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Lin Kuei Ominae
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:55 pm    Post subject:  World War 3 imminent? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Reading the recent news, i wonder how long it will take till WW3 starts? Some actually say, it started already.

Russian politians openly suggest nuclear attack against civilians

France is becoming right

USA is continuously tampering in foreign politics (wars, espionage etc) but so far always only made things worse.
First supporting IS to destabilize Assad, then fighting the IS. Fighting the dominant regime in another country, to then leaving the might vacuum be filled only by an even worse enemy is no solution.

Propaganda in Russia (no free press anymore) and USA reached a new top since cold war.

US stations new nuclear weapons in Germany
Germany still too cowardly to say "no" to USA.

USA, Russia, France, Germany, Turkey...
15 nations fight in Syria. Sometimes with each other, sometimes against each other. Each fighting for a different goal and their own intentions.
And altogether without any common strategy.
It's only a matter of time till a wrong shot makes them turn against each other openly and in a global scale.
And amongst the chaos, the Daesh monsters only use the situation for their propaganda to expand even more.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Russian politicians have been trolling like that for a while, saying that they're ready to use nukes against anyone who opposes them. Some have also said that they think that Russia should get its old (1917) borders back by force, and some have specifically mentioned that Finland belongs to Russia. I wouldn't take their statements that seriously unless they come from someone close to Putin, although it's worrying how they're brainwashing the Russian people to accept that attacking other countries is the right thing to do. Another thing is the question of who comes after Putin; it could be some maniac that actually gives the order to nuke a country.

I wouldn't expect the powers fighting in Syria to cause WW3. While it's likely for them to fire at each other (which actually happened already), I'd estimate any conflicts to be local in scope and happen mostly in Syria only. Starting a large-scale war isn't in anyone's interests and would benefit no one. I'm not expecting them to manage to restore peace in Syria either, the conflict will probably go on for decades with some of the participants sometimes withdrawing and others joining it.

While the situation in Syria is messed up, it's not everything. The migration crisis is pretty much splitting the EU in half, with some countries (Sweden, Germany, Finland) letting everyone in while Eastern European countries have the exact opposite policy. Some Western European countries, like France are also adopting a stricter migration policy. Parties that are against immigration ("far right", as the media likes calling them) are rising in popularity everywhere (the French Front National and Sweden Democrats are good examples), and there's a lot of tension between people who want the borders closed and people supporting the migrants.

As the reception systems of different countries collapse (it will eventually happen if the current flow continues; Sweden's has more or less collapsed already) and segregation continues, I wouldn't be surprised to see a civil war in Europe in the next 5-10 years, with conservative, ethnic Europeans (who "want their country back") fighting against the migrants and Europeans who have supported liberal migration policies.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Today was tzhe first day the US attacked a Syrian Government position.

Apparently they did not know that.
But this is the kind of shit that stirs up unnessessary aggressions when you refuse to act by an UN mandate and enter another country unlawfully with military force.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I dont think Russia will ever use a atomic bomb against civilians, like the USA twice in japan.

In real Germany, and all other countrys in the EU are only dogs for the USA to isolate Russia and sabotage them.

And turkey only got pissed on, that russia destroyed all the nice oil what brings them the money. I mean look on turkey, they was poor as s*** some years ago and now they have money?
Turkey only shooted that jet, because they was mad at russia. And they feel strong now because theire in the EU.

And the other EU countries dont got balls to punish them or kick them out because they dont want that turkey let the migrants come to europe.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

We Don't Want Judgment Day get near!

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I doubt it but everyone said that before the last two world wars as well.

The real issue will be how far either side wants to go to topple Assad. Senators in the US have suggested they ought to have plans to go to war with Russia if they try stop them. Of course I don't think Obama would go that far but if the next president is any of the Republican candidates, or possibly Hillary Clinton, then it could very well happen. The UK and France joining unfortunately strengthens the US side and willingness not to back down. The UK's main reason for entering the war is Assad, no question.

