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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 4:13 am    Post subject:  ATTN:ALL TS FANS Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread.jspa?threadID=227038 Potential epic thread here about TS guys...By me, of course. We can possibly get a major source of win out of this with YOUR HELP.

Aka click the link, register and complain at Apoc. simple. Ya'll harped on Apoc when it was pointless to, why not do it again when we can benefit majorly from this?

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

EA only really does stuff for people when there's uber profit involved #Tongue

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I see that there's some EA loyalists whining about that TS is worse than TW. I know that they're whining about that because they have only played Gen and TW and they think that EA's C+C is better than Westwood's...

This topic in EA forums is giving some hope for TS...

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Woah Neutral I didn't know that the EA forums were full of complete idiots like valdez #Mad We really should do something! Smile

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm known as Supersoldier on that forum, btw. Yeah rant posted. As far as I'm concerned EA really sucks in the whole continuity department.

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I haven't bought C&C 3 yet, Although i think i might have nice controls(like attack move and such) and nice graphics, but that's pretty much all i expect from a game made by EA.

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well I think I got nowhere yet start another TW vs TS flamewar...

ztyping Horde sucks. Both sides can yiff in hell.

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Electronic Arses will never make a patch for such old game as Tiberian Sun, mostly since it wouldn't bring them any profit. Valdez is right when he says that EA owns the franchise, and can do whatever they want for the C&C title...hell, they can turn it into Cake & Cream if they want to...

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It's a shame.
It's like if someone were to make a totally awesome work of art, like a metal sculpture -
EA would come along and buy it, then pound it into a cube, and then sell it for the worth of the metal.

Westwood put a whole lot of creative thought and effort into CNC, then EA bought it, mangled it up, and sold it for the price of the name

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I couoldn't agreed more. But what can we do? The only thing we can do is protest, large and many. We need to stop bying EA's games! We need to send a supportmail every time we can (They don't respond anyway Sad) We have to take 'em out with the power of the masses, the power of the people! We are mant more than EA. So what are we waiting for? Let's all move to sweden and live good on **** games. (@Banshee, I think that site is within the rules, considering it is swedish, and in sweden there is no such thing as "cpoyright" only "right to copy"

Exsample: I use MUCH mony on VISTA, and I use MUCH mony on TFD and many other CnC-games (no "CnC3 TW") If EA really want to make a bit more money, sell us the source of TS sell us the source of TD, RA sell us the source of RA2. They can have ther "no good" ranagade (It's a good game, but what happen to Ren2? EA killed it!) and Generls and TW. If they don't get any more money from it, why keep it? If they do get money from it, give 50% or more (note the following) BACK TO THE FANS; BACK TO THE ONE WITH THE MONEY!
Sorry about the caps #Tongue

I am asking, shall we use the power we have, and tak down EA the leagle and easy way, or shal we get the forks and the flames and chase 'em of the surface of planet earth?

I have no further comments...

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Replied, in an attempt to shut that f3cking dumb ass Valdez up..

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Im interested to know exacly what power we actually have against EA because i dont think theres much.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

we have the money they are taking a bath with, we are more than them. What happens if we stop buying theri games? They get no money, and will moast likaly get boygth by someone else. (Petroglyph?)
Or, they go OpenSource (yeah, and jesus was an aline from mars)

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ahhh ok i thought you mean we as modders, because where practically a minority on the large scale of things. But i dont see how the general global population will feel as strongly as we do about EA, neither do i see people just stop buying games from a particular company, they just want the game not the logo.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

But if we make virus that only works if you have an newer EA game installed?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I recently bought C&C3, and my conclusion is:
Good game.

BUT!!!
there are a few notes wich cannot be ignored

-Failed to give the CnC feeling.

-What's with the self-blow-up guys? Not very CnC-ish

-The scrin are cool to play with, but i think theyve gotten a little to the developer's heads, you know, too over-exaggerated

-why does nod look like a second alien faction?! Someone please make a mod to make them more down-to-earth, especially the buildings!!! The dissapointment gave me a headache.

-No subterrainean units??? WTF?!

-Since when does nod have mechs? (talking about that avatar thing) mechs are for GDI, not nod.

-GDI has no hover units... 'nuff said

-I hated the looks of the mammoth tank, but that could just be a matter of taste, in my vision it needed to get some meat on it.

-why does nod still have an inner circle when kane is back?

-The end of tiberian sun: firestorm, made expect a sequel with cabal returning, WHERE IS HE?!

-Haven't seen a single tiberium lifeform, do they only appear in the campaign? haven't gotten all that far out there, but i at least expected to see some visceroids in skirmish maps.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I've read that one a while ago, my only conclusion is:
The release of Tiberium Wars attracted an interesting veriety of shitheads (Pardon, however there is no better word) to the C&C community; people who usually play games like CS, and those new flashy games that have graphics but no depth.

