come in groups and that is holding a minigun. It's very obviously the EU's hero unit.

EU Dozer
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361054313bulldozer.jpg

SPAA Vehicle
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361054...nce_missile.jpg
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361163103EUSPAA.jpg
At first sight, one can guess this is an AA vehicle due to its radar antennae in-between those 2 rocket pods, which is a feature that primarily only anti-air vehicles have. Seeing as how this vehicle is seen in large quantities in EU vs GLA screens, it can be assumed that it probably serves an anti-armor role, too.

- EU Structures -

EU Anti-Infantry Turret
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361056...de_dA_fense.jpg
An anti-infantry turret on 3 legs, most likely for stability and rapid deployment.

Repair Pylon
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361056...lone_relais.jpg
This "pylon" is deployed by the EU APC and repairs vehicles around itself.

- GLA Units -

GLA Worker
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361055794Ouvrier_GLA.jpg
We can see two workers, one of these is transporting resources towards the supply stash via a cart, while the other one seems to have abandoned his cart to go repair the structure. Could it hint towards the possibility of leaving resource carts on the battlefield and picking them up later on?

Militants
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361073385GLAmilitia.png
The angry mob has a different, more civilian look than these infantry, and comes in a pair of more than only 3. So these infantry are most likely the early tier militants, as they do not look like "stealth guerrilla commandos" either, and aren't very much armored at all.

Worker / Saboteur
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361072913GLAWorker.png
While we can see this infantry appears to be bigger (obese) than the worker up there, it still has a hammer that looks just like the worker's in Generals 1, alongside a briefcase, which is typical of engineer units in C&C. However, the fact it looks obese while the other worker unit does not, seem to indicate the possibility this is another unit.

Toxin Grenadier
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361055...ance_toxine.jpg
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361073337GLAToxinT.png
From its equipment, it can be deduced this is a toxin infantry, no doubt. However, seeing as how it is firing at vehicles from a distance and no smoke trail is going from the infantry to the vehicle, one can suppose that these units launch some sort of grenades instead. (The weapons even look like grenade launchers)

GLA Technical
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361163348GLAtechn.png

GLA Rocket Buggy
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361162...ocketBuggy1.png
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361163064GLARockbugg.png

Radar Van
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361055...adar_mobile.jpg
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361072937GLARadarVan.png

GLA MBT
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361163365GLATankb.png

- GLA Structures -

GLA Command Center
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361056987QG_GLA.jpg

GLA Barracks
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361057154Caserne_GLA.jpg
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361073227GLABarr.png
The GLA Barracks seems to have a design very much like the Allied Barracks in RA1.

GLA Supply Stash
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361071...SupplyStash.png
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361071...upplyStash2.png
Its role is made obvious by the fact we see workers head toward it with resources, and it is placed next to a resource node.

GLA Oil Derrick
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361071262GLADerrick.png
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361163136GLADerrick2.png
The rust, design and GLA flag, along with the drilling mechanism, make this obvious.

GLA Bunker
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361057...nker_neutre.jpg
Always seen screenshots with the GLA, and on the GLA's side, it is fair to say this is most likely a GLA structure.

Arms Dealer / Toxin Arms Dealer
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361071097GLAWarFact.png
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361071...oxinWarFact.png
2 variants of the War Factory, which can specialize in either salvaging or toxins while upgrading to tech up. The toxin silos are noticeable on the 2nd pic.

GLA Turret
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361057891Tunnel.jpg
From what can be seen, this turret has some sort of long barrel, which may contain explosive or toxin cartridges (possibly with an upgrade?).

Tunnel Network
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361071...nnelNetwork.png
Looks significantly better than the one in Generals 1.

Scud Storm
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361070...LAScudStorm.png

- APA Units -

APA Infantry
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361162788APAInf.png
These look like the basic infantry. Their legs and torso appear armored, but like light infantry.

APA Hero unit
This hero unit is apparently male and functions like Tanya from Red Alert.

APA Supply Truck
The APA will have a supply truck to gather resources.

