Also Known As: banshee_revora (Steam) Joined: 15 Aug 2002 Location: Brazil
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:46 am Post subject:
Where is the TFD patch 1.03?
Subject description: EA is milking money again... so quick!
EA APOC has recently released a press release of another package of C&C games that EA will release, which includes TFD with C&C3. I personally refuse to go into details about this package, which is currently quite offensive to the C&C community, at least until some critical problems from The First Decade get fixed. While I do appreciate many things that the EALA studio did in the last months for us fans, it is always good to remind that I am a C&C fan and a customer as well as many visitors of this site. We fans deserve some respect, afterall we are paying for it. Unfortunatelly, the support given for The First Decade was a major disappointment for any C&C fan.
Last month, the celebration of the 12th anniversary and the release of C&C 95 as abandonware was a marketing stunt to sell this new package of C&C games in the end of october. The same kind of trick was made with The First Decade, back in 2005, where EA sponsored the C&C 10th Anniversary organized by the CNCNZ guys.
The First Decade package fails on many aspects. The XP/Vista support from Red Alert 1 and Command & Conquer 95 is completely unstable with constant crashes and it has no LAN/internet support. The use of different executables, most of them either incompatible with the CD versions of the game or no-cd cracked versions of the C&C games already caused too much problems for modders by rendering certain mods incompatible with TFD and causing problems for community projects such as Rock Patch, ETS, etc...
Anyway, since this new package will feature The First Decade and C&C3, do not expect TFD problems fixed any time soon. So, if you have the original games, there is no reason to spend a single cent in this package. If you are desesperate to get a C&C game that you don't have, we recommend Amazon.com or E-Bay, since the original games causes much less headaches than The First Decade.
Ahh... they've also released the box art of it... but who cares? Have a good day!
In a short note: Few days ago, I said in a recent news that after october 1st (and then october 3rd) you wouldn't be able to download TD legally anymore, but I totally missed the point. You won't be able to download it from EA servers because the download exploded their bandwidth, but downloading it from other places is still legal. Last edited by Banshee on Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:16 pm; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 24 May 2004 Location: Flanders (Be) Posts:300000001
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:44 am Post subject:
Re: Where is the TFD patch 1.03?
Banshee wrote:
In a short note: Few days ago, I said in a recent news that after october 1st (and then october 3rd) you wouldn't be able to download TD legally anymore, but I totally missed the point. You won't be able to download it from EA servers because the download exploded their bandwidth, but downloading it from other places is still legal.
I still wonder if that means C&C1 is now freeware... _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Uh huh. Its marketing and captialism. All companies do shit like this, EA's not the first, and by God not the last. Or websites, for that matter...
That big PPM rebirth thing for example...
Rebirth? No, just celebrating its birthday. And last time I checked, PPM wasn't about scamming you to buy things which you either already have, or could get better elsewhere.
Its a bit different. _________________ If there is a problem on the forums, PM me. QUICK_EDIT
I'm not gonna lie I personally never liked Apoc or the people he represents. I have said this in the past: When Apoc of EA advertise something good, there is always something sneaky behind it... I dont know why people like him or defend EA so much... _________________ 0h noez!11!!! one 11!! U just p00rd n00bs@uc3 a11 0v3r my l33t sk1llz!!!!!!11one!!111!!!one111!!!!!!!
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Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Location: DAS BOOT IM DER OSTSEE
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:16 am Post subject:
OK, so it was not a scam, but still, it was just as lame as some of the EA promotions and promises we bitch about here on the fourms. 'PPM will be revolutionized', and all we got was a little measly pack of RA2 screenshots that are up on IGN and CNC Source for God's sakes! It was disappointing for me, considering Banshee's ability(but he is busy, of course...). Oh well, Whatever, I guess. :3 :3 :3 _________________ PPM's Reichstrollfuherer, 236th Trollenparties brigade. QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Location: 3rd Rock from the Tiberian Sun
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:48 am Post subject:
I have all the originals, plus the TFD, and now the downloaded CnC95. The only reason I got the TFD is because I found it unopened at a Salvage Store for a buck fifty. The only way I would buy another compilation is if they add skirmish to CnC95. Which means never. lol
Joined: 24 May 2004 Location: Flanders (Be) Posts:300000001
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:13 am Post subject:
Rebelmoon wrote:
The only way I would buy another compilation is if they add skirmish to CnC95. Which means never. lol
Oh, it might be possible to add Skirmish, using rockpatch-like hacks... but since the C&C1 AI has an IQ of about -5 the enemy player would still not do a single freaking thing, so it's kinda useless :p
But from EA... nope. They don't even have the C&C1 source code afaik. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 10 May 2007 Location: NERV headquarters in EVA-01
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:05 pm Post subject:
i bought TFD its alright but i have vista *kicks computer* and it only runs some of the games *kicks computer again* _________________ U flame me the evangelion series will kill u QUICK_EDIT
Kick yourself, first for using Vista and then for buying TFD.
Your computer is completely innocent at this. _________________ Time will tell...
Sooner or later...
