Tiberian Sun acting like a mentally challenged kid

Styledatol

My poor Tiberian Sun, it has some kind of sickness.
It is really slow, and I'm not exaggerating there: I have a 3.0Ghz processor and 1Gb of ram, yet it takes the game forever to load. When there are alot of pretty explosions on the screen it slows down.

At first I though that the CDs were damaged, them being almost 10 years old and all, but than something creepy started happening: When I have a building in construction, the game itself experiences lag worse than anything I've seen. There is actually a few seconds delay between my orders and the reaction.
Now it doesn't happen when I build units, only when there is a building in construction.

Worth noting:
- I tried reinstalling to no avail
- I played around with game resolution
- When I play on Judeau's MicroTS or TSD it works fine without any lag

Can anyone save my poor TS? Crying or Very sad

Clarkson · Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject:

Its not worth saving. Not at all. Smile

Does MicroTS use a different EXE then normal SUN? I know TSD does, perhaps it is something wrong with the Tiberian Sun exes.

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m666 · Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:32 pm Post subject:

TS has always had a construction lag, tis one of the reasons I normally avoid TS.

I know that if you set Transparent=no on the animations, that'll help the lag.

And loads of extra maps without being written to a missions.pkt (IIRC that is the file) will cause the game to take forever to load.

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daTS · Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:50 pm Post subject:

wait, is judeau's micro TS just a modified game.exe?

I mean, I don't want to change gameplay or unit bounds... just reduce the lag. Mine lags during construction as well (although not near as bad Style is experiencing) [then again, my discs are newer]

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Styledatol · Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:54 pm Post subject:

Thing is, this kind of retarded behavior did not occur years ago. Tiberian Sun was pretty smooth up until 6 months ago. I'll post a video of the lagzors

m666 · Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:47 pm Post subject:

Also; MicroTS has a no-cd on it, thus a different EXE.

Post video, might help.

And you sure you don't have anything eating up CPU usage in the background? I've had games lag before due to something not closing right.

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Daz · Energy Commando **Joined**: 26 Apr 2003

I experience this with RA2 when running without a CD.

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Alexander C Bukington · Grenadier **Joined**: 09 Mar 2007

Your cd is probably going bad. They can only be used fo so long before they simply don't work.

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CCHyper · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Apr 2005

Err? CD's have live spans? My mum has some CD's from the 80's that will work perfect.

Its true that No CD hacks slow the game down, reason i dont know, but i would say because they only tell the game to not look at the CD and look at the current directory, so it still goes though all of the CD loading routines.

But saying that, my TS runs really fast with a No CD.

Also check filenames in the directory, MPR can slow the game down quite a bit.

Have you changed any hardware or software configurations as of late?

friday-13th · Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:59 pm Post subject:

Have you messed around with the Res or game options?

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DaFool · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Nov 2006

CDs do have life spans, I read in a magazine CDs last 25ish years and hard drives will last about 100. Do you have firestorm installed?

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Alexander C Bukington · Grenadier **Joined**: 09 Mar 2007

"Err? CD's have live spans? My mum has some CD's from the 80's that will work perfect."
yeah you can only use them for a certain amount of time before they just don't work. Its actually not so much how long you use them but rather how often you use them. Eventually the laser which reads the disks ironically makes the CD unreadable.

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Styledatol · Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:21 am Post subject:

CDs do have lifespans, they also cease to work or begin to act retarded when you don't use them for a log time, for a year or more (happened a couple of times).

I'm not at home right now so I cant post the the video at the moment.

@DaFool: I do have firestorm installed.

daTS · Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:30 pm Post subject:

dude... CDs wear down after much use... if you keep them in the case and away from things that scratch the living hell out of them, they'll last for a looong ztyping time. Dont' know what the hell you're smoking but it's messing with you dude.

Also, try putting the screen res down to the highest original setting (80x600x16)

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Styledatol · Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:30 am Post subject:

Changing Resolution - Doesn't work
Deleting everything that's not supposed to be in Sun directory - Doesn't work
Reinstalling (again) - Doesn't work
Replacing my Game.exe with another one - Doesn't work

How do I make videos play normally on Camtasia? So they won't skip frames?

Alexander C Bukington · Grenadier **Joined**: 09 Mar 2007

"Changing Resolution - Doesn't work
Deleting everything that's not supposed to be in Sun directory - Doesn't work
Reinstalling (again) - Doesn't work
Replacing my Game.exe with another one - Doesn't work

How do I make videos play normally on Camtasia? So they won't skip frames?"

