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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well at this point we give intel via Tornados and Sattelite images....which should in theory be more reliable thanwhat france has at their disposal or what russians OR americans can provide (or want...for that matter)....i just know that our politicians are very opposed to the idea to help assad. I heard someone say "the syrian army is a viable option...but without assad".
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well at this point we give intel via Tornados and Sattelite images....which should in theory be more reliable thanwhat france has at their disposal or what russians OR americans can provide (or want...for that matter)....i just know that our politicians are very opposed to the idea to help assad. I heard someone say "the syrian army is a viable option...but without assad".

You forget, the Russians are working the the Iranians, the Iraqis, the Lebanese and even various autonomous groups on the ground, they know exactly who they're fighting and where. Not only that, but they know the planning going forward, they don't just bomb and hope for the best, the army is involved in the strategy.

And yes the Germans/French are still officially insisting Assad must go, although for a while there, the Americans weren't...  it all depends which way the power appears to be shifting, and they must feel the Paris "excuse" is good enough to impose their will.

I have serious doubts about the peace talks in Austria doing anything, they aren't involving the Syrians in the process, but they are demanding that ex-Syrians all around the world get a vote...  they are already trying to rig the elections a year before.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well at this point we give intel via Tornados and Sattelite images....which should in theory be more reliable thanwhat france has at their disposal or what russians OR americans can provide (or want...for that matter)....i just know that our politicians are very opposed to the idea to help assad. I heard someone say "the syrian army is a viable option...but without assad".

You forget, the Russians are working the the Iranians, the Iraqis, the Lebanese and even various autonomous groups on the ground, they know exactly who they're fighting and where. Not only that, but they know the planning going forward, they don't just bomb and hope for the best, the army is involved in the strategy.

And yes the Germans/French are still officially insisting Assad must go, although for a while there, the Americans weren't...  it all depends which way the power appears to be shifting, and they must feel the Paris "excuse" is good enough to impose their will.

I have serious doubts about the peace talks in Austria doing anything, they aren't involving the Syrians in the process, but they are demanding that ex-Syrians all around the world get a vote...  they are already trying to rig the elections a year before.



honestly, with us going in there, with the opposing views, with all the bullshit, it smells like a catastrophe to happen.

And yes you are right with the troops that are on the ground and actually fighting. But it will take a longer road, even with enough manpower and supplies, maybe even more men than Iran is willing to add to the war.
They even sent Brigades from Irag into syria, the Iraqi version of Hezbollah "kataib hezbollah" has been seen fighting alongside the SAA.

And all those are the only forces that seem to actually have strategical impact and know what is important to control.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The SAA also works closely with local militias from a given village or town they are trying to liberate, people who know the land, something the western allies can't do. Sending in a few brigades of outsiders, even highly trained ones, will never be as effective.

The Iraqi and Syrian armies are collaborating in a number of areas, and you're right the various Hezbollah groups are moving around wherever they are most needed.

For example it was mainly Hezbollah fighters with the Iranian general Soleimani that ran the rescue operation for the Russian pilot... they did it quickly while no one was expecting and killed all the militants that were involved. Once they were safely back, the airforces spent the next 2 days wiping out every hostile group that didn't run back to Turkey in the area.

There's a marked difference in how an airforce operates with ground troops, they are force multipliers... unlike when they just bomb using "best guess" intel on satellite photos.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Former ISIS hostage says airstrikes on Syria are a trap: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/02/nicolas-henin-video-isis-syria-strikes?

Unfortunately the UK parliament voted for bombing Syria, after our Prime Minister called anyone opposing the airstrikes as "terrorist sympathizers", leading to lots of references to Goering's comment on fear mongering to get people to go to war. I don't know whos side we're on, but we're back in action. What would a war be without the her majesty's United Kingdom sticking its dick in?

Here's a wikileaks cable from 2006 involving Israel and the US: https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06DAMASCUS5399_a.html

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"Nonetheless, there are some long-standing vulnerabilities and looming issues that may provide opportunities to up the pressure on Bashar and his inner circle."

"The family, and hangers on, as well as the larger Alawite sect, are not immune to feuds and anti-regime conspiracies, as was evident last year when intimates of various regime pillars (including the Makhloufs) approached us about post-Bashar possibilities."

