Now, I can explain the whole deal: I was invited to the C&C 3 Community Summit and I'm heading to the airport in the next hours. Keep posting your answers to our little survey about the game and I'll bring your words to EA's table.
If anyone who happens to go to this event as well, needs to know me, here's my picture:
Hmm...I have Photoshop open, and Banshee posts a picture. It must be God's will... _________________ #renproj:renegadeprojects.com via Matrix - direct link QUICK_EDIT
meh, if only I had the money and the time.. I'd like to go to that convention too.... and meet Banshee, and the those from this site who will go too. QUICK_EDIT
It's not a convention. It's an invite-only party. And EA is handing out the invites. And they are paying for all the expenses. And they expect the guests to write stories about how awesome C+C3 is afterwards. And they pretend to care about what the guests have to say about C+C3.
It's more of a prostitute recruitement than a party...works with guilt - how could you possibly say something bad about EA and C&C 3 after they paid thousands and thousands of dollars to fly you to the US, let you meet the developers, showed you early versions of the game, and so on? They treated you so nicely, made you into something special, and now you want to write something mean?
No. No, you cannot do that. It's unthinkable. That'd be ungrateful. No, C&C 3 is the uber-C&C we've been waiting for ever since TS, and whoever says something else is an idiot and can't judge it 'cause he's never seen it live - while you did. 'cause you're special. I love you, EA.
F**king community whores.
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It's more of a prostitute recruitement than a party...works with guilt - how could you possible say something bad about EA and C&C 3 after they paid thousands and thousands of dollars to fly you to the US, let you meet the developers, showed you early versions of the game, and so on? They treated you so nicely, made you into something special, and now you want to write something mean?
No. No, you cannot do that. It's unthinkable. That'd be ungrateful. No, C&C 3 is the uber-C&C we've been waiting for ever since TS, and whoever says something else is an idiot and can't judge it 'cause he's never seen it live - while you did. 'cause you're special. I love you, EA.
Fυcking community whores.
watch your language and your attitude there... what you say is psychologically sound but posting irrelevant phrases afterwards does little else other than provoking spite. moreover, you've just showed what kind of class you have just now. QUICK_EDIT
That's not an "irrelevant phrase", that's my personal opinion on this topic, phrased exactly as I thought it.
And if you think I "just showed" what kind of class I have, then you must've managed to not meet me for the past five years.
Very well, I'll take your word for it then... but stay polite, I don't see anyone cursing and calling you whore now do you?
Yes, I see your point, being clearly portrayed up there... but we'll just have to wait and see... not pre-empt stuff and all Last edited by IVI on Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:12 pm; edited 2 times in total QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:08 pm Post subject:
But I wouldn't say that he's a die-hard fan who finds the game fantastic. I would think most people would be pleased by the prizes sent, really. _________________
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:09 pm Post subject:
Their gift pack rocked, Renegade. But what they've done with TFD was terrible. I'm optimistic about the gameplay of C&C3, but I think they are screwing up the story. There, I'll be able to see if I'm right and, if they are screwing up the story as I'm seeing, I'm gonna do some constructive criticism to help to make it more consistent. QUICK_EDIT
good news Please, try to get the storyline and that tiberium thing to EA's attention.
We trust in you, comrade! =)
good luck! _________________
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:31 pm Post subject:
Banshee wrote:
Their gift pack rocked, Renegade. But what they've done with TFD was terrible. I'm optimistic about the gameplay of C&C3, but I think they are screwing up the story. There, I'll be able to see if I'm right and, if they are screwing up the story as I'm seeing, I'm gonna do some constructive criticism to help to make it more consistent.
Banshee, don't get me wrong, but I'm 99.9% sure they've set the story in stone already, since the FMVs were already shot.
I'm also afraid they might screw up the story, but then again, a screwed up story is still better than no story at all (Generals).
And btw, to be honest, I personally found TS' story neither incredibly good, nor 100% consistent with TD. But it was presented with more effort, and I think the same is happening again. It could be much worse (Generals). QUICK_EDIT
I KNEW IT! I SO KNEW IT from the time he made that "revolution and blind faith" topic.
Oh, and your "blind faith" is useless, it's TOO LATE now for that kind of stuff.
Besides, I could've told everyone, and Banshee wouldn't have banned me. He'd just be sad that I revealed the truth. Hey, I also kept it to myself that the new faction is the Scrin...I let Banshee do all the dirty work of revealing.
Their gift pack rocked, Renegade. But what they've done with TFD was terrible. I'm optimistic about the gameplay of C&C3, but I think they are screwing up the story. There, I'll be able to see if I'm right and, if they are screwing up the story as I'm seeing, I'm gonna do some constructive criticism to help to make it more consistent.
And when did they send that gift-pack?
Oh right, just when they started to need us again...
woot! i wish i was going anyway you can get me over there lol ill do anything! how fun though... bring back loads of imformation for us to ponder over! QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:57 pm Post subject:
Renegade wrote:
Oh right, just when they started to need us again...
'cause they cared so much for us while they didn't have anything to sell...