Time will tell... QUICK_EDIT
That's some pretty harsh anti-EA stuff, Banshee. Watch it or they might not invite you to one of their community summits which is basically just a ploy to get you guys to report news on EA's newest C&C titles so all your little site frequenters go out and buy it.
Trust me, EA is not our friend. Their employees are not our friends. Hell, most of em probably aren't even C&C fans. Remember that next time Apoc posts something. He doesn't even like C&C, especially old C&C.
Try not to burn your bridges though Banshee, you're a community leader! QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Location: DAS BOOT IM DER OSTSEE
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject:
Boo ztyping hoo. Dont like the new C&Cs? please leave or dont bitch. That'd be soo nice for the people who actually have gotten over Westwood.
Also, I cant blame them for not liking you guys, to be honest. Assholes..erm..die-hard fans.. troll the EA boards and bicker constantly over the dumbest things, verbally abuse the EA employees and heckle APOC over shit he has not even done. Do you wonder WHY EA hates the community or the franchise? I'd hate you guys, too, if all I got was grief from whiny fanboys who cant get over Westwood.
Its a pathetic circle jerk over a corpse of a company that sold themselves out to EA. EA never charged in and raped Westwood like the myths seem to propegate. _________________ PPM's Reichstrollfuherer, 236th Trollenparties brigade. QUICK_EDIT
Boo ztyping hoo. Dont like the new C&Cs? please leave or dont bitch. That'd be soo nice for the people who actually have gotten over Westwood.
Also, I cant blame them for not liking you guys, to be honest. Assholes..erm..die-hard fans.. troll the EA boards and bicker constantly over the dumbest things, verbally abuse the EA employees and heckle APOC over shit he has not even done. Do you wonder WHY EA hates the community or the franchise? I'd hate you guys, too, if all I got was grief from whiny fanboys who cant get over Westwood.
Its a pathetic circle jerk over a corpse of a company that sold themselves out to EA. EA never charged in and raped Westwood like the myths seem to propegate.
Yea, and what the hell is with all the 'WAH IT DOESN'T FOLLOW PLOT WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH'?
Get over it, for you have no control over what EA does, or any company for that matter, so grow up, move on, nobody's going to miss you.
It doesn't matter if you personally verbally WAH at them all day, its not going to change anything. _________________ ... QUICK_EDIT
Totally. Changing EA would be like ppmsite actually producing a mod worth playing. You can try and try all day but at the end of the day it's not going to change anything. QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Location: DAS BOOT IM DER OSTSEE
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:32 pm Post subject:
I insulted banshee? If I did, I am sorry. I didnt mean to insult him. That post is directed at the generally ungrateful community we have. Not really Banshee. =S _________________ PPM's Reichstrollfuherer, 236th Trollenparties brigade. QUICK_EDIT
Boo ztyping hoo. Dont like the new C&Cs? please leave or dont bitch. That'd be soo nice for the people who actually have gotten over Westwood.
Also, I cant blame them for not liking you guys, to be honest. Assholes..erm..die-hard fans.. troll the EA boards and bicker constantly over the dumbest things, verbally abuse the EA employees and heckle APOC over shit he has not even done. Do you wonder WHY EA hates the community or the franchise? I'd hate you guys, too, if all I got was grief from whiny fanboys who cant get over Westwood.
Its a pathetic circle jerk over a corpse of a company that sold themselves out to EA. EA never charged in and raped Westwood like the myths seem to propegate.
Yea, and what the hell is with all the 'WAH IT DOESN'T FOLLOW PLOT WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH'?
Get over it, for you have no control over what EA does, or any company for that matter, so grow up, move on, nobody's going to miss you.
It doesn't matter if you personally verbally WAH at them all day, its not going to change anything.
I insulted banshee? If I did, I am sorry. I didnt mean to insult him. That post is directed at the generally ungrateful community we have. Not really Banshee. =S
Not you, sorry if i gave you the impression, this was directed at ggdgfhf. QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 20 May 2005 Location: Defiance Industries HQ, Antarctica
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:30 am Post subject:
I agree with Carnotaurus in that the new CnC's are nice for those of use who one love the RTS genre of games or are just fans of CnC it self regardless of who makes it. But remember you don't have the right to wine if you have not gotten the object in question first, man I remember when CnC 3 was first anounced personally I felt that it was going to be another fun game to play and you know what even if i cant play the game with High detail or online it still is fun. That is the end of my rant...
See you all next rant.
-Kurorahk- _________________ Defiance Industries: We prefur to call it well prepaired not over kill.
Blaze, Demon of The Round Table, Mobuis One call me what you want I am one with the sky. QUICK_EDIT
well, I bought C&C Collection several years ago, however I had to spend about 50$ on it.
I had to buy it through some weird internet store. First, it is bought in US and delivered to their Russian storages. Then they greatly raise its price and sell it to customers like myself. I overpaid it several times, but I don't regret it now.
For some really unknown reason, no C&C games except Tiberium Wars were officially published in Russia, Westwood somehow were unable to get an agreement with any of our publishers...
I won't buy this saga or whatever it is. I simply don't need it at all.
When the addon will be released, I'll just get a copy of it and check singleplayer... QUICK_EDIT
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