Uh... Have you read any of the above posts? You sound like one of those tossers that drive by my house in their huge, gas guzzling cars at 150 kph (in a 60 kph zone!).
I personally can't wait for the oil crisis, and see you pay $10 a litre for petrol.
And WTF!? Trees don't give off CO2, they convert it into oxygen! And as your argument that global warming is a natural cycle:
TX1138 wrote:
I agree with what Sir Modsalot said, but he has missed a crucial point, in that we are not just ACCELARATING the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, but INCREASING the amount that it rises by.
The Earth has natural spikes in the level of CO2 in the atmosphere, but with the amount of fossil fuels that we are extracting and burning from the ground, combined with destruction of some of the worlds best CO2 consumers, trees, we are dramatically increasing the amount that the CO2 levels are rising by.
And if you think about it, there is one massive CO2 emitter on this planet that is more dangerous than all the other CO2 emitters combined, it's HUMAN BEINGS.
The planet can't handle the ever-rising amount of people, and if the birth-death rate keeps up as it is presently, then we will cook ourselves to death.
Anyone who believes that the global warming that we are presently experiencing is not caused by Human Beings (and that includes cows, humans are breeding cows, remember that) is either ignorant, or a complete idiot.
I'm sorry Stingerr, but it is you who is the ignorant person here, and it is people like you who are destroying our planet. You go on polluting our atmosphere with CO2 and CO, but what goes around comes around, and it will come back and hit you eventually, more than you know... _________________ Last edited by TX1138 on Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:52 am; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:51 am Post subject:
wow
I didn't know that about hybrids. Where can I find information this useful? Is there a website out there that I could have learned this from?
TX1138 wrote:
And WTF!? Trees don't give off CO2, they convert it into oxygen! And as your argument that global warming is a natural cycle:
know...
incorrect!
I can't believe how many people don't know that trees convert oxygen to CO2 and convert Co2 to oxygen at the same time during daylight....
and where do you get off thinking your better than everyone else because
your environmentally friendly? environmental pollution isn't the only problem that humanity is dealing with and to think that it is the most important is selfish, oh so incredibly selfish that I can barely hold my rage.... _________________ the doctor is in QUICK_EDIT
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:42 am Post subject:
Re: wow
confactor wrote:
I can't believe how many people don't know that trees convert oxygen to CO2 and convert Co2 to oxygen at the same time during daylight....
Oops! XD What I meant was that plant respiration accounts for about 90% of daily production of CO2, Photosynthesis removes slightly more than this, so in the long run, they don't give off CO2.
confactor wrote:
and where do you get off thinking your better than everyone else because your environmentally friendly? environmental pollution isn't the only problem that humanity is dealing with and to think that it is the most important is selfish, oh so incredibly selfish that I can barely hold my rage....
Wha... At what point did I say that I was better than anybody else? Just because you think that Global Warming isn't humanity's biggest problem doesn't give you the right to call me selfish.
And what other big problems are there that I don't know about? If its Nuclear Weapons, I can't really fix that I live in a country free of all things related to nuclear (except for uranium mining, but even then we severely limit how much we mine). _________________ QUICK_EDIT
You're hitting the nail on the head my friend!
We have to stop destroying our rainforests!
There you go! But in my country I don't hear anybody talking about this, no, they only bitch on people who don't eat biological food, shower too long, have the heater a degree too high, driving a diesel powered car, having the tv on stand-by... And THAT is exactly what pisses me off. The real problem is neglected, and instead we do things to make ourselves feel better, like buying a hybrid car or putting solar panels on our roofs stops the destruction of the planet, but instead we only mess it up more (see my previous post about hybrid cars)
Maybe Al Gore should put his effort in something that actually matters, like you said, the destruction of our rainforests!
You might wonder why I'm not angry with you? Well simply that is because what you say about me isn't true, so I don't feel hurt . I CARE about the envorinment! But I like to work on problems that are actually the cause of things getting worse, not covering stuff up with crap like hybrid cars, or showering 1 minute less than ussual. _________________ Criticizing n00bs is like booing at the special olympics. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:35 pm Post subject:
Stingerr wrote:
@ TX1138
You're hitting the nail on the head my friend!
We have to stop destroying our rainforests!
There you go! But in my country I don't hear anybody talking about this, no, they only bitch on people who don't eat biological food, shower too long, have the heater a degree too high, driving a diesel powered car, having the tv on stand-by... And THAT is exactly what pisses me off. The real problem is neglected, and instead we do things to make ourselves feel better, like buying a hybrid car or putting solar panels on our roofs stops the destruction of the planet, but instead we only mess it up more (see my previous post about hybrid cars)
Maybe Al Gore should put his effort in something that actually matters, like you said, the destruction of our rainforests!
You might wonder why I'm not angry with you? Well simply that is because what you say about me isn't true, so I don't feel hurt . I CARE about the envorinment! But I like to work on problems that are actually the cause of things getting worse, not covering stuff up with crap like hybrid cars, or showering 1 minute less than ussual.
Good point... and I agree, Al Gore really is an idiotic jerk... that is not the extreme you were taking it to, but I'm willing to call him what he is.
That thing about hybrids is really interesting. Could I get a link, please? And to something non-wikia.
TX1138. The plant eating tree hugger... Sorry, I just had to get that out of my system... I have no intention of insulting you. We really do need to do more for the environment, but I think that anyone accusing humans of causing all the damage needs to use his brain and do some research. Not saying you are directly claiming humans as the direct cause, but you certainly imply it. _________________ When you've convinced yourself that killing an animal is 'murder', but killing an unborn human being is 'choice', you sir have become as dangerous as a person can be.