Carnotaurus, is a very intersting character, at first I thought his post was sarcatstic, but than I bacame a sad sad panda. I fail to see how TS was unbalanced and lame, naturally I assume this kid spent less than 3 hours playing TS.
Most of you know where I stand with regard to Tiberium Wars, and I would have to say OVER MY COLD BODY! EA games had butchered C&C enough, releasing a 'patch' to transform TS into a horrible monster would be evil, to say the least.

...good thing there is no profit to it (hance, will never happen)

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Oh, and STFU about anything you've got on Carno. I know for a fact he's played this more than enough to complain, as I have.

Also, fanboys GTFO...EA did NOT butcher CnC3. They made it, which is more than what anyone else was going to do, and made it to meet the industry standard, not a bunch of modder standards with the high expectations of their fanboyism.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

IMO EA mostly listened to C%C: Generals fanboys (who has never played TS) and less TS fans and that's why EA and TW failed.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Command & Conquer:

SERIOUS BUISNESS


-What's with the self-blow-up guys? Not very CnC-ish. -You missed seeing the C&C:Continuum Concepts with 2 PAGES of Nod Sudicide bombers, and nevermind RED ALERT 2's Cuban terrorist(Aiiii!), clearly. Nod is fundamentalist. They will do what they must to win. For Kane!

-why does nod look like a second alien faction?! Someone please make a mod to make them more down-to-earth, especially the buildings!!! The dissapointment gave me a headache. - Ha ha ha, oh wow. That made me lol hard. Nod went from a plausable concept in TD to a bunch of fundie whackjobs in TS. Dont even say TW was 'bizzare' when TS's designs are utterly insane, as well.

-No subterrainean units??? WTF?! - Im not going to cry over them. They had pissy armour and got raped with ease. Worse then the Red Alert Prism Tanks.

-Since when does nod have mechs? (talking about that avatar thing) mechs are for GDI, not nod. I actually like mechs for Nod. They're imposing and scary, much more ideal for a zealous religious organization then a United Nations backed group.

-GDI has no hover units... 'nuff said. -Practicality. Admit it, strapping a 16 salvo missile launcher to a hover chassis is weird. Im glad TW wasent made by the community..then we'd have Hover Medium Tanks or something batshit like that. I do miss the Hover MLRS though. Cute unit.

-why does nod still have an inner circle when kane is back? Advisors? Kane doesnt have all the time in the world to make every decision in the Brotherhood of Nod. Kane's a busy man, I am sure. Do you think President Roosevelt decided the rifles the Americans used in WWII? Do you think Kane personally decides tactical decisions? Thats why Kane has Generals to do it for him.

-The end of tiberian sun: firestorm, made expect a sequel with cabal returning, WHERE IS HE?! Dead and buried alongside Yuri.

-Haven't seen a single tiberium lifeform, do they only appear in the campaign? haven't gotten all that far out there, but i at least expected to see some visceroids in skirmish maps.

1)Scrin Corruptor
2)Platoon of enemy inf
3)???
4)Profit!!

I've read that one a while ago, my only conclusion is:
The release of Tiberium Wars attracted an interesting veriety of shitheads (Pardon, however there is no better word) to the C&C community -You clearly have not been around since Yuri's Revenge. Gameplay for YR is no better then 'SHIT TIBERIAM WARZ!!1'. Its all tankrush online. People play _TEN_ of the 50+ Maps W$/EA gave us for YR because they are not balanced symmetrical crap. Dont even go into Renegade. Thank God for APB...

Carnotaurus, is a very intersting character, at first I thought his post was sarcatstic, but than I bacame a sad sad panda. I fail to see how TS was unbalanced and lame, naturally I assume this kid spent less than 3 hours playing TS. - HA HA HA!! Kid? Please, Lurk the ztype more. I have played a damn good time playing Tiberian Sun, 2003 I got TS. Oh wow, five years of Tiberian Sun? Six of Red Alert 1 and 2? I think thats a little more then 3 hours. Dont judge people you dont know, Asshole.

Donut, that depends on how you look at TW. profit and hype wise? I am not sure myself, either(I havent seen any fiscal reports for EA...ever, so i cant judge.), but I guess they didnt listen to TS fans because it seems..because...

1:TS fans were generally VERY rude to EA and APOC(read the horde posts if you dont believe me.)

2:TS fans still generally bashed and attacked EA for NOT making C&C3 _BEFORE_ TW was announced, now they attack EA for 'killing C&C'? Why does EA even bother with their crap?

3:TS fans, it seems, wanted a port of TS to SAGE.