How far Russia or Iran would go to defend Syria is another matter. It does seem like they're drawing the line here after Iraq & Libya. If the western coalition continue to bomb Syrian government forces then they're really pushing their buttons.

However, in the mid term I think WW3 is inevitable this century. With the ongoing ecological collapse and the extra pressure climate change, food & water shortages, higher living costs in the west and the "antibiotics apocalypse", confrontation seems unavoidable. I highly doubt we'll recognize our faults, put down our weapons and work together.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

blubb wrote:
Today was tzhe first day the US attacked a Syrian Government position.

Apparently they did not know that.
But this is the kind of shit that stirs up unnessessary aggressions when you refuse to act by an UN mandate and enter another country unlawfully with military force.

Bullshit, they and their allies have been attacking civilians and Syrian govt positions for years... Turkey and Israel have attacked water filtration and power generation plants in the last 3 months, in places where there weren't* any terrorists.

They are deliberately trying to make life hard for govt supporters in hopes they will also rebel.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

G-E wrote:
blubb wrote:
Today was tzhe first day the US attacked a Syrian Government position.

Apparently they did not know that.
But this is the kind of shit that stirs up unnessessary aggressions when you refuse to act by an UN mandate and enter another country unlawfully with military force.

Bullshit, they and their allies have been attacking civilians and Syrian govt positions for years... Turkey and Israel have attacked water filtration and power generation plants in the last 3 months, in places where there were terrorists.

They are deliberately trying to make life hard for govt supporters in hopes they will also rebel.


No what i mean is that an US machine hit a government position. Practically paved the way for an ISIS attack in deir ezzor.

The US to this point did not use dirtect action against assad forces, only proxies.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well why do you think the Turks just setup an airbase in IS controlled areas near Mosul too?

The Spice must flow!

PS. The Brits killed some civilians too, must have looked very scary in their drone footage...

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I Don't know, but what should We Do for the Terrorists, they are the most (De)evil people ever this century too.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Basically, AG pretty much nailed it.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Global population increase is often flagged as the leading cause of most of the world's problems, but this is hardly the case. Most of the population expansion occurs in developing countries, where it has little effect globally because their ecological footprint is insignificant compared to ours. We, the rich western countries, are a major driving force behind the global ecological disaster, because we have created the demand through so-called land use displacement. In other words, we have outsourced our resources to second and third world countries, so it only seems as if we're all high and mighty with our nature reservations, clean technology, etc. As we all know, Europe is exceedingly dependent on imported energy and natural resources. For example, we produce only a fraction of all the metal we use, so the rest is mined elsewhere in far less supervised and sustainable conditions. Another example is palm oil, which in Europe – unbeknownst to consumers – is used everywhere because it's cheap, even though it's directly causing the destruction of rain forests in Indonesia and elsewhere.

Another major problem is the increasing affluence of the vast middle class in countries like China and India. They are starting to adopt a similar extravagant lifestyle as ours, with larger houses, cars, and increased consumption of meat. Not only is excessive meat consumption (à la West) unsustainable, it is also incredibly unethical in China, where they have little or no animal rights or animal ethics (which is at the same time ridiculous and explicable because of their history, but that's another story).

Tl;dr: in order to ultimately benefit the world, the Third World War would somehow have to eliminate the elite (permanently), not the poor majority. CABAL was right, you know.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

My little brother's idea of building an underground bunker-house in central Alabama is sounding more and more like a good life choice.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

daTS wrote:
My little brother's idea of building an underground bunker-house in central Alabama is sounding more and more like a good life choice.


LOL you are going to make it soon.

to be honest some here agree the Russia will start the war while America did nothing but in fact they are all involved in the whole war and in the beginning of ISIS and many other terroists and as you said lko they are only fighting for their intentions while the most country will be damaged will be turkey.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Any Australians here can we please migrate to your country? We promise to bring our own V8 engines and chrome spray paints :3


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

While it is rather grim over there what the worst thing that can happen is another cold war.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well, we know it won't be WW3. For two main reasons. Germany didn't start it, nor is it on a grand enough scale for them.

