Also Known As: banshee_revora (Steam) Joined: 15 Aug 2002 Location: Brazil
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:08 am Post subject:
That random thought of the day: 9/11 and our Nod jokes.
Subject description: A rare serious note about all sarcasm included on this site.
Hello, ladies and gentlemen!
Today's words are serious and have no sarcasm included, so read on. While some of you might not see any sense to put this kind of message, believe, this warning must exist somewhere. All of you must be aware that Project Perfect Mod is a fan site that covers Command & Conquer modding activities. As such, we cover news, provide a friendly environment for the development of mods and we play with the Command & Conquer universe. As 99% of you are aware, the Command and Conquer games are rated for 13 years old people or older, depending on the country you live at. However, most of you might be aware that a considerable ammount of people who visit this and other Command and Conquer fan sites are younger people.
When I post news, I don't care at under aged people. Really, I don't. I expect that those who visit this site are able to separate fiction from reality. When you register in the forum and you are under 13, the forum asks for your parents authorization. Anyway, I can post thousands of fake Nod propagandas, make mockery of capitalism, communism, many politics subjects and EA, of course... EA is a common target of my sarcastic remarks. Dispite these jokes, I'm capitalist, because I believe socialism is an utopy and people are different, although I personally believe that state should be more present on people's life. Afterall, we should have freedom with responsability.
So, I can like Nod in the fiction, but I'd hate them if they were real, just as I hate any terrorist organization and I'm against all wars. Let's be honest here: these people who provoke wars doesn't think on the lives of their soldiers, from the enemies (obvious), neither from those who are in the middle of the battlefield. Don't you think that muslims died in the NY twin towers 5 years ago? Why did brazilians and all other inocent people die in the Isreal vs Hezbollah war on Lebanon? Even many american soldiers returned home with their mind completely disturbed from the war on Iraq. Where is the respect here? Where is the responsability?
Of course there is no danger on doing this in a PC game, since you'd be 'killing' bytes, but murder, robery and related actions are crime everywhere in the world. Don't blame a game, if someone does it. It's pathetic. If a person receives proper education at home, the person will be able to distuinguish real life from games.
Another interesting remark is that Nod, as a religion in the fiction, is fueled by the faith of the brotherhood on Kane, the messiah. Faith is another dangerous thing, because it's a way to hide you the reality. In the fiction, people believe that Kane will bring them unity, brotherhood and peace. But Kane's real plans is to send a tiberium bomb into the world to envolve the mankind into 'an advanced specie' with a substance that is toxic and even lethal to them. It's nice to know that it's just a fiction, but faith was also fuel of many crimes in the world, made by people of any religion, where people even suicided and killed a mass of unknown people for a 'cause'. These people barely valued their own lives, which is a very sad thing. Life is a bless, not a weapon for mass destruction. For these reasons, I (and a lot of people) usually question what we are doing, what we are told to do and what is around us. Don't let the faith control you, as it can take you into a dangerous future where you may have no return.
Anyway, I'd like to request everyone a minute to think about this subject and do one minute of silence for those who were killed on any terrorist attack from London, to Spain, USA and in these latest wars like Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Israel/Palestine, etc, as there are many others that I haven't mentioned.
Peace and Love,
~ Banshee (and this is a picture of me, believe it or not... I'm that ugly dude below)
Last edited by Banshee on Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:47 am; edited 3 times in total QUICK_EDIT
lol, Banshee looks funny.
Joking aside, I'm sure everyone here knows that Nod does terrible things, but honestly, I do believe in a few of their ideals, because at the core, Kane is simply copying the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Shi_Huangdi">King of Qin[/url]. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
good read and i well agree fighting should be only a video game thing not real life thing we have no more room for war.
goble warming must be stoped it should be a the number one thing because it effects us all. _________________ Link to a document to see what mods i have and/or working on or working with
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Thanks for the post Banshee, it was good to see.
As was seeing you .
The points raised were good, and I agree. I sometimes question where this world is heading to.
And Raptor, you maybe right, but it doesn't mean you completely dismiss it and let it come. _________________ If there is a problem on the forums, PM me. QUICK_EDIT
this damn world is going to hell. American government intervents countries ignoring UN decision, Israel wipes out south Lebanon cities without declaring war, killing lots of terrorists & civilians, post-Soviet countries want to drain money from Russia for mythical occupation (while didn't realising they owe us several times more), religious fanatics blow up everything and so on.
