@Dubzac58: I don't think you are one to talk. Especialy when you have the Nod logo in your signature, backwards! Proof that what you're saying holds no ground.
*coughs* look at the crapy units you get for nod its like so unfair compered to gdi.
thats why i think TD sucks it was unfair form the begaining im glade they fixed that in TS and maybe in C&C3.
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and about my sig yes the nod symbol is backwards but its for a reason my mod TS : DOTL its not the same like TS its far balanced then that exeuss for a game in my veiw scrin is crap compered to my units but this ain't moding like your use to no far better ..far more units far more ways to kill ..i use the player's mind just that little more.
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Im not sure who are making this mod.. but there was one.
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Damnit Carno.. how=who.. That was a mistype. Fixed now.
And no. i dont have any link.. i was just not interested in it. Probably now it is dead, or something, that could explane why nobody knows about it. _________________ Gangster is a Project Perfect Wuj (c)Aro QUICK_EDIT
well mine was based on the most popuar mod called ts gold which IMO was THE BEST MOD ever in terms of gameplay and profromace
ok mine is bigger at 48.2MB at current but i think westwood be pleased new music and new units with a new side
but we ain't talking about mods are we, where talking about TD
what i want to know is why deos everyone still love it my guess it this its because it started it all.
thats it i mean most people i know think about the cut sences and music not the game play ...no matter how advanced it was at the time its nothing compered to the great mods of today ..take for example ROTD thats a TD remake but do we really care ?.
...my answer is not really
my message is this, let EA do there job then jude its not out yet im ashamed after all they have done you guys don't care in keeping Comand and conquer alive shame on you shame on you. _________________ Link to a document to see what mods i have and/or working on or working with
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well mine was based on the most popuar mod called ts gold which IMO was THE BEST MOD ever in terms of gameplay and profromace
From what I remember, TS Gold simply added a lot of extra units, I can't say much on the balancing, but with the amount of units added, I'd say balancing would have been hard..
Dubzac58 wrote:
ok mine is bigger at 48.2MB at current but i think westwood be pleased new music and new units with a new side
Adding new features isn't everything. Far from it.
Dubzac58 wrote:
but we ain't talking about mods are we, where talking about TD
what i want to know is why deos everyone still love it my guess it this its because it started it all.
There is nothing wrong with TD.
Dubzac58 wrote:
*coughs* look at the crapy units you get for nod its like so unfair compered to gdi.
That was, actually one of the great things of TD, although you took it the completely wrong way. What made TD great was the two sides were completely different. GDI, you could have a few units which were powerful, where as Nod had weaker ones, but cheaper so you could build more. You had to deploy different tactics for different sides. It wasn't simply the same build list for each side with different graphics, it was different build lists, different units, different tactics.
Nod wasn't any less powerful, you just had to use them differently. And the fact that you consider Nod crappy and unfair, shows you didn't know how to play them.
People say that Nod is weak and crappy in TS. But its simply because they don't know how to play with Nod. Nod is actually the superior side.. if you know what you're doing. But with GDI.. you can just build up a swarm of Titans or Orca Bombers and sweep away the enemy. Simple. (Granted GDI has extra tactics you can use, if you so choose). Nod, you can't do that. Does that make them weaker? Well, only to those who can't use their brains a little more than just building endless tanks..
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thats it i mean most people i know think about the cut sences and music not the game play ...no matter how advanced it was at the time its nothing compered to the great mods of today ..take for example ROTD thats a TD remake but do we really care ?.
...my answer is not really
Why? Because the mods look better?
The reason why TD rocked so much, was because it was original, because the story was great, and it emersed you.
Graphics isn't everything. Having a huge amount of units isn't everything. Strategy, tactics and the gameplay are what make it. Yes there are a lot of mods which do well here, but most are based off the original games anyway.
This series is the RTS series. Real. Time. Strategy. Thats basically saying, you think up strategies and tactics to defeat your enemy. But also changing and adapting to how the enemy works. You change in "Real Time", as you play. If he does one thing, you do another to counter it, and so on. You think, you strategise, you deploy tactics.
Granted, rushing is a tactic. Building up 40 titans is a tactic. But its not a very original one. And doing the same thing over and over just sucks. Its boring. Fine, you win that way. Wow, go you.
But the game isn't all about winning. If you want to win with one tactic, thats fine. You'll grow bored in 2 seconds.
What this series should be about, at least for me, is trying different things. It's about out-thinking your opponent. It's about strategising and working. Doing something crazy, wild, and it works. Or thinking something through right the way through the game and pulling it off. That is what keeps these games going. Thats where the real thrill is, and thats what I see the point as for these "Real Time Strategy" games.