I'm telling you its either the CD (mostlikly) or your PC has something conflicting on it. For the camtasia thing either change the refresh rate on your monitor or use a different program.

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Von Kriplespac · General **Joined**: 01 Sep 2004 **Location**: Somewhere

daTSchikinhed wrote:

dude... CDs wear down after much use... if you keep them in the case and away from things that scratch the living hell out of them, they'll last for a looong ztyping time. Dont' know what the hell you're smoking but it's messing with you dude.

Its called Disk Rot, and that happens over a longer period of time of non-use.

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DaFool · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Nov 2006

Does Red Alert 2 work? Since the two are almost identical, if the RA2 doesn't work also it's you comp. If RA2 does work, it's the TS disk.

You can also try this:

1) hit ctrl+shift+esc
Task manager will pop up
2) look at the bottom of the window to cpu ussage; if it is at or around 0% your fine, if it as 100% (withOUT you running the game) then thats your problem.
3) Find the program that is using the most cpu, make a shortcut for it on the desktp, and shut it down. (For me, windows explorer uses 99% for some reason).
4) Start up your game and your comp will have dedicated all the cpu to your game, so it should run fast.
5)when you finish playing, get task manager back up and hit new task, then open up the program you shut down.

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Lone Wolf807 · Soldier **Joined**: 28 Apr 2006

DaFool wrote:

Does Red Alert 2 work? Since the two are almost identical, if the RA2 doesn't work also it's you comp. If RA2 does work, it's the TS disk.

You can also try this:

1) hit ctrl+shift+esc
Task manager will pop up
2) look at the bottom of the window to cpu ussage; if it is at or around 0% your fine, if it as 100% (withOUT you running the game) then thats your problem.
3) Find the program that is using the most cpu, make a shortcut for it on the desktp, and shut it down. (For me, windows explorer uses 99% for some reason).
4) Start up your game and your comp will have dedicated all the cpu to your game, so it should run fast.
5)when you finish playing, get task manager back up and hit new task, then open up the program you shut down.

I might of read this wrong but why the hell do you turn off explorer.exe?!?!?!?

friday-13th · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:20 am Post subject:

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Find the program that is using the most cpu, make a shortcut for it on the desktp, and shut it down. (For me, windows explorer uses 99% for some reason

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Styledatol · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:25 am Post subject:

You know that explorer.exe is not IE, right?
Turning it off... shuts down some quite vital for the computer's well being and mental sanity.

Nothing works so far. The only option I seem to have left is to download a pirated version to replace my CDs.

Tratos · General **Joined**: 01 Jan 2003

Styledatol wrote:

You know that explorer.exe is not IE, right?
Turning it off... shuts down some quite vital for the computer's well being and mental sanity.

It does not, shutting down explorer.exe will merely disable the majority of your windows OS, like the desktop. Its actually a good way of deleting those files that for some reason have become 'undeletable', try it now. You can ctrl+alt+del, click new task in the applications tab and run explorer.exe to bring it back again afterwards.

Muldrake · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:44 pm Post subject:

Styledatol wrote:

Nothing works so far. The only option I seem to have left is to download a pirated version to replace my CDs.

Or buy new ones? You can get them pretty damn cheap on Ebay.

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IcySon55 · Commander **Joined**: 19 Nov 2003 **Location**: Overworld

Styledatol wrote:

Changing Resolution - Doesn't work
Deleting everything that's not supposed to be in Sun directory - Doesn't work
Reinstalling (again) - Doesn't work
Replacing my Game.exe with another one - Doesn't work

You have "Bloated Windows Syndrome". We'll call it BWiS for short.

After a certain amount of time, installing/uninstalling/reinstalling programs and games, the registry becomes highly corrupt. Arikado has experienced this, and so have I. Arikado had Yuri's Revenge taking forever to load or even play at all. He recently formatted his machine and now Yuri's Revenge runs just fine.

The slow downs usually have to do with some Windows Updates and the game's CD protection conflicting. Though this is not always the case, because I had the same problem with YR, but after some time it simply went away.

If you format and install a fresh copy of Windows. TS should return to a normal working order.

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Styledatol · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:29 pm Post subject:

@Tratos: Shutting Down explorer has produced problems for me, granted a restart fixed them. But most of the programs I consider vital were not working while others were slow.

@IcySon55: I'm not sure reformatting will fix the problem since I periodically reformat my PC. Infact, last time I installed TS was a few weeks after reformat (half a year ago-ish)