Well its certainly something . But not my style I prefer *realistic things* but I guess its great. _________________ "Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live." QUICK_EDIT
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Tsar (Bulgarian, Serbian and Macedonian цар, Russian царь (help·info), in scientific transliteration respectively car and car' ), occasionally spelled Czar or Tzar and sometimes Csar or Zar in English, is a Slavonic term designating certain monarchs.
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Gosho / not country like macedonia ???
Rattuskid/ It doesn't exists now ???
I hope you are both kidding. It is indeed named former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia since I think 93 but it was Macedonia before. And they speak macedonian. QUICK_EDIT
What kind of an person says that Macedonia is not a nation. Before someone says another dum comment like that they should at least look at a modern map. You tell em rattuskid and why dont they look for a united korea too _________________ "Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live." QUICK_EDIT
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WOW! lovely voxel. I love the front a lot, but there is something with it isn't right... I don't know what it is, but something isn't perfect with the middel-part :/ _________________ This is a signature QUICK_EDIT
Hahaha, Some maps in my school still have the USSR on them.
God I miss those days.
My grandpa has a map with USSR and...was Yugoslavia there too? anyways, I like your new voxel, shouldn't it be Hover Battle Tank? _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Just because it doesn't exist now doesn't mean it never did. Try finding the USSR on a modern map while you're at it.
No, there is no such country and it never existed. No such thing as Macedonia. That is Serbian and bolschevic propaganda, which teared 1/3 of my country, turned that place in a concentration camp for nearly 1.5 million Bulgarians in there and created a policy of destroying everything in there, thus leading to the effective creation of a so-called "Macedonian" people, which have some connection to the Ancient trribe of Macedonians.
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I hope you are both kidding. It is indeed named former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia since I think 93 but it was Macedonia before. And they speak macedonian
No, they speak a Bulgarian dialect with a lot of Serbian and Greek words. But infact, as many language examinators and historians have proven, that is simply Bulgarian. If it wasn't, how could I got to Skopie and talk to each and every "Macedonian", without ever studying their "language".
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What kind of an person says that Macedonia is not a nation. Before someone says another dum comment like that they should at least look at a modern map. You tell em rattuskid and why dont they look for a united korea too
I and every normal, educated enough in Balkan history person say that. Macadonia is a part of Bulgaria - it has been for the last 1400 years, it will be a part of Bulgaria soon.
Korea is split in two parts because the two populace have two leaders and two ways of life, which contradict each other. While the so-called "Macedonians" have ВМОРО (VMORO - Internal Macedonian and Odrin Revolutionary Organisation), which sole purpose is to see macedonia free from foreign oppressors - Greeks in the South and Serbs in the North.
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Its not Yotta spell it correctly next time and look at this article : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Macedonia _________________ "Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live." QUICK_EDIT
Then do it already and stop calling me yotta for god sakes. RLY_BIG_TANK do you have a public BTR-80A voxel ? _________________ "Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live." QUICK_EDIT
Gosho, Korea was spilt into two parts because of the USA and Russia in 1945. Not because of the two Leaders and two different ways of life. The two Cold War enemies helped establish governments sympathetic to their own ideologies, leading to Korea's current division into two political entities: North Korea and South Korea.
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The basic problem in the relationship between the Republic of Macedonia and Bulgaria is the latter's refusal to recognise the existence of a separate Macedonian ethnicity, instead considering Macedonians to be Bulgarians and their language as a regional "norm" based on local Bulgarian dialects. The so called "language dispute", which started in 1993 and was effectively impeding diplomatic relations, was resolved in 1999 when the two governments adopted the formula "Macedonian language according to the constitution of the Republic of Macedonia" and "Bulgarian language according to the constitution of the Republic of Bulgaria" in their bilateral agreements where they use the Macedonian and Bulgarian languages. The official and most widely spoken language is Macedonian
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So there you go, There IS a Macedonian language and Macedonia DOES exist! Macedonian language is made of of many different Slavonic languages. _________________ My name is Shadow... I am Lord of the Shadows! NOD rules!!!!