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my message is this, let EA do there job then jude its not out yet im ashamed after all they have done you guys don't care in keeping Comand and conquer alive shame on you shame on you.
I believe Ackron once said "I'd rather not have another CNC at all, then let EA kill it with another one" or something like that.
I hated RA2. I hated its cartooniness. People will argue it was still Westwood, yes, but it was a different development team, and it was still rushed by EA.
I hated how TS was rushed. Granted, Westwood choose to join EA, but EA tempted them with a very persuasive offer, and I doubt many of us would have actually turned it down, if we were in the same situation. (Also, it would be a point to note that this joining of EA wasn't a hit with everyone at Westwood...) Still, EA then choose to control Westwood rather than simply let them continue with what they were originally doing.
EA is concerned about money, and time is money. Westwood succeeded before, because they took the time to make it. Granted, perhaps a bit too much time occasionally, but it more or less worked out.
And I've never really touched Generals, as I don't consider it a CNC. Its an RTS, and many will argue its a good one, and I can't say much about it, as I've never played it. But I know its not a Command and Conquer game, the title just used to bring in more attention.
I think more and more, TW is proving to be more like an actual Command and Conquer. It is shaping up to be one, and I don't think we can really say much against it. Many will argue, you always do.. but if you really think about it. It is becoming a Command and Conquer.
The Tiberium.. kinda weird.. but.. if you skip TS, and go with TD before it was truely explained.. its not so different.
And the units.. heck everything Mike Verdu has been saying, is this game is a sequel to Tiberian Dawn. It fits, it works. We may not like the name.. or the look or whatever, but its a sequel in its own right.
What I really don't like about TW, is it is not a sequel to Tiberian Sun. It skips TS entirely, for its own convience. And thats what I hate about it.
I'm not saying about the gameplay etc, and no one else can really either.
Its okay to judge it when it comes out.. but already its blatently clear that its not a sequel to Tiberian Sun, and that is what is getting people annoyed. _________________ If there is a problem on the forums, PM me. Last edited by Muldrake on Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:05 am; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
GDI build titan some orca bomber and blow up a GDI base. Nod is more heardy too kill if you know the tactics some muldrake say. _________________ Can you hide from me ? QUICK_EDIT
ok muldake i'll get the point ..EA started C&C3 for a reason most problery to restart again.
form TS with most of the hero's killed and the tatics now unreadable thanks to both gdi and nod the story has got room to start again.
@Muldrake
unlike ackron who can't forgive...i can and if you won't stand with me you alone are the enemy of command and conquer i can't beleave you call you self a fan after what you say here, give them a chance thats all im saying.
if they fail us then they shall die by the hand of kane
i don't care anymore if that shall be the case.
but untill then i will not jude although you press that i and the rest of the clan say fail , should i sugest you keep a open mind..we shall not jude them failures... untill the time not yet my freind this is not the time. _________________ Link to a document to see what mods i have and/or working on or working with
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Actually they wont die by the Hand of Kane, Joe's getting a good amount of money to reprise the role of the Messiah, and he does other EA work, too. _________________ PPM's Reichstrollfuherer, 236th Trollenparties brigade. QUICK_EDIT
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Dubzac58 wrote:
i can and if you won't stand with me you alone are the enemy of command and conquer i can't beleave you call you self a fan after what you say here, give them a chance thats all im saying.
Wow. Sounds quite hypocritical from someone that just said he thinks the original game sucks. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
[quote="Dubzac58"]ok muldake i'll get the point ..EA started C&C3 for a reason most problery to restart again.
form TS with most of the hero's killed and the tatics now unreadable thanks to both gdi and nod the story has got room to start again.
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Erm.. its a sequel. Why should they need to start again? Why start a fresh from something which is already well established and to which has a huge fanbase.
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@Muldrake
unlike ackron who can't forgive...i can and if you won't stand with me you alone are the enemy of command and conquer i can't beleave you call you self a fan after what you say here, give them a chance thats all im saying.
if they fail us then they shall die by the hand of kane
i don't care anymore if that shall be the case.
When I first found out about that Tiberium Wars was being made. I went insane. I won't say what I did, but it was completely unlike me.
CNC has been my hobby life for years, ever since TD. I played the demo to death until I could afford the game. And by then I'd played the demo so much that I completed it in a flash. (although that didn't stop me from continuing to enjoy it, and actually do it again, taking my time).
I was so hyped up about Tiberian Sun. There were many things in it which were cut out from the final release, which disappointed me, but I still love the game more than any other.
I'd say that makes me a fan if there ever was one?