We should be united, without dividing world on good and bad guys. Think it over - Nod may be evil terrorist faction for one, but may be a salvation for another. We should stop create imaginary enemies around the globe. At last, we must negotiate instead of dealing with brute force like we do now. This corresponds to ALL nations, including so-called "world leaders".
Yes, I speak from the position of TEH BAD COMMIE, but this doesn't mean I'm not right. Like it was said in one song by Sting, "We share the same biology regardless of ideology". Just read it. I do not insist in taking my opinion as the One and Only. Think whatever you want. Just think...
What about the WTC, it is a tragedy. The American government paid a huge price for their mistakes. Many lives, wasted by the politicians who didn't do their job as they MUST.
What about the Pentagon - there is too much strange things that show this was an unusual case. The government doesn't say the truth, anyway.
This was said by Ukrainian, who In Washington that day.
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А потом, американцы наверное в первый раз в жизни задумались за что же их так не любят в мире. Мне лично задавали эти вопросы. Я не пытался им объяснить. Это бесполезно. Пробить американскую пропаганду невозможно. Нереально. Они уверены, что они благодать для мира. Американцы до сих пор не могут понять почему жители Белграда их так ненавидят. Жители Ирака. Жители Ливии.
А через полгода все пришло в норму. Паника прошла. Появилась опять самоуверенность. Афганистан в очередной раз лежит в руинах. Ни одного настоящего виновника терактов не найдено. Все ок. До следующего раза.
translation: After that, the Americans for the first time in their life thought, why they are hated in the world. I was personally asked. I didn't try to answer. It is useless. You cannot break their propaganda. Impossible. They still think they are the salvation for this world. The Americans don't know why citizens of Belgrad hate them. Citizens of Iraq, citizens of Lybia.
In half a year everything became normal. The panic went away. Their self-confidence came back. Afghanistan again lies in ruins. No real terrorists were found. Everything is OK. Until the next time...
but he does regret for the deaths of innocent people. Again I should say the governments are to blame , not mythical terrorists or something like them. _________________
Sealab 2021 wrote:
Marco: So you rigged the OFF button with a tear gas grenade? Ho ho ho, you magnificent bastard!
Sparks: Oh, that's nothin', man. The ON button is a 50-megaton hydrogen bomb.
reality:
america fucked others so others fucked america, so why feel sorry for them ?
yep civilians died bla bla bla... still us people (most of them) are too cocky toward rest of world, atleast they get smack in face from time to time.
and that sick words "god bless america" are sooo lame
read the bold fragment in my previous post. Unfortunately, everything is in the way this Ukrainian said. The Americans will never think about how people in the world treat them before they lose a skyscraper or two... _________________
Sealab 2021 wrote:
Marco: So you rigged the OFF button with a tear gas grenade? Ho ho ho, you magnificent bastard!
Sparks: Oh, that's nothin', man. The ON button is a 50-megaton hydrogen bomb.
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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:49 pm Post subject:
I couldn't agree more, Banshee. Especially about the point 'education'. Many people blame computer games for problems that the parents are responsible for.
It's simply easier to say "oh, these evil video games! they have a bad effect on my childs!" instead of "since the birth of my childs I try to educate them, and now I have to admit I have totally failed! Damnit!" QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject:
You are ugly!
Relax-I have to live in America - still I'm happy to do so! Although I hate allies in RA2(They seem to be only americans!) _________________ DUNK! QUICK_EDIT
Being an American, of course i take offense to all the 'merican haters.
But being that my country is one of the hot-ends of the rod this generation, its to be expected.
What everyone forgets, is that America is not as politcally united as the politicans like to boast about, which is kind of embarassing for them to do so. The only thing we have ever really been about, and the only thing the "founding fathers" of this country really evisioned, was that everyone in these boarders can do what they want when they want as long as its in reason of law and the justice system.
I doubt highly that the "Founding Fathers" of America were very into forign politics as well. To be frank, back then when our constitution was written, we basically wanted to be left alone and leave everyone else alone outside of trade and commerce.
Unfortunatly, some people cause bumps in the road, like in any country. The bad part is that these events created new laws, that sometimes are very good in one way, but not so great in others. These laws are often exploited by current-generation politicans, and then they contine to exploit ourselves and exploit other countries to shape the US, and eventually the world, into thier religous ideals.