They really dont need us, ya know...If they had no fanboy support they'd still make C&C3 and get profit, we're a tiny percentage in the potential CC3 market, They still have GameReplays noobs(pretty much all RTS Players), average gamers, RTS fans in general. _________________ PPM's Reichstrollfuherer, 236th Trollenparties brigade. QUICK_EDIT
You do realize the integrity of the C&C franchise is being treated a lot better than many others in the industry? Take the new Sonic the Hedgehog for example. It is a horrible game on so many levels, you'd think they accidently shipped a beta build or something. Other 'honorable' mentions include the Worms and Fallout series.
Cherish what you have, cause it could be a lot worse. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
They really dont need us, ya know...If they had no fanboy support they'd still make C&C3 and get profit, we're a tiny percentage in the potential CC3 market, They still have GameReplays noobs(pretty much all RTS Players), average gamers, RTS fans in general.
We may not be vital as buyers, but we are vital as marketing - sure, people would still buy the game, but the game wouldn't fare half as good if the entire fanbase told everyone they knew that the game isn't worth their money. Plus, they need us as a base community - if there are no oldbies around to pull up fansites and guide the hordes, all EA has is a bunch of retard n00bs salivating about the "phat expolsions!!!1!111!". But to continue making money out of it, they need a growing, healthy, mod-making community, to keep interest in the game up, and sell another three gold, deluxe, and budget version. Not to forget the add-on, and The Second Decade.
Yes, EA doesn't give a ztype whether we buy the game or not - there's enough idiots out there who will. But they do give a ztype whether the "C&C experts" tell the world not to buy their game.
GeckoYamori wrote:
You do realize the integrity of the C&C franchise is being treated a lot better than many others in the industry? Take the new Sonic the Hedgehog for example. It is a horrible game on so many levels, you'd think they accidently shipped a beta build or something. Other 'honorable' mentions include the Worms and Fallout series.
Cherish what you have, cause it could be a lot worse.
Well, Sonic still does have Sonic, doesn't it? And Worms still has worms, right?
Where's Kane in Generals? _________________ #renproj:renegadeprojects.com via Matrix - direct link QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:05 pm Post subject:
Please. Do you think Game Replays and other die-hard RTS players REALLY give a ztype? They dont care about the story, just that you can tank spam, as long as EA is still selling big, EA can go on. If they lose us thye can drop C&C entirely. No loss for EA, Us? Sure, Not for big buisness. _________________ PPM's Reichstrollfuherer, 236th Trollenparties brigade. QUICK_EDIT
I don't understand quite well what/why's everyone talking about.
C&C's dead since Westwood's dead. That new game has nothing to do with C&C, so why are you flaming them? You would do better if you started buying Petroglyph's games and joined that community... or perhaps if there is a C&C fan rich enough to buy EA... _________________ Time will tell...
Sooner or later...
Time will tell... QUICK_EDIT
Please. Do you think Game Replays and other die-hard RTS players REALLY give a ztype? They dont care about the story, just that you can tank spam, as long as EA is still selling big, EA can go on. If they lose us thye can drop C&C entirely. No loss for EA, Us? Sure, Not for big buisness.
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:39 pm Post subject:
Renegade wrote:
But to continue making money out of it, they need a growing, healthy, mod-making community, to keep interest in the game up, and sell another three gold, deluxe, and budget version. Not to forget the add-on, and The Second Decade.
Not that this doesn't apply to just about any other game series.
You do know that games are basically made to make money, do you? Yes, for some game studios the art aspect is bigger, and for some (like EA) the money making part is more important, but the way EA is handling this with C&C is still much better than what it could be. And I say that as someone who doesn't like EA, and never will.
Kiith-Sa wrote:
I don't understand quite well what/why's everyone talking about.
C&C's dead since Westwood's dead. That new game has nothing to do with C&C, so why are you flaming them? You would do better if you started buying Petroglyph's games and joined that community... or perhaps if there is a C&C fan rich enough to buy EA...
A year ago or so I thought the same way. But since SW:EaW's release, I've become somewhat sceptical if Petro can really live up to the hype. There were too many aspects in that game - and I'm not even talking about the bugs - that weren't as great & convincing as I had hoped. And the same was the case with the last 2 C&C games by Westwood, TS and Renegade. They surely had more soul than most games out there, and I still like both of them more than 99% of the games in their respective genres, but in some aspects they were simply horrible games, and I can absolutely understand that gamers who are not as much into the story/soul aspect didn't like these games that much.
It is a fact that these last two C&Cs by old Westwood took long and still were very buggy, unbalanced and technically outdated when they were released, so while I miss the good old WW days too, I think it is wrong to judge a game before it's released, be it C&C3 or Petros P-02. If the EA dev team does get it right in most aspects, C&C3 will be the best C&C since TD (and despite what some might say, I think this is quite easy to achieve), and if Petro does repeat the mistakes they (at least imo) made with EAW, P-02 will be just as good-but-not-great as EAW is. Of course it could easily turn out to be the other way round, with C&C3 being crap and P-02 turning out as the UberGame, too.
This has absolutely nothing to do with the way how someone treats the community. In that respect Petro is far better, no doubt, but in the end, it will all come down to the games. QUICK_EDIT
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The Revolution will begin: C&C 3 Community Summit!
F**king community whores.
Please, try to get the storyline and that tiberium thing to EA's attention.
