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Is Ares an engine in itself?
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Millennium
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:01 pm    Post subject:  Is Ares an engine in itself? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This may just be me nitpicking again, but I've recently seen a very nice tree-a-gram depicting the lineage of the Quake engine and this has made me wonder; for archivarial purposes, I would like to know under which engine I should consider my mods to be running. Are mods written for Ares running on the Red Alert 2 engine? Can Ares be considered an engine in itself, at least once a Red Alert 2 engine it has been injected to is running? I know how Ares works, that is, I have an idea of what it is pre-injection, and how it interacts with the Red Alert 2 engine, and I am pretty sure that it cannot be called an engine at least in its non-injected form - what I am unsure about is the terminology to classify what it actually is, pre-injection and while running.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It's not an engine itself it's simply an addition/modification of the RA2 engine. Think of it as an expansion or mod.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Alternativaly, think of Ares-'engine' as what RA2's engine is when compared to TS's and YR's engine. Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ares is technically a virus: It infects another program, writes itself into memory, checks user data (rules.ini) while running in the infected program and changes the host program while running.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

A very benevolent and kinda likable virus, yes. Wink

The engine is WW's Yuri's Revenge engine. It's just amended with a thousand features and bugfixes, but Ares is not an engine itself.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

AlexB wrote:
Ares is not an engine itself.

Then fix that Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm pretty sure that's barred by the legal status of the engine. Now, if it ever was to be made OS...

In any case, thanks for the replies!

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