Anyways, im not going to write a huge inspiring post about Americans. What I wrote this was to tell you that these last couple of generations of political parties and presidents have not exactly been the best ones. My point is that the actual population of America is much different from my expericnces, although yes, there are some idiot ignorant people who listin to the media exactly as told because they are either uneducated or just have a lack in anything else to belive in.
We as Americans are proud of our ability to allow anyone to have the chance to suceed, and the freedoms that we offer to everyone (not saying there are corrupt influencual companies in this nation, and im not saying that other countries dont allow other people freedoms). We are not proud of foul exploits our politicans speak for us many times. The ratings for Bush for example are 48% support, and 52% of the population oppose him strongly.
What I want for this coutnry is for us to leave everyone alone outside of trade (and i guess NATO/UN), and for everyone to respect our descion. Of course i dont think this will ever happen, because Presidents and politcal parties these days seeiming only care about publicity, so they try to pluck at the right cords to get themselves to look soo good. Its kinda cocky, and very dangerous on ourselves and other people, but thats the situation I think this country is in at this current generation of politcal leaders.
Fortunatly many people are tired of these foul practices by the people who falsely represent us for the most part, and hopefully the next generation of leaders wont be so "power hungry" and "media whores". QUICK_EDIT
Israel wipes out south Lebanon cities without declaring war, killing lots of terrorists & civilians,
After hezbollah (Which is a section of iraqs government) Fored 600 katusha missles at israeli cities - targeting entirely civilians. The reaon why israeli civvie casualties are so low, is because they've had time to prepare bomb shelters. They actually do leaflet drops on prospective targets, warning everyone to leave. sometimes days before the actual bombing. Just to try and get the innocents out.
Unfortunately, war leads to casualties.
I still can't see the point in bringing this up, banshee. Discussions on forums don't exactly do anything important. It just divides the forums up into 2 or 3 sides, and starts flame wars... etc. _________________
[quote="Lt A1br3cht"]Kill it with fire!!!!!!!!!!![/quote] QUICK_EDIT
I couldn't agree more, Banshee. Especially about the point 'education'. Many people blame computer games for problems that the parents are responsible for.
It's simply easier to say "oh, these evil video games! they have a bad effect on my childs!" instead of "since the birth of my childs I try to educate them, and now I have to admit I have totally failed! Damnit!"
Exactly.
Look at me. I'm 14, have been playing violent games _ALL_ (IE, DooM at 18 months old) my life, yet.. I'm one of the lesser violent people in my school.
Why?
I play games. They give me somewhere to vent my frustrations.
And yes, Americans do think they're better than everyone. I do slightly. But I'm one of the smarter ones, I control that feeling. That Ukranian is right.
*mutters about stupid Americans* _________________ "Banned" RP here QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:29 pm Post subject:
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After hezbollah (Which is a section of iraqs government)
Hezbollah is a group who wishes for the elimination of Israel and the creation of a purely Islam Lebanon. They are NOT affiliated with the Iraqis, and are supported by the Iranians (although not a part of them).
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They actually do leaflet drops on prospective targets, warning everyone to leave. sometimes days before the actual bombing. Just to try and get the innocents out.
They also warned people in some cities that, if seen travelling around a city, they would be shot. Stay in buildings and get bombed, or go outside and get shot?
As well, the Israeli forces used phosphorus-based weapons, which is against international law. _________________
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This is sexier than what this forum was supposed to tolerate. - Banshee
Hezbollah is a minority partner in the current Cabinet, holding two (and endorsing a third) cabinet positions.
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They also warned people in some cities that, if seen travelling around a city, they would be shot. Stay in buildings and get bombed, or go outside and get shot?
As well, the Israeli forces used phosphorus-based weapons, which is against international law.
1:Where did you find this?
2:So does hizbollah. Find out about that on wikipedia. I can't actually find any hard reports on israel using them, though... _________________
[quote="Lt A1br3cht"]Kill it with fire!!!!!!!!!!![/quote] QUICK_EDIT
hmmm nice little paragraph there banshee. i liked it. and i may even quote you when you said
Banshee wrote:
Don't let the faith control you, as it can take you into a dangerous future where you may have no return.
as i completely agree with that and i have a friend that lets her faith pull her a little too far IMO.....
as for this debate.........im gonna stay out of it.......i dont wanna get dragged into this _________________ Kalistia Crestland (2)
In Soviet Russia, grass grows on tiberium! QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:06 am Post subject:
Jeeves wrote:
"against international law"
Please tell me your not American.