ZIIIIIIIING.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

oh come on, always with the german jokes.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It's ok little buddy, some of us know the Nazis weren't as evil as they were made out to be...  although I'm having doubts about Merkel and her psychosis with allowing migrants to destroy Europe...

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

blubb wrote:
oh come on, always with the german jokes.

Oh come on. I love Germans. <3 You dingdongs have the best sausages.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

LOL Very Happy whats a dingdong

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

blubb wrote:
LOL Very Happy whats a dingdong

In the US, it's a Hostess snack cake but that's not what I mean in this case. #Tongue

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread



you mean something like that? Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Now that's what I'm talkin" about. #Tongue

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wow, from when is this picture?
A hot sausage for only 90 cent?

Aren't DingDongs like DanCakes?

man, i love these.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Lin Kuei Ominae wrote:
Wow, from when is this picture?
A hot sausage for only 90 cent?

Aren't DingDongs like DanCakes?

man, i love these.

Takes me back... I used to eat them in school #Tongue (the cafeteria sold them for 50 cent per piece. After I saw them at a supermarket once, I knew how overpriced that was XD)

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Lin Kuei Ominae wrote:
Aren't DingDongs like DanCakes?

man, i love these.

Yeah. Kinda like that except a bit smaller.

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Well the thread has taken a turn for the tastier...

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Make cake, not war.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread


The hidden cause of WW3. Obesity.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Lin Kuei Ominae wrote:
Make cake, not war.

That is the greatest epithet ever said. Cake solves all problems... except for being fat. But other than that... cake is wonderful.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for choosing that cake! - It's my favorite cake in the USA or Germany.

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Oh dayum! I love it when these subjects get brought up!

World War 3 has been going on for quite some time now. It started shortly after the second world war ended. Its alot more covert than WWII.

Heres a nice little summary of it from insightful veterans of previous wars:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/08/09/world-war-3-how-did-we-get-here/

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The objective has always been the destruction of the Orthodox Church and the political follow on of this belief system, which is a federation where regions have autonomy but are united by a common identity. Much as the USA was originally set up as a federation of States. Today we see this system broken down by degrees in America where it now has now become a corporate fascist police state under the central body of the Fed and D.C.

The same playbook is happening in the USA today as happened in Russia during the Bolshevik Revolution, but through the slow and sure financial destruction of the middle class in that country. Thousands are unemployed due to factories being moved to China, university graduates are burdened with toxic loans that will take them a lifetime to pay off and can only find work as hamburger flippers, and the “engineered” mortage crisis of 2008 that resulted in huge losses of middle class private property ownership which is now in the hands of the banks and the private corporations. Atheism has become de regur and has been compounded by an education system that has dumbed down the general population in what is known as “common core.”

Russia on the other hand has moved away from the centralised body of a Communist system towards a Russian Federation, has brought back private property ownership and now has a growing, well educated and financially stable middle class. This all goes  back to the conflict between the Essenes (Christians) and the Sadduccees and Rome 2,000 years ago and the religious and political conflict between the Northern Kingdom of Israel and the southern Kingdom of Judah 2,700 years ago.

It is was and always has been a conflict between self empowerment and the rights of the individual entrenched in the law, basically a Constitution and Bill of Rights versus the individual being subject to an autocratic system of dictatorship and trial by ordeal. eg:

John 7:
"But this people who knoweth not the law are cursed.
Nicodemus saith unto them, (he that came to Jesus by night, being one of them,)
Doth our law judge any man, before it hear him, and know what he doeth?
They answered and said unto him, Art thou also of Galilee? Search, and look: for out of Galilee ariseth no prophet."  

Paul on the other hand, a Sadducee with Roman citizenship who was aligned with Peter and rejected by the first church under the leadership of James the Righteous, is famous for Romans 13, which gives religious justification for an autocratic state with all power held in the hands of the authorities being an Emperor,King or Pope, as opposed to a judiciary. The same playbook between the “King of the Jews,” and the Joshua’s federation of tribes.

