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Lin Kuei Ominae
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:44 pm    Post subject:  Protoss Carrier
Subject description: 32 facing unit
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I always liked the design and after working a long time on my own model, I recently finished a remake of the Starcraft Protoss Carrier.
This one with several design changes and not a 1:1 copy.

As usual, credit me if you release a public mod using this unit.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's pretty damn amazing, nice work!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm... Not sure I like the design of this thing, but are you sure Blizzard won't mind C&C-modders using their concept?
IIRC, someone told someone else that civilian props from SC couldn't made public because of possible issues and/or suing...

But good work, eitherway.
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Lin Kuei Ominae
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your own work with artistic freedom applied and straight copy/conversion/theft are not the same. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG This again? Copyright, copyright and ztyping copyright.
Come on, enjoy good damned SHP. Blizzard does not give crap about this in PPM, we have tons of SC assets.

LKO, nice work man, as usual, I like it. This can be awesome addition even to Yuri, some cyborgs or aliens, I mean we in YR can use it for sure. Counterpart of Kirov airship.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And... those it carries...?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I'm not a fan of the design myself, the model itself is extremely well done! What I love best is how you use of the special palette colours that are not affected by ambient lighting. Even though the colours are very limited, those plasma streams look pretty smooth Smile It's such a shame you rarely see those colours utilized by most SHP models out there.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True. The community is more in favor of VXLs, which makes sense considering how much easier they are to edit than SHPs.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Carrier has arrived!"
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A brutally modified by WW2 humans protoss ship, this doesn't look protoss at all. WHY THE HUMAN CANNONS???
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Lin Kuei Ominae
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crimsonum wrote:
What I love best is how you use of the special palette colours that are not affected by ambient lighting. Even though the colours are very limited, those plasma streams look pretty smooth Smile It's such a shame you rarely see those colours utilized by most SHP models out there.

yeah for that i had to use my newly developed tool Image Shaper, since it was impossible to get such effects done with any other tool.
In SHP Builder in the past, i had to do several very annoying intermediate steps to get something like this done and in the end still had a high chance of mismatched colors and bad pixel.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, good job. Gonna find a way to put it in my space gamemode. #Tongue
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LKO, you made me log in to say good job. I assume that the only way to get a unit not to display Anti Aliasing is doing a huge render?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh hey, nice to see you. Thought already about contacting you, as this unit might be useful for your mod/game.

What do you mean?
This unit is anti-aliased. It was rendered in exactly this size, with anti-aliasing on. (see the raw frames)
Only the tiny point lights on the tip of the antennae are made in a non-anti-aliased render pass.
The different render passes were then combined to one SHP using Image Shaper
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's perfect,but why the first frame is not north,it's TS feature?

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Lin Kuei Ominae
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's how the 32 facing hack for the TS engine needs the 32 facing SHP units to be.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great work

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holyyy motherboly!!!
I like it, its freaky!

Can Use for cncnet?

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Lin Kuei Ominae
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes and no
yes, it's a public asset
no, cncnet doesn't has 32 facing hack applied and until not all vanilla TS SHP vehicles are converted to 32 facings, the hack can not be applied without breaking the original 8 facing SHP vehicles.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can always make a TS-exclusive version of Ares DLL #Tongue Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TAK02 wrote:
You can always make a TS-exclusive version of Ares DLL #Tongue Laughing


Do It Now!!!!!!! Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roger that.
Alex, give me the source code Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i may be wrong, but i think Ares 32 facing for SHPs is exclusive as well, meaning when enabled, the 8 facing SHP wont work anymore like the TS 32 facing hack.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ares supports 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, etc facings, you can specify which one per unit using the Facings= tag.
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Lin Kuei Ominae
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ui, nice.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With Ares the starting frame is still north too BTW, so I'd suggest compiling a new 32 fame version for RA2 uses. Ares also gives you the ability to make flying aircraft carriers, so this unit would be more appealing to RA2 modders.
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Lin Kuei Ominae
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just rearrange the raw frames. it's quicker than 30-40min to render that unit again.
With Image Shaper you could do the rearrangement in the tool before converting it.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

excellent work!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

but
arent post TD games locked to have non SHP air units
and even if it hovers it won't tilt ?

(btw excelent work)
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are and I don't think it really needs to tilt in RA2+ as it has BalloonHover, not sure if you have to jumpet for TS.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AircraftTypes in RA2 have to be voxels otherwise you run into an IE, but Jumpjet VehicleTypes can still be SHPs as far as I know. A floating carrier such as this would fall into the latter category.

Very interesting to know that Ares made floating carriers spawn correctly though, I never noticed that in the changelogs. I may just have to find a way to use that.

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