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Can someone send a demonstration of the RockAngel's Weapon?
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NucleiSplitter
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:21 am    Post subject:   Can someone send a demonstration of the RockAngel's Weapon?
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I have no idea how to get missiles to shoot smoothly one by one, and what I think could be a possible answer would be the 'Splits' logic that splits the rocket immediately after being spawned...

What do you guys think?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can make it split right after firing by ProjectileRange=0. But if you have RetargetAccuracy=1.0 then all the split will have similar trajectories which is not you want.

I think the most similar thing will be Aegis, set ROF to 0 and use Ammo/Reload/ReloadAmount
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, RetargetAcuracy=0.0 would make it go far away from the desired target right?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NucleiSplitter wrote:
So, RetargetAcuracy=0.0 would make it go far away from the desired target right?
Still have possibility to hit the right one.
Sometimes they fly out of their Range= I don't know if it's a bug
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the split have Range=5.75. Obliviously some fly out of range.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Missiles with RetargetAccuracy<100% select randomly a cell within a 7x7 area. (Ares may work differently with an even bigger area)


Thus some missiles can shoot behind the selected target and out of their actual range.
Though you can use ProjectileRange on the missiles to make sure they don't fly further than set on Range. Also good to avoid missiles following a fast target all across the map.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, but is there any way to make it select a cell within a 2x2 Area? Because 7x7 Cells would be too large for just 1 Rocket Angel to attack, but more fitting for an MLRS...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://ares-developers.github.io/Ares-docs/new/projectiles/splits.html

Maybe this?
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[Projectile]?AroundTarget= (boolean)
Whether a projectile with Splits=yes or Airburst=yes should use the area around the original target to look for new targets for each cluster. If enabled, the clusters will continue their way to the originally intended target. Otherwise, the clusters will search for new targets in the area where the projectile split up. Defaults to Splits.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atomic_Noodles wrote:
http://ares-developers.github.io/Ares-docs/new/projectiles/splits.html

Maybe this?
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[Projectile]?AroundTarget= (boolean)
Whether a projectile with Splits=yes or Airburst=yes should use the area around the original target to look for new targets for each cluster. If enabled, the clusters will continue their way to the originally intended target. Otherwise, the clusters will search for new targets in the area where the projectile split up. Defaults to Splits.

This is yes by default if Split=yes. You can notice this in my apoc pic.

Edit: The split don't fly to the back, left or right. It just spreads forwards

The problem is that RetargetRange isn't customizable. Looks like it's quite large by default.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, it's a no then? The Apoc Gif has the rockets shot out in random directions not even close to the Targeted Zone.

A 2x2 Cell Area is what I'm aiming for...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would FlakScatter not do the job? Or Innacurate?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Splits with FlakScatter? Does that even work?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Combined with Large Enough Burst with Inaccurate and FlakScatter on the Weapons/Projectiles then probably even RadialFireSegment set on the Unit.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do you even want to use Splits. Just change the image of FlakGayAGGun to missile. There is no much difference between splitting it right after firing and firing it by the unit itself since it scatters anyway

PS: FlakScatter & Inaccurate have no effect on missile.
PS2: In the apoc pic it's around target otherwise it will split to the left/right/back and all directions rather than only spreading forwards in a sector range
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