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:04 am Post subject:
Yeah, the Prius is screwed up. But it took a bit more research on what the article was talking about to convince me... That article comes from the same university that said rape was a good thing (which it is definitely not, as we all know). So, that really isn't very convincing. Also, it doesn't say the Hummvee isn't crap, just that the Prius is. Really, both cars are environment unfriendly, when you think about it objectively. _________________ When you've convinced yourself that killing an animal is 'murder', but killing an unborn human being is 'choice', you sir have become as dangerous as a person can be.
I agree I hate the Prius also, not just because it is ugly, but that it gives off more greenhouse gases to make it then it does to produce your standard SUV You would need to drive it a really long way to start making any real difference, and the battery is also very hard to dispose of safely.
But the fact that it looks ugly is also a valid point.
@Stingerr- Sorry mate I was over-reacting a bit there, I was having a bit of a bad day, and I only read part of your post No hard feelings. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:29 pm Post subject:
Stingerr wrote:
Funny fact: people claiming a Toyota Prius is more healthy for the envorinment. I read an article about this, and guess what? A prius is 3 times more destructive for the envorinment then a hummer .
Read this: http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/images/evilprius.html if you don't believe me. What do you mean better for the envorinment? Better for your fuel expenses maybe! Building Hybrid cars is even worse for our planet! Doesnt mind me, i wont be buying one. I drive around in my Alfa Romeo 159 DIESEL, pwning people in so called "envorinmental cars" just to piss them off. "Haha! You wanted to be "envorinmental", but you destroyed more nature I wasted in my entire life driving around this car, and you end up with 40 horsepower less than me, and a plain ugly car." Serves you right
Wow, that really surprised me... I've actually been planning on getting a Smart ForTwo. Nice little cars they are.
Stingerr wrote:
We, as humans, are nothing on this earth. Maybe we think we are something, but we aint. And thinking we could influence a whole planet with our activities is just plain stupid in my opinion. Who the hell do you think we are?
This is just a natural phenomenon, but from all sides people are scaring other people with this crap, or making profit out of it. It's a shame really.
I feel my previous post was ignored, as well as TX1138's that followed it. Who's been dumping all the extra CO2 in the atmosphere? I think you already know the answer. But at the same time, who's been trying to find ways to cut back on emissions? I think if we move to nuclear fusion as Clazzy was talking about, and not only that but make it our primary energy source, things will improve for us dramatically. We can't really do much about about other organisms pumping their own emissions in the atmosphere, but we could make a difference if we cut our own emissions.
Also, a fun little fact; we aren't running out of oil. Maybe readily-available, but not overall. Alberta, Canada has enough hydrocarbons in its soil to keep the whole planet going for more than a century. _________________
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:12 am Post subject:
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Also, a fun little fact; we aren't running out of oil. Maybe readily-available, but not overall. Alberta, Canada has enough hydrocarbons in its soil to keep the whole planet going for more than a century.
At our current rate of consumption, at least. But I agree to a point, in that oil really shouldn't be our main concern.
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I feel my previous post was ignored, as well as TX1138's that followed it. Who's been dumping all the extra CO2 in the atmosphere? I think you already know the answer. But at the same time, who's been trying to find ways to cut back on emissions? I think if we move to nuclear fusion as Clazzy was talking about, and not only that but make it our primary energy source, things will improve for us dramatically. We can't really do much about about other organisms pumping their own emissions in the atmosphere, but we could make a difference if we cut our own emissions.
We did not ignore your posts. Half this topic was about said posts. We've been arguing on whether you were right or wrong. And most of us (myself included) decided you were right about who was pumping in the extra CO2, but that the amount of CO2 didn't really matter as much as it's being presented to. Other gasses that are less easily removable are the problems, like Methane or Carbon-Monoxide.
And for the record, I suggested fusion before Clazzy did. Go ahead and check the posts... I did. _________________ When you've convinced yourself that killing an animal is 'murder', but killing an unborn human being is 'choice', you sir have become as dangerous as a person can be.
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:39 am Post subject:
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Owen the Elf Jedi wrote:
And for the record, I suggested fusion before Clazzy did. Go ahead and check the posts... I did.
Oh, well, OK then... but I was just saying things will go better for us when fusion becomes our primary energy source
I most heartily agree.
And though I am detectably more mature than when I was on Revora, my sense of pride is still immaturely high (which is why I wanted to be credited). And I'm still fairly immature and ill-knowledged, as I'm sure you all noticed. Oh well, at least now I'll admit it. First step to me solving these issues, as we all know (with all your help and a bunch of other people's).
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[quote="Owen the Elf Jedi] We did not ignore your posts. Half this topic was about said posts.
It was directed at Stingerr.
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Oh, sorry. _________________ When you've convinced yourself that killing an animal is 'murder', but killing an unborn human being is 'choice', you sir have become as dangerous as a person can be.
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Have you read any of the above posts? You sound like one of those tossers that drive by my house in their huge, gas guzzling cars at 150 kph (in a 60 kph zone!).
wow
I live in a country free of all things related to nuclear (except for uranium mining, but even then we severely limit how much we mine).
. I CARE about the envorinment! But I like to work on problems that are actually the cause of things getting worse, not covering stuff up with crap like hybrid cars, or showering 1 minute less than ussual.
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