APA MBT
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361055..._Empereur_1.jpg
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361163011APATank1.png
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361162897APATank1b.png
The replacement for the Battlemaster, this tank comes with 2 barrels, which may or may not be an upgrade (I'm personally leaning more on the no upgrade situation). This is not the Overlord Tank, despite some similarities. The treads and viewport are different.

Gatling Tank
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361055...har_gatling.jpg

Nuke Cannon
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361162...ANukeCannon.png
Not confirmed if it is a Nuke Cannon, but the design of the vehicle is the exact same as the Nuke Cannon from Generals 1.

Overlord Tank
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361055..._Empereur_2.jpg
The Overlord Tank returns, with its famous gatling turret (possibly an upgrade, but it may come with the vehicle directly). There are also grinders at the front, indicating at the possibility that, if not only for purely aesthetic reasons, this vehicle might be able to crush certain vehicles and/or infantry, perhaps even walls or mines.

- APA Structures -

APA Command Center
The APA's Command Center will have the ability to upgrade to Tiers 2 and 3, which will upgrade the Tier level for the player respectively. (Zerg Hatchery / Lair / Hive from StarCraft)

APA Power Plant
The APA's Power Plant works exactly like the first Generals; Power is a resource provided by each structure and contributes to the overall base power output.

APA Supply Center
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361071416APASupply.png

APA War Factory
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361071446APAWarFact.png
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361163190APAWarFact1.png

Tactical Nuke Silo
http://forum.cncsaga.com/pixaddict/1361057..._nuclA_aire.jpg
The APA has tactical nukes as its superweapon. The missile comes out vertically now instead of lifting up from a "sleep" position.

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OmegaBolt
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Cool. I thnk you missed a couple of things though, looking at the pictures Martin Killer posted up:

http://forum.cncsaga.com/topic/7903-6-images-de-canard-pc/

Second from top there are 2 heavier GLA tanks to left. Also on the last one you get quite clear views of a light tank and double barrelled EU tank.

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freedom fighter
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Seems that they reused an old concept for the GLA Comm Center. And now that I have a closer look at the APA MBT, it doesn't look like a Type 99 on 'roids. Instead, it looks suspiciously Russian (and nostalgic Wink).

I bet MigEater can tell what British tank the new GLA MBT is.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Nice job. I think this may actually turn out better than I expected.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm disappointed they're double barrel. Ugh.

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Holy_Master
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i wonder if i can spam Railgun Tank to win everything just like Prism Tank in Ra2. :p

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Alex06
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

OmegaBolt wrote:
Cool. I thnk you missed a couple of things though, looking at the pictures Martin Killer posted up:

http://forum.cncsaga.com/topic/7903-6-images-de-canard-pc/

Second from top there are 2 heavier GLA tanks to left. Also on the last one you get quite clear views of a light tank and double barrelled EU tank.

The one with the toxin pill at the back is a toxin version of the MBT, built at the toxin variant of the War Factory. The other is the 2nd variant. It's all in my original report, from last month.

Furtherly, I'd speculate that the War Factory, by default, at Tier 1, can only build low-tech units such as the Rocket Buggy and Technical. When upgraded to Tier 2 with Salvage upgrade, it gets the open-topped version of the MBT and when upgraded to Tier 2 with the Toxin upgrade, it gets the Toxin MBT, instead. Judging by the fact both vehicles are seen on-screen at the same time, it would be fair to say that you can build more than 1 War Factory and individually upgrade each one respectively with whatever upgrade you want, so you can have both the Toxin and Salvage War Factories at the same time.

freedom fighter wrote:
Seems that they reused an old concept for the GLA Comm Center. And now that I have a closer look at the APA MBT, it doesn't look like a Type 99 on 'roids. Instead, it looks suspiciously Russian (and nostalgic Wink).

I bet MigEater can tell what British tank the new GLA MBT is.

Right on all accounts. The art style reminds me of MEC2. MEC2 art was done by a guy named Michael Kus. He's also done some really high-quality C&C fan art before. They might've hired the guy.

Volgin wrote:
I'm disappointed they're double barrel. Ugh.

Yeah, me too. It's too cliche to have an MBT that's double-barreled. Feels very RAish, very cheesy.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This pretty much answers my question in the other topic: the China replacement as the iconic units from China Very Happy

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