There are laws against using chemical and biological weapons. America hasn't actually signed some of the laws against using these as weapons, which can cause horrific and painful deaths for people who are in the blast radius. It causes chemical burns and, because it is airbourne, can be breathed in and will cause severe injury inside.
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1:Where did you find this?
It was during the raid on Tyre. I heard about it on the TV, but you can find it mentioned here.
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2:So does hizbollah. Find out about that on wikipedia. I can't actually find any hard reports on israel using them, though...
Wikipedia doesn't say this:
Amnesty International condemned both Hezbollah and Israel for attacks on civilians, in addition to the reported use of white phosphorus by the IDF.
The source of the comment goes into a bit more detail. _________________
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This is sexier than what this forum was supposed to tolerate. - Banshee
I have lived in America my entire life. So have my parents, and their parents.
The thought of someone hating an entire nation and all of its inhabitants individually is, to me, completely absurd. I do not hate everyone in Iraq or the middle east. I do hate people high in our government though.
Wouldn't you hate men who staged an attack upon their OWN country for the purpose of wealth and power? Those that would kill thousands for the excuse to kill millions and make billions of dollars in the process. For those of you confused, I believe that not only did the American government have the knowledge and ability to stop the attacks of September 11th, but that they themselves took part in the planning and attacking of the World Trace Center.
Type "loose change" into Google and do a little browsing.
I'm not here to cram anything down anyones throat. I simply feel obligated to share knowledge. QUICK_EDIT
A.) Job Outsourcing
B.) Canada whoops poor America in Violence levels over all.
C.) Wait..CANADA OWNS US IN VIOLENCE LEVELS?! DAMN IT!
*Leaves America* :B _________________ ... QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:31 am Post subject:
Sk8erkid wrote:
I have lived in America my entire life. So have my parents, and their parents.
The thought of someone hating an entire nation and all of its inhabitants individually is, to me, completely absurd. I do not hate everyone in Iraq or the middle east. I do hate people high in our government though.
Wouldn't you hate men who staged an attack upon their OWN country for the purpose of wealth and power? Those that would kill thousands for the excuse to kill millions and make billions of dollars in the process. For those of you confused, I believe that not only did the American government have the knowledge and ability to stop the attacks of September 11th, but that they themselves took part in the planning and attacking of the World Trace Center.
Type "loose change" into Google and do a little browsing.
I'm not here to cram anything down anyones throat. I simply feel obligated to share knowledge.
Even though I lost an uncle in that attack... this post is eerily disturbing, yet it seems to have some traces of truth... in a sense of speaking. but then again, WHY would people attack thier own? it just doesn't seem logical.. the idea of making the country more wealthy wont work, as there's billions in damages, war effort, and several dozen federal offices were there too... The logic is wierd but eerily familiar...
wow i just totally confused myself with my wording _________________ "Reality is a lovely place, but I wouldn't want to live there." -Adam Young QUICK_EDIT
Type "loose change" into Google and do a little browsing.
Also look up "Moon landing hoax" while you're at it. And "Roswell conspiracy". And about eleventy gajillion more conspiracy theories about the US government. Then start wearing tinfoil armour in addition to your tinfoil hat. For those confused, I'm calling you a paranoid conspiracy theorist.
Offtopic, sorry.
Dreadlord wrote:
post-Soviet countries want to drain money from Russia for mythical occupation (while didn't realising they owe us several times more)
We owe you what, exactly? You waltzed in here and assumed control of our countries, remember? Next thing you know America is going to cry Iraq owes them something... Oh wait... QUICK_EDIT
post-Soviet countries want to drain money from Russia for mythical occupation (while didn't realising they owe us several times more)
We owe you what, exactly? You waltzed in here and assumed control of our countries, remember? Next thing you know America is going to cry Iraq owes them something... Oh wait...
Thats way off topic, keep it elsewhere...like the crap forum.
Banshee, think a split is needed to keep old flames from lighting up the timber... _________________ ... QUICK_EDIT
So if there was a family on your street, that tells everybody that the way they are running the household is wrong, the way they are bringing up their kids is wrong and that their way is the only acceptable way, then you will be a bit annoyed. What the difference in America going around telling everybody that they can do this, can't do that and that their way is the only acceptable way, and if you are not with them then your the enemy?
