Also Known As: banshee_revora (Steam) Joined: 15 Aug 2002 Location: Brazil
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2002 3:55 am Post subject:
Names...
How should we call PPM/Team-PPM when it was only one team? Since both names are taken and now team-ppm.com is also from Team-PPM, I really have no names to call the old times... QUICK_EDIT
(banshee will reply below i bet, well he always sais somethgin when the stu logig is on this subject)
USE STU LOGIC!!!! the errr, Brill Way To Get Ur Names..... Errr Names....
anyway
this place = PPM-R
mpp.entexplode.com = T-PPM
and the "old" PPM = PPM
also PPM = dead
well thats how my brain processes the data......no mater what u change the name of this place to(Stu looks at Banshee trying to say "THERE IS NO PPM-R STU!!!! THRE IS ONLY PMM!!!!!") _________________ Free Map Editor - Game Requirements - Stucuk.Net QUICK_EDIT
Also Known As: banshee_revora (Steam) Joined: 15 Aug 2002 Location: Brazil
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 3:25 am Post subject:
Stu Logic is wrong, because this place is PPM. PPM-R was a name of a successfull operation which removed LC from PPM (but it didnt uninfected MPP). QUICK_EDIT
PPM split into 2 factions(groups) PPM-R(the first name of the group) and T-PPM.
so PMM-R = here, cos it can't b PPM since its dead. (note: u didn't kick LC out so u can't b the "PPM", if LC was kicked out he would have been kicked by the whole or most of the team, but it seeems that 4 or so just started a new group(also LC sais he was never told he was/is kicked so u can't kick someone n not tell them))
Yes you can. I could kick a staff member of my site without saying anything.
Its called set their forum group to 'Registered' and change all the passwords on the site
They'll get the hint with the staff section gives them a 401 error. QUICK_EDIT
Things we have that were with PPM from the beginning:
All PPM Members
All PPM Work
All PPM Ideas
The original purpose of PPM that gives it its name
The rights to PPM Work, ideas, and the NAME
Things we DON'T have:
Nothing
Hate to break it to you, Stu, but PPM existed for about a year before Mr.K gave us a domain name, and if you'd been around then, you'd think the way we do. Trust me.
Also, we DID kick LC out of the group. The only thing is, we couldn't tell anyone since if we did, he'd delete all of our work before we had a chance to recover it. Also, Mr.K would leave (Which he did) so we needed another website. QUICK_EDIT
Also Known As: banshee_revora (Steam) Joined: 15 Aug 2002 Location: Brazil
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2002 3:45 am Post subject:
Stu, PPM started in the start october 2000. PPM members were Kane, CC, Chitzkoi, Crackmine.... Sk8erkid joined in the middle of the same month. Crackmine has disapeared several times until disappear forever. Chitzkoi disappeared with the change of forums and one yea later LC had found him and he confirmed that he wanted to leave PPM. So, we have the starting team. Tiberian Sun 0000 has joined us before the end of the year 2000 with DeathRay. In march 2001, Karreman joined PPM. He made a website called PPM "One" Website and made the incredible job of stopping the website wars and organizing us into one place: Team-PPM.com. Lethargic Crowd joined PPM in may 2001. People used to confuse LC and I as leaders, because we used to organize the team and to be more participative than other members. However, PPM hasnt, doesnt and wont have leaders. PPM is always PPM. Team-PPM is another mod... QUICK_EDIT
Stop going on about K-man being a "new" member , u keep on going on about it(im on about Kane).
and normaly u don't chuck everyone apart form the "original members" then once the "Evil one"(aka LC) sais he knows about the "PPM-R Forums" does everyoen else even know.(PPL came hear and asked to join, and they were members b4, so how can u kick everyone out n start from scratch? sounds liek the "originals" got out n made a new team)
and stop throwing PPM's history in my face, i will never know or care how meny creators there were or every little detail on every aspect of PPM's history. P.S i hate history........