"ENCOURAGE RUMORS AND SIGNALS OF EXTERNAL PLOTTING: The regime is intensely sensitive to rumors about coup-plotting and restlessness in the security services and military. Regional allies like Egypt and Saudi Arabia should be encouraged to meet with figures like Khaddam and Rif, at Asad as a way of sending such signals, with appropriate leaking of the meetings afterwards. This again touches on this insular regime's paranoia and increases the possibility of a self-defeating over-reaction."

"Extremist elements increasingly use Syria as a base, while the SARG has taken some actions against groups stating links to Al-Qaeda. With the killing of the al-Qaida leader on the border with Lebanon in early December and the increasing terrorist attacks inside Syria culminating in the September 12 attack against the US embassy, the SARG,s policies in Iraq and support for terrorists elsewhere as well can be seen to be coming home to roost."

"This analysis leaves out the anti-regime Syrian Islamists because it is difficult to get an accurate picture of the threat within Syria that such groups pose. They are certainly a long-term threat."


So it looks like outsiders have been very much involved in destabilising Syria for at least a decade. How large a part they might've actively played in tipping the country into civil war, we don't know. Though looking at the US's public historical record of regime change, it'd be lucky if they didn't play a sizable role.

EDIT: And here's a nice clip of some children, being taught to fear the west. Several of these children may well turn to less scrupulous individuals for safety and hope as they grow older. With every bomb we drop, we give them a reason to hate us.

https://www.facebook.com/xmnewsmedia/videos/1021574914551189/

With every video of cultures, countries and lives being destroyed by our hands, we push more of our own citizens away too - some of whom may wish to turn to the opposition themselves. When someone from the US or europe "defects" to ISIS, they may well simply believe they're helping to defend the victims of industrialised murder. With every bomb dropped, ever war declared, every penny spent on weapons instead of healthcare, education and other critical public services that have been cut by the billions these last 5 years, I lose any love I might've had for this country that calls itself the "United" Kingdom.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Russia is exposing everything, and it's great. The States and Israel etc., in response, try to distract humans by setting up public shootings, and getting those events to be the headlines on all major mass media outlets.

Russia waits for those stories to fall off of the headlines, so when Russia does post footage and information on the Israeli/USA operations in Syria it has a higher chance of getting noticed.

Russia says "We employ the Americans to look at their own drone footage." lol. Check out the end of this video, and you should notice an American drone with a V wing shape on the back, flaying around, watching everything, lmao.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAgp5gkV-K4

Putin Accuses US Of ISIS Oil Coverup, and has proof. With so much Recon being done, its hard not to have proof. Full article here:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-05/putin-accuses-us-isis-oil-coverup

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Also, BBC and the United States caught staging phony syrian gas attack in 2013, use “crisis actors”

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Now Russia Today brings us conclusive proof that Britain and the United States tried to push for a war with Syria and Russia by staging chemical attacks inside ISIS controlled Syria using altered video and paid crisis actors.

There is now also conclusive evidence that real sarin gas attacks were staged in Syria as well with full American complicity and knowledge at the CIA and Pentagon but not the White House.

Sources in Washington tell us that when President Obama learned of the American ploy which killed hundreds of Syrian civilians, he ordered the US to “cleanse” the chemical and bio-weapons facility, the “Lugar Lab” in Tbilisi, Georgia.

During this “cleansing process,” Veteran's Today gained access to the facility and witnessed transit of WMD equipment to US planes prior to an inspection by Russian media.


http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/12/06/busted-bbc-and-cia-caught-staging-phony-syrian-gas-attack-in-2013-use-crisis-actors/

rofl ^^ this is way too good.

And finally, in regards to the zionists pricks, who are responsible for all of this, the France attack, etc.:

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Brother, the point is, the chaos enables the lockdown and without the lockdown, they, the zionist, neocon 9/11 perpetrators all face the meat hook. So, chaos and more chaos is what The West has as their only game plan going forward.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DoMiNaNt_HuNtEr wrote:
Russia is exposing everything, and it's great. The States and Israel etc., in response, try to distract humans by setting up public shootings, and getting those events to be the headlines on all major mass media outlets.


Wow... I mean wow...

You know it man, you know what really goes on in the world.

https://youtu.be/tHnYvG9TzNM?t=3m20s

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's big parking lot of oil tankers floating off the coast of Turkey full of stolen oil, and now there's an increasing number of warships floating not far from that.