In the Old Testament Jeremiah says, 33:31:
"But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people."

The law which protects the rights of people versus the law that is imposed on the population without due process, which is what is now happening in the USA and has become evident through the many examples of police brutality, corporate private prisons, which are basically a slave system, black sites one of which was recently exposed in Chicago, a corrupted Judiciary and the attempts at dismantling the Constitution. They might as well crucify Americans or burn them at the stake. Pick your poison.


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World War 3 is a spiritual war on many levels. How did we get here? We got here long ago when Israel broke the Covenant and demanded a King to replace a federal system of all the tribes of Israel instituted by Joshua and where the Judiciary was the highest authority not a despot.


Read the article before new years and have a ztyping ball.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/08/09/world-war-3-how-did-we-get-here/

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World War 3 ? huh, you guys are kidding right ? #Tongue the elitists already won (money, globalization, power, corruption, corporate fudes[if any], proxy wars  etc..)  the goddamn war, its just WW 4 next which will debunk them before it starts ( hopefully).

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WWIII hasn't come yet, what we have right now is a procession of mini-wars back to back in the middle east, because the "globalists" find this an easy way of destroying the world, less chance of being on the losing team.

Interestingly, there is a ton of pressure on Europe right now, they've taken all the same crazy financial manipulation that wrought havoc in America, and spun it their own economic-colonialsm way as evidenced by Greece, making a lot of people all over very unhappy. Add to this the looming trade-deals like TTIP, TISA and CETA, and people are genuinely afraid of not only cultural dismantling for the sake of the EU, but they are now afraid of giving away their sovereignty to the same greedy capitalists that screwed them over repeatedly since WWI. Then we have the additional crises of African, Pakistani, Afghani etc migrants, who unlike the Syrians don't want to go home, have poor to no education, and are generally a belligerent workforce at best, causing all sorts of ultra-nationalist movements to rise up.

We could well be witnessing the end of the EU experiment, or the destruction of the EU to move towards world government by foreign super-states. It will really depend on whether the plebians will get out the torches and pitchforks like they have in the past...

If the EU collapses, at least temporarily, so will NATO. And if ironically these pressures cause more countries to separate or throw boat anchors out from NATO to stop their silliness, that could be a big paradigm shift towards dissolving the EU. We shall see how that plays out...

As for WWIII, there's two ways we can avoid it, the first is the obvious collapse of the aggressors, which is looming large to anyone paying attention. If Saudi Arabia can't afford any more wars, or is no longer able to fund extremist mosques around Europe, then things wlil calm down. Likewise the Russian sanctions against Turkey are hurting them bigtime, and the sole reason they still have liquid capital is the smuggled terrorist oil, and their position as a clearing house for trade between Asia and Europe. The dissolution of NATO would also make war (even covert proxy war) much more expensive for America and Britain to wage, and that alone could make them move more cautiously too.

The second way to avoid WWIII, is to boot Turkey from NATO and all the duplicitous nations that are only members to serve America's bidding. Then invite Russia, and all _rational_ countries, Kazakhstan, China, India, Indonesia, and maybe Belarus. This would stalemate the aggressive parties as there would be too many relationships between members.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

What you also don't know, I heard that C&C Generals 2 was cancelled because world war 3 will begin in 2020 if generals 2 is existed, according to generals 2 story and missions.

This had happened to generals and zero hour, GLA's story and missions are extremely similar to what ISIS, ISIL or Daesh did in 2013.

Stories takes place in:
C&C Generals & Zero Hour: 2013 - GLA Assaults, ISIS spreaded in syria and iraq, like what happened in the game.
C&C Generals 2: 2020 - GLA Assaults, The World War 3 beginning.

Link to the Mod: http://www.moddb.com/mods/command-conquer-generals-2

However, There is a mod called Generals 2, same things from the cancelled game, If we Never Take this mod's missions or campaigns down, The WW3 may be REAL in the future. This is TRUE & NOT FALSE, I wanted to report the mod's campaigns, But i will not until anyone agree.

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