Thats my two and a half..make it three, cents, on this subject. :3

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well said Smile Except for the stuff about YR Confused It's one of my most favourite games in the whole world! Very Happy Its just that stupid people who like rushing ruin it for the rest of us Rolling Eyes But Mental Omega makes everything better Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

TS was never going to be a major part of C&C3 nor will it be patched as it didn't make as much money and isn't exactly popular now. C&C3 was dull for me, as such it goes ignored and on my shelf with the rest of my C&C games. I don't give two shits what EA does with it, I'm looking forward to morons praising them when they add their 4 new alien factions and the brotherhood of Cod.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I love YR, too, TX, I am just really aiming at the fools online who play Tour of Egypt all day and kick you if you select Yuri online, or try to play different from the Rusher style. Razz

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Dupl3xxx wrote:
Let's all move to sweden and live good on **** games. (@Banshee, I think that site is within the rules, considering it is swedish, and in sweden there is no such thing as "cpoyright" only "right to copy"


I took too long to visit that topic, but no, that link is illegal in the US territory (where the server that hosts PPM is located), therefore it was removed. So, sorry, but we do not follow swedish rules.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Interesting post Desu, however I still fail to see what was the point of your arguement. I mean, your entire post was composed of bashing TS fans (fanboys), it had really little to do with actually supporting any side. I've played C&C games since Red Alert came out, don't lecture me about it.
What I do not understand, are people like Conro, I admit the way he conveyed his arguement bothered me more than the arguement itself. Whining like a CS player generally makes you seem like an idiot, and many would agree on that.
I didn't like Yuri's Revange, I did not buy it.
I didn't like TW, I stopped playing it.
Conro didn't like TS, he asks EA to make it better... WHAT FOR? You hate the game for god's sake!

People like Conro, will keep on whining more for the sake of creating conflict than getting a point across. You say I don't know him, reading his post was more than enough to tell me about the kind fo person he is.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Styledatol wrote:

I didn't like Yuri's Revenge, I did not buy it.

Well then, if you didn't buy Yuri's Revenge, how do you know what its like Smile If you've just played it at a friends house, then you really haven't had the entire experience yet have you? Confused YR had some really nice additions, like the siege chopper, and new voices for most of the existing units Very Happy It was much, much better than RA2, but the poor balancing of Yuri ruined a lot of the game play Sad

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Well then, if you didn't buy Yuri's Revenge, how do you know what its like If you've just played it at a friends house, then you really haven't had the entire experience yet have you? YR had some really nice additions, like the siege chopper, and new voices for most of the existing units It was much, much better than RA2, but the poor balancing of Yuri ruined a lot of the game play


good points though boh RA2 and YR should have taken notes off its predecessor in terms of game play and uncanny realism. I think that they went backwards with when they produced RA2.

The age old points of its overall cartooniness and really gay corny in game movies. And where the hell did this fraud of an einstein come from. I think he enjoyed too many german sausages. Also the violence of the game was toned right down to almost boring levels, as wells as the voices of the units.

All i can say is thet both WW and EA Ztyped up badily with this. BTS will rectify all these faults and restore RA2 to what it should have been. Semi realistic, violent and bloody fun to play. Stay posted.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

What? I loved the cartoonyness of RA2! Laughing The Tiberian universe is meant to be the dark and scary one, the Red Alert universe is meant to be the cartoony and funny one! Very Happy Its simply drawing iself away from the Tiberian universe, which imo is a good thing Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Red Alert 1 is THE scariest and darkest of all C&C games TX, don't forget that #Tongue

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I wonder if people who keep saying that played RA1 before TD. The first thing that struck me when playing RA1 was the whole comical overtone compared to its predecessor.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The only reason I am thinking about getting TW is the fact that it is more balanced out,you just don't have to play in yellow zones like in TS anymore,and there is a lot of new units

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If you belive propaganda about the Soviet Union and think that all Russians are back-stabbing, vodka endulging drunkards, I guess Red Alert is scary.

Its full of stereotypes and inaccurate history, along with incompetent generals and an awful Hammer and Sickle logo.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Agreed.. stereotypes both sides.. but it's only a game..

GeckoYamori wrote:
I wonder if people who keep saying that played RA1 before TD. The first thing that struck me when playing RA1 was the whole comical overtone compared to its predecessor.


Same..

it's a serious game, but it's got a thin layer of cartoonishness.. unlike RA2, which has it coated on so thick you can smell it..

// smells like canned cheese.

TD is a serious game, no "lol i poizn'd ur tea" stuff.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The creepy bald guy needs to go from Red Alert, as well...looks like something the Party V& Dragged in.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ROFL.. trying to take on the EA forum, eh carco? BAD idea. Seriously.


As a frequent visitor of the EA forum, lemme tell you one thing.. Valdez is one of the most level-headed (& thus respected) people in there. Unlike all the screaming fanboys (obviously quite some of you included) he realizes exactly what EA is. Plain hard fact, EA is a company. No use whining about it. They do what they do, we either buy or don't buy.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thus he gets flamed, for being smart. Dontcha love hypocracy?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

lol. Only, the people who really visit the EA forum a lot, and have been there from before the release of C&C3, simply ignore those flaming n00bs. :p

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