(and yes doug u can chuck ppl out physicaly but that wasn't done in this case, they just left the building n setup shop somewhere else)
this is how i see the situation, You have a company, u have the chairmen (the creators) and the workforce(everyoen else on the team), the chairmen don't like the current situation so they leave ther building and setup a new company with the same name as the last, but noone is informed, so they company hasn't died, its still being ran whilst the chairment are seting up, the building is still there, the work still goes on. So how can u be PPM when u left? _________________ Free Map Editor - Game Requirements - Stucuk.Net QUICK_EDIT
In that situation, stu, the chairmen leave and take all rights to the company and products with them. When they setup shop elsewhere, the old workers are essentially fired. Understood? Good. QUICK_EDIT
Well acording to the "idea" of PPM there is no leader(s), so that would be wrong, unless the original are acxtually the leaders and that "idea" only applies to everyone else.
if all members are equals then the mod is everyones(so everyone would technically own it), obvacly if banshee creates a gkhfdskhnfdkh then that is his. _________________ Free Map Editor - Game Requirements - Stucuk.Net QUICK_EDIT
why nto call yourselves aftermath...i mean it fits considering that its like the aftermath of the war between you guys and lc that lead to the split and everythign of course its still going on and probably always will but aftermath is justa cool name and would suit yall i beleave could just be me tho..ill shut up now... QUICK_EDIT
Also Known As: banshee_revora (Steam) Joined: 15 Aug 2002 Location: Brazil
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 9:06 pm Post subject:
Mate... LC is a mercenary. He is doing all the hell he did for himself. Do you remember that he used to post everywhere "En Taro PPM!" or "En Taro EE!"? And do you think that he was really doing that for PPM and EE? He has betrayed both PPM and EE and is now laughing at the EE's situation. Do you know why he betrayed us? Because we were against his plans, against what he wanna do... He wanna rule PPM first, after he was kicked, he wanted to use EE's Terms of Service to not let we use his work and at the same time, he wanted to bypass the TOS to use our work and hack us around and diss us in EE forums. Fortunatelly, Doug is not a zombie and became against his ideas. He considered that an act of treason and betrayed Doug. So, do you really think that he still deserves the name PPM in his mod? Obviously not! That is not a Project Perfect Mod with everyone's idea made for everyone. That's a mod with everyone's work made for LC. WE ARE NOT SLAVES, MATE! LC was a trap to PPM all this time... he had bring all the decadence to us and we will not change our initial name because of him. We were PPM, we are PPM and we will keep being PPM! QUICK_EDIT
Technically ppm split(and yes cos u renamed ur self to ppm-r which means u were a new group formed by the "iold" members. So tecnically "LC's mod" is ppm or there is no ppm left, And i bet soemoen will say no this no that. _________________ Free Map Editor - Game Requirements - Stucuk.Net QUICK_EDIT
Also Known As: banshee_revora (Steam) Joined: 15 Aug 2002 Location: Brazil
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 9:45 pm Post subject:
We havent renamed ourselves to PPM-R, Stu. We've named the operation of kicking LC from the mod as PPM-Revolution Operation X51. But this was a crazy idea from CC and Kane. But we've always had the rights of the name PPM since:
We've created it in october 2000, we are the original members, we worked on LC and we did not acted against the mod like LC did. We have the original purpouse, we are making it based in
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Things we have that were with PPM from the beginning:
All PPM Members
All PPM Work
All PPM Ideas
The original purpose of PPM that gives it its name
The rights to PPM Work, ideas, and the NAME
Things we DON'T have:
Nothing
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In that situation, stu, the chairmen leave and take all rights to the company and products with them. When they setup shop elsewhere, the old workers are essentially fired. Understood? Good.
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No one leads the mod, but the origional creators hold all rights to the mod.
Stu, for once, and forever, dont be a stubborn. you are in PPM and Team-PPM from LC is another crap that shouldnt neither deserve the name PPM inside its name... QUICK_EDIT
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2002 8:22 am Post subject:
errr
you failed to mention mwaaa?
i came a month after LC, Even tho i just laze about doing ztype all! i still like to be appreciated for stuff i have no relavence too(and i know my spelling is wank).it makes me feel happy, and everything was absolutly amazing! in the spring/summer of 2001 LC was normal and got on with work me and crazed panda just talked...i miss those times and it's hard to belive they will never come back QUICK_EDIT
well i came here int eh midst of the ban Lc war and had hella fun wit you guys even tho ban and Lc where going at it like cats and dogs but hell thats just how things are eh?
Neways next suggesting is...
Perfect Mods Suck
J/K it spells out PMS get it LMFAO that was one of my better jokes *sigh*
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