The Frenchies are still playing a two-faced game, supporting America/NATO and cooperating with the anti-terrorist team via Russia. The British are playing a me-too game, spurred by the warmongering elites not to look soft, while trying to figure out who's useless nuclear arsenal they will pay for in the coming years. Germany meanwhile is a victim of it's history and it's total abandon of all reason to distance themselves from the imperialist and bigoted Third Reich; while also being at the mercy of the Americans who have stolen over 1000 tons of their gold, by not allowing them to have it back.

The Americans are playing all sides in a sort of nation-scale Russian-roulette, where the only possible outcome is more destruction or chaos, because they still stupidly believe they can control the result, or at the least benefit from it until they do. It's looking more and more like a kamikaze mission to basically destroy any other possible alliance or powerful nation who could challenge them, regardless of cost. This middle-east is already weak, and the oil price is killing them, they are not going to be a "threat" in the grans scheme for a long time.

Unfortunately their silly games have all played to the benefit of the Russians. The trade embargoes have spurred local industry to fill the gap, which is to the detriment of Europe more than anything. The sanctions over Crimea and financial manipulation has caused the ruble to drop, making their oil and gas even more profitable as they don't denominate it in USD like almost everyone else. Where the loss of low-interest foreign loans have been a problem for some businesses, ordinary people are doing immensely well saving in double digit interest accounts for the first time in a long time.

Add to that, the Syria military operations are providing excellent training and experience to a bored military, while fueling their military contractors with unexpected new business. This means they can field test lots of new toys they've been masturbating with in Siberia for the past decade, seeing what really works best tactically.

Short of an all out war, Russia is winning now, and going to keep winning, while everyone else politically or economically suicides around them.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

0warfighter0 wrote:


Wow... I mean wow...

You know it man, you know what really goes on in the world.

https://youtu.be/tHnYvG9TzNM?t=3m20s


Idea You post a youtube video featuring FOX news casts, and some little nerd burglar cash in? Kyle Kulinski is s paid shill, he does a pure youtube faggotry fest.

Warfighter, can you definitively refute my posted revelations/documentations? Or are you just gonna spew dribble?

If you wanna just spout bullshit, by all means. We can just shift gears, get this topic trashed into crap, and try to verbally abuse each other on the internet. Bring it on, you ztyping primate. Succumb to spam, I dare you.

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It should be noted that Kyle Kulinski is a construct of another fake left disinformation peddler, Cenk Uygur.

However, while Kulinski does that, he peppers in so much disinformation and self-contradictory BS, he completely convolutes the essential lesson to be learned from “ISIS™” and Iraq and Syria as a whole leaving his “secular progressive” audience with the distinct impression that we are right and just to be fighting “ISIS™”

In short, Fox “News” couldn’t have done it better and in fact, Fox “News” couldn’t have done it at all with his audience of “secular progressives”, hence the controlled opposition function he performs is served.


https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2015/09/13/deconstructing-kyle-kulinskis-and-sam-harris-isis-disinformation/

http://newmediarockstars.com/2015/05/want-to-be-youtube-famous-the-young-turks-want-to-teach-you-how/

NOTE TO PRIMATES: Kulinski is the man in the video that monkey boy posted. Try watching ALL OF WarFighter's posted video, start to finish. The ztyping clown.

Kulinksi is a ztyping asshat:

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So, why would Kyle Kulinski mention Jones in this context rather than someone like Prof Michel Chossudovsky, Washington’s Blog, Stephen Lendman, Prof. James Petras, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts or even myself for that matter?

Is it because he’s ignorant or lazy? No. It’s because he doesn’t want to provide any of his followers with the names of reasonable investigative journalists doing reasonable research into the matter because once they start reading the work of those real journalists, it will expose his own rhetoric as disinformation. It’s that simple.

The real conspiracy theorists must never be named so instead, disinfo assets like Kyle Kulinski have sheep-dipped controlled opposition assets like Alex Jones to toss out there as representatives of us.

See how that works?

He actually starts and ends his evaluation of the Sam Harris comment with this Alex Jones disinfo. That’s how important it is to his agenda.

Also notice his use of the term “conspiracy theorists” That gives you an idea of how “alternative” this clown really is.


Read the full article, and never watch another thing by Kulinski again:
https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2015/09/13/deconstructing-kyle-kulinskis-and-sam-harris-isis-disinformation/

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First we had some idiot linking lame-o Bloomberg explain-o videos for retards, and now this

Instead of an idiot. now its some greasy little hipster idiot, perhaps? I mean monkeys are pretty greasy, they don't wash their hands.

So some filthy animal posts Kulinski videos?