I am not against Americans in general, however, I am annoyed at people talking about globalisation. Some lecturer tried to to convince me that Americanisation is just a myth. Well, thank you 'mrs.' phd, all I see are American shows on T.V., half of our news is about America, eveything is freaken american.
P.S. I am from Australia
I have to keep telling people over here that color is spelt 'colour' and that saying maths is not bad english (since we call math maths over here).
Also Americans go on about their 4 year B.Sc. degrees, and don't accept 3yr ones as being proper degrees. I learnt this during my time at the Joel Spolsky forums. Phhtttttt^99. It doesn't take much time to realise that in the UK and Australia that a 200 level american college course is a 100 over here.
For example:
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MATH3401 - Systems of DEs is in America (lamar) - 3rd level
Our equivilent is:
MATH2010 (uq) - second level
cs312 - Algorithms and data structures (cornell) - 3rd level
Our equivilent is:
COMP2502(uq) - second level
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject:
"We're all living in America" -Rammstein (America).
Im gonna finish my studies quickly and emigrate to Japan...
hopefully i will be able to do that within a year or 6 (and not change my mind in the meantime). _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
First, I'll admit that I don't watch anything on the media regarding 9/11. Frankly, I get sick of it very quickly... and no, I am not distant from the suffering of that day; I won't bore anyone with details and really, I doubt anyone cares. I don't remember much of what I thought or felt that day, maybe it's not that important anyway. But I never imagined this one event would have even more disastrous consequences than I could ever have imagined, and in retrospect I am utterly ashamed that I initially believed it... the 9/11 story, the war on "terror," everything... how utterly ignorant one can be.
And finally, in that same year, I realized that I could never trust such a government as that under which I lived (and live). If the leaders of the United States don't pay regard to even its founding values (Hawaii? Iran? Cuba? Imperialism, Cold War, modern invasions, overthrow of democracies, secret assassinations, anyone?) when found so respectably in other nations, would they really even respect me, a lowly consumer? Well, two is a party. After all, I am not proud to be an American. I cannot "support the troops" when I don't support the war, I cannot be patriotic when it's a dangerous and destructive fantasy in which to indulge, I cannot believe any such campaigns of BS when they only try to blind me to American greed and subjegation of the greater world.
So take a gander at the list of soldiers killed in Iraq, and tell me for what they really died. Liberation? Democracy? Morality? Hardly. Yet this has been an tragic trend for the past century. "Our boys were sent off to die with beautiful ideals painted in front of them. No one told them that dollars and cents were the real reason they were marching off to kill in die," General Smedley Butler remarked in 1934 after retiring from a celebrated military career. "I spent 33 years and 4 months in active military service... And during that period I spent most of my time as a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism."
ChielScape wrote:
Im gonna finish my studies quickly and emigrate to Japan...
"We're all living in America" -Rammstein (America).
The full variant of chorus in this song is:
We're all living in Amerika,
Amerika ist wundebar
We're all living in Amerika,
Amerika, Amerika
We're all living in Amerika,
Coca-Cola, sometimes war,
We're all living in Amerika,
Amerika, Amerika...
the spelling of the word "Amerika" is German, although it is sang in English.
this song is a huge joke made to laugh at everything USA messed with.
Just watch its video a bit more attentively
As far as I know, "Amerika" was popular in USA, but it was forbidden after an old German called to the radio station and translated it into english )) _________________
Sealab 2021 wrote:
Marco: So you rigged the OFF button with a tear gas grenade? Ho ho ho, you magnificent bastard!
Sparks: Oh, that's nothin', man. The ON button is a 50-megaton hydrogen bomb.
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:30 am Post subject:
Well, as an American that has lived here my whole life (in fact I haven't moved from the house I'm in since I was born), I agree with Sk8erkid on everything but the part about the government taking part in the attack. Our government is really crappy, I know, but they aren't THAT bad. And for all the Bush-haters out there, just remember that the government is doing the string-pulling here and Bush is taking all the blame. He's not the best president, I'll admit, but even though he discusses (mostly) serious matters on TV, he's entertaining when he does speak. There are flaws in my argument, I know, but I'm not 'painting with a full can' tonight, and it's just what I think. _________________
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That random thought of the day: 9/11 and our Nod jokes.
j/k
(if says mobile, talk anyway)