And I never said I hated Tiberium Wars. I have never said that. I have said I dislike it for its apparent lack of continuity from Tiberian Sun. And that I hope it won't be rushed so badly as TS or RA2.
In the past, EA have been simply money driven. Anything directly connected to the income and outcome of the game was affected. From the outcome of costs of development spread out across a longer period of time.. to the income of reaching a wider audience by reducing technical requirements and age limitations.
But it has to be said, EA is showing some promise in changing this approach. They are listening to the fan-base more, and they making something which has potential. I still hope that it'll come out as a good game.
I haven't said EA will screw it over, but just previous games, they haven't been too promising.
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but untill then i will not jude although you press that i and the rest of the clan say fail , should i sugest you keep a open mind..we shall not jude them failures... untill the time not yet my freind this is not the time.
Muldrake wrote:
Its an RTS, and many will argue its a good one, and I can't say much about it, as I've never played it.
That should tell you that I am not one to jump to conclusions on things to which I do not really know.
I don't know what the gameplay will be like, and I don't know how the game will turn out. A part of me still hopes it'll turn out as it was.
As I said, I had disappointments with Tiberian Sun, but I still loved it. I may come to love Tiberium Wars just the same.
But I am merely saying, that so far, from what I have seen from EA's previews and discussions, it does not look like a sequel to Tiberian Sun, and for me, thats what I would really like.
I have not said they are already failures. I have not said I hate the game. And I have not said I will completely ignore the game because I feel it will suck.
They brought in Joe Kucan as Kane. And for me that was a very big thing for me. A very big thing. And its given me hope.
I will buy the game. I will judge it for itself, there and then. But I will still give my opinions on what I have seen so far. I know its not the full game, and I know it can change, but I will keep saying my opinions of it. The game is still in development, and while there is a possibility that we will be heard by the developers, I will continue to express my opinions and feelings for this game and its development.
Dubzac, please actually read and understand my posts before replying. The things you have accused me of, I never actually said. And if you ask anyone who knows me, you'll know I am of an open mind, a level-headed character who doesn't jump to conclusions. _________________ If there is a problem on the forums, PM me. QUICK_EDIT
i can and if you won't stand with me you alone are the enemy of command and conquer i can't beleave you call you self a fan after what you say here, give them a chance thats all im saying.
Wow. Sounds quite hypocritical from someone that just said he thinks the original game sucks.
@Nyerguds
just some parts in TD like game play i said nothing about the story just every thing else hell just look at how many falts there are in the game.
ie the egde of the map bug, tiberuim can't spawn ,etc
and yes i do take note on all asecpts here.
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what should tell you that I am not one to jump to conclusions on things to which I do not really know.
I don't know what the gameplay will be like, and I don't know how the game will turn out. A part of me still hopes it'll turn out as it was.
As I said, I had disappointments with Tiberian Sun, but I still loved it. I may come to love Tiberium Wars just the same.
But I am merely saying, that so far, from what I have seen from EA's previews and discussions, it does not look like a sequel to Tiberian Sun, and for me, thats what I would really like.
I have not said they are already failures. I have not said I hate the game. And I have not said I will completely ignore the game because I feel it will suck.
They brought in Joe Kucan as Kane. And for me that was a very big thing for me. A very big thing. And its given me hope.
I will buy the game. I will judge it for itself, there and then. But I will still give my opinions on what I have seen so far. I know its not the full game, and I know it can change, but I will keep saying my opinions of it. The game is still in development, and while there is a possibility that we will be heard by the developers, I will continue to express my opinions and feelings for this game and its development.
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ok muldake ..good im glade you will hold your judement as will i , i understand you have a strong emoitional ties to the game ..ok i over reacted to your opinion and now i see its logical in a sence.
Ok Tiberain dawn was good overall but its time now to move on.
i hope that the game impoves ,ok the units ain't the greatest
but we can change that by going to the C&C3 forums and complianing.
my veiw on this is if you conplian long enough you might get what you want.
ok folks maybe EA just need a direction by "us" since and i quote *EA doesn't know much about command and conquer* well what are we waiting for ? ...i think if the fans in general have a problem go talk to them.
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Move on from TD? Never :p
I'm a retro gamer and C&C1 mod maker. Especially with TFD released, interest in the older games is sparking up again. I'll still play this game in 10 years. Its simplicity compared to the new flashy full-3D games gives it a unique charm IMO.
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@Nyerguds
its your life not mine hell do what ya what ..i was just expressing my opion thats all. _________________ Link to a document to see what mods i have and/or working on or working with
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wow RA1 that brings me back lol i used to own on that game before they came out with better playstation games and better pc games i used to play that alot i would always make huge bases
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