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WHERE THE HELL DO YOU PEOPLE KEEP COMING FROM?! What, were all you guys like hypnotized in your sleep, and then commanded to hammer out the poison? Your sovereignty has been snuffed out, and you don't give a ztype? What the ztype IS WRONG WITH YOU?

GET BACK TO THE POINT, LOOK AT WHAT I'VE PRESENTED. Prove me wrong, or spam, hurry the ztype up, and make your choice.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately the human mass is very susceptible to this kind of filth:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

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Operation Mockingbird is a secret campaign by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to influence media. Begun in the 1950s, it was initially organized by Cord Meyer and Allen W. Dulles, and was later led by Frank Wisner after Dulles became the head of the CIA. The organization recruited leading American journalists into a network to help present the CIA's views, and funded some student and cultural organizations, and magazines as fronts. As it developed, it also worked to influence foreign media and political campaigns, in addition to activities by other operating units of the CIA.


Thanks to the new age Gutenburg press, called "The Internet", there can be no more hiding. Even consolidated push work such as "Wikipedia", will show alot of this shit on record, so to speak.

There can be no secrets nowadays. However, after all these years of consensual slavery, it is tough to wake up a person in such deep sleep. The fronts are really convincing to them, plus they have to go back to work in the morning, with nary any room in their mind nor energy in their soul for such extraneous thoughts, because thanks to their upbringings, their thought patterns are so bare bones, not even touching above third density - there is little room for expansion.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sigh, I made this thread to share mutual support on a human-to-human level, for countries affected by the recent wave of terrorism.. not to talk about the inner workings of the illuminati
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TB: if you don't admit that the "radical islamist extremists/terrorists" are not radical, or very islamic, or anything of the sort, and merely well paid, trained and armed mercenaries, then you aren't asking for the right people to get along...

The "moderate" and less-than-moderate terrorists in Syria would be wiped out in 3 weeks if the "extremists" in Saudia Arabia, Qatar, Israel, America, Turkey, Britain, and America stopped giving them weapons, money and food.

We've already seen a mass exodus of the less hardcore militants into Europe (or just as far as Turkey) after the Russians bombed the hell out of them. More than 6000 fighters have deserted, with around 400 of them being killed by the various terrorist group leaders in november alone, and another 300-600 just left Syria last week towards Iraq, hoping to find safe passage out via the Turkish ratline going to Mosul.

Al-Baghdadi the supposed leader of the non-starter Caliphate was evacuated to Turkey nearly a month ago after suffering injuries. He's apparently all better, so they moved him to Lybia, to run the city where Ghaddafi was overthrown, and where the Russians have no authority to bomb. They can do this because they know Russia plays by international law, something NATO+ME doesn't.

Now instead of building bridges with people who feel slighted by the cover story, how about spending your time exposing the cocksuckers who cause all the killing, and vindicate the slighted?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty spot on there, G-E. Dayum, sun! Between me and you, we got some pretty hardcore flowery ass language goin' on up in this bitch. Foe' REEEL!

Team Black, sorry, but, yeah. We gotta keep pushing. You gave a bare bones sleeper's response to the Paris bombings - we gotta flesh those bones out!

I don't want to be a chump for the rest of my life, but if everyone is asleep on the whole issue, then what the ztype is gonna happen? Martial law is supposed to require consent from the people. So if the people are all duped up on False Flag events, blindly accepting them as straight black & white, and just being nationalistic dummies, then we, are, all FUCKED!

France was a planned bombing, although it was more spontaneous than 9/11 - I would love to see the criminals that set it all up. These traitors to decent human government - I want to see all of them hanged for their crimes.

Benjamin Netanyahu is the first guy to go. Seriously, somebody ztyping DESTROY this guy. It would be nice to see all of the Rothshildren to get butchered on public TV. We also got the Rockefellers that need to go. So, so many people.

Team Black, you're angry at the bombings in France. Yah yah, humans died, so throw some funerals, blah blah blah. Sentimental man, good job on that. Now, would you be interested in knowing why this keeps happening in the world?

Cut to the source, get to the top, figure out who is actually pushing this chaos out onto us.

Unfortunately most people don't do this, because most people have been absorbing propaganda and thinly veiled advertisements passing off as news, and then they walk away with only some fear and some hatred in their minds. But they don't really elaborate on the experience. To them, its quite simple - a bunch of towel heads bombed our shit, so lets go kick their ass!

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Fair enough, but thats ztyping boring, and, not the full story.
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