I'm a n00b, and I generally admit to being so...

RB123 · Civilian **Joined**: 06 Sep 2006

... but then, i do enjoy playing on Red Alert 2. By now, however, I've completed the single player missions for both sides, won and lost countless matches and used and abused every unit available in the game proper.

So, i've played with a few mods. Most of the ones i've wanted to use are available only for Yuri's Revenge, which I don't have. I'm a jobless, penniless bum at the minute, so I can't really afford it (and yes, I do know how cheap it probably is).

I've also played around with the TibEd editor, which was fun for a while, Tesla Cows vs Prism Monkeys, etc, but again, it's overused and now quite limited.

So, what i'm looking for is some sort of editor (obviously freeware) which allows one to create new units. Now, i'm a complete n00b when it comes to computing, and I understand a page full of code about as well as your granny does, or perhaps significantly worse if she still has all her marbles intact.

So, does such a program exist which allows you to create new units, structures, defensive weapons etc, very, very easily, perhaps from templates maybe? Which then gradually teaches you how to get more serious and build from scratch?

I really want to create my own version of Blitzkrieg but for RA2, ideally, sort of like Real RA2, but with my own touch and a little more extensive. I prefer a more real to life, big machine guns and old fashioned artillery rather than this flashy Chrono/Tesla/Prism nonesense.

Thanks in advance.

Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

You aren't considered as a noob until you act like one.

The best way I can come up with is just to hand-edit the rules inis. First, of course, you must extract them from the mix file. I don't know much about editing Red Alert 2, but I guess the ini files are pretty similar to Tiberian Sun's. You can start by reading the tutorials in the main menu of ppmsite, if you come up with questions, be sure to post them in the correct forums.

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RB123 · Civilian **Joined**: 06 Sep 2006

Thanks for that, i'll check it out.

Yuri 06 wrote:

if you come up with questions, be sure to post them in the correct forums.

Was this a subtle hint to indicate my initial question isn't in the correct forum?

Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

no, not at all

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RB123 · Civilian **Joined**: 06 Sep 2006

Hmm, ok, after quite a bit of reading and research, i've discovered that what i'm really looking for is to create my own voxels... So, to reiterate my original question properly, is there something that will help me to design new voxels?

(PS, I will eventually want to incorporate these voxels into the game, however, for info on this I might as well follow the 'Getting Started' thread posted by the chap in a none too disimilar boat to mine).

RB123 · Civilian **Joined**: 06 Sep 2006

Ok, i've found a few voxel editors... I have no idea how to use them though. Is there anything that comes with, for lack of a better word, templates?

Argh, I can't explain what I mean, but there probably isn't an easy way to to this, is there?

However, no matter how much I try to read up on this, i'm never going to understand altering .ini files and the like, i'm just not that way inclined. It's all just a bunch of meaningless, random letters and numbers to me. I'll have more luck trying to see the blonde, brunette and redhead in the Matrix code.

Should I just give up now?

John Galt · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:57 am Post subject:

Firstly, there is a difference between a noob and a newbie. You are a newbie.

Secondly, all this talk about "can't understand code" is crap. If you just look at the INI files and use your gray matter a little, you will definitely understand a fair portion. I mean, the INIs are in plain English, not Klingon.

And to edit voxels, you should probably start by opening one of the existing voxels in the editor and messing with it. It's pretty simple once you've spent some time with it. (You'll need XCC Mixer to get the existing voxels/INI files out of the game. But you should start with just INI files, that's easier. So, XCC Mixer > Ctrl-F > rules.ini and extract it.)

Or, alternatively, if you have some 3D modelling program, you should be able to model something in it and convert that to voxel later.

Clarkson · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:46 am Post subject:

rulesmd.ini? Hes running RA2, DC.

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John Galt · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:17 am Post subject:

Oops... my bad, was still thinking about the thread I had just replied to before, by cdtmx or someone similar. Well, post edited, no harm done.