About macedonia, I must admit I'm no expert and maybe i'm wrong but at least it has been recognize as a country. Maybe it's wrong, they might not deserve such things, I dunno.
. It maybe needs a "clean up" but it's a good one(i'm speaking 'bout the voxel).
(ed. that's a coincidence, there is an article on macedonia on wikipedia "today's featured article" -however it's 3:30 am in my country so maybe I'll read it after my morning english lesson ) QUICK_EDIT
Gosho, Korea was spilt into two parts because of the USA and Russia in 1945. Not because of the two Leaders and two different ways of life. The two Cold War enemies helped establish governments sympathetic to their own ideologies, leading to Korea's current division into two political entities: North Korea and South Korea.
Dude, I honestly don't give a shit about Korea right now.
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The basic problem in the relationship between the Republic of Macedonia and Bulgaria is the latter's refusal to recognise the existence of a separate Macedonian ethnicity, instead considering Macedonians to be Bulgarians and their language as a regional "norm" based on local Bulgarian dialects. The so called "language dispute", which started in 1993 and was effectively impeding diplomatic relations, was resolved in 1999 when the two governments adopted the formula "Macedonian language according to the constitution of the Republic of Macedonia" and "Bulgarian language according to the constitution of the Republic of Bulgaria" in their bilateral agreements where they use the Macedonian and Bulgarian languages. The official and most widely spoken language is Macedonian
Excuse me,a re you per any chance a Bulgarian or live somewhere in the region? YOU ztyping DON'T KNOW A THING!!! The fact that our corrupt, bolschevic, anti-moral, Turkish ruled government signed something with another group of people does not change the simple fact that there is no such thing as Macedonians or Macedonia.
If you don't believe me, come to Bulgaria, then come to Macedonia. The people speak the very same language. I should know - my grandparents are from the Macedonian region and fled after the Second World War. I know what I speak of, while you all base your knowledge of the real world on an INTERNET enciclopedia.
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I fail to see your irony - I'm talking about a part of my homeland, destroyed and turned into another thing. It's like taking your child away from you and then saying it has nothing to do with you, even though the DNA samples show that you are connected. This is something on which I would like to talk to the entrie world about. For god sakes, 1,5 million people getting tortured and burned until they change their nationality into something that never existed before and that doesn't sound horrible to you?! It's a Genocide. QUICK_EDIT
One thing, my dad's friend who was in the army moved to Macedonia with his pension, and he is living like a king there. As it contributes into alot of the currency there. It doesn't matter if Macedonians speak the same language it is still their language too. Scotland, Wales and England all speak the same language. Although they each have different origin language like every country has but UK English is spoke there more.
Alot of the old French colonies in Africa still speak French becuase it is now their language.
If this picture isn't Macedonia then what is?
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i've heard that throughout history there have been many countries that don't exist anymore and they were not merely the same countries as now but with different names, they had completely different borders, and actually i think that the concept of country didn't really exist until like a century ago. Last edited by ViPr on Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:56 pm; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
he had already said - Battlezone _________________
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My final post about this. Rattuskid, the Balkans might be a timberbox or not. That still does not change the fact that countless people died and many more suffered a horrible fate. If you're not touched, that is YOUR problem, not mine.
And if I understand what you said in your post, I can sum it up like this: "If something in your life sucks, don't bother even trying to change it." That is something I can never agree to.
ShadowLord, I told you - the Macedonias are Bulgarians. They've never had a country of their own, they never had a language of their own, no one pre 1945 even speaks of Macedonians, but only about Bulgarians in the region of Macedonia. I really don't care how your dad's friend or how much money he won as a mercenary, figthing against the Albanians or the Serbs or whatever. QUICK_EDIT
Gosho, if you'd just said that at the start I wouldn't have bothered to start. Btw he was in the army Lets just try and blow this over. This conversation is done now lets talk about the tank! _________________ My name is Shadow... I am Lord of the Shadows! NOD rules!!!!
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C.C.A. Czar battle tank
. But not my style I prefer *realistic things* but I guess its great.
Lets just try and blow this over. This conversation is done now lets talk about the tank!
