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Banshee
Supreme Banshee


Also Known As: banshee_revora (Steam)
Joined: 15 Aug 2002
Location: Brazil

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Right... Who's next to join Chielscape?


I really don't want to do that, but it seems that some people are just here to create more trouble in this place.

Isn't there a way to act and discuss things in a civil way?

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BrianPrime
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Joined: 26 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Banshee wrote:
Right... Who's next to join Chielscape?


I really don't want to do that, but it seems that some people are just here to create more trouble in this place.

Isn't there a way to act and discuss things in a civil way?


Yes, but it seems that nobody enjoys civility.

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bonzy_buddy
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Joined: 31 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I do.

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Oshog
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Joined: 02 Sep 2005
Location: Sofia, Bulgaria

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You know what's the worst thing about being civil? You ussually make a civil war >_>

Anyways, people, you're forgetting it IS Banshee's forum. His rules, his way. Not to mention, he should have done this months ago. Besides, it's not like anyone has stopped him from answering questions, helping people with stuff or anything. he just can't edit other people's posts and move and lock topics. Big WOW.

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BrianPrime
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Joined: 26 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Gosho wrote:
You know what's the worst thing about being civil? You ussually make a civil war >_>

Anyways, people, you're forgetting it IS Banshee's forum. His rules, his way. Not to mention, he should have done this months ago. Besides, it's not like anyone has stopped him from answering questions, helping people with stuff or anything. he just can't edit other people's posts and move and lock topics. Big WOW.


Truth.

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daTS
Mr. Moosey


Joined: 18 Feb 2005
Location: Star Kingdom of Manticore

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah, I'm asking the same question as Mei Ling...

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friday-13th
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Joined: 08 Aug 2005
Location: Toronto Ontario

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well,atleast this shows that brian should shape up as well.

A clear example that what you do in the past almost always affect the way people treat you.Even still,you've have'nt really changed my mind on what i think of you.Hopefuly,that would change.

And a heads up.f you were to say or do omsething imaginably stupid,then all the things you said here would be for nothing.

And probably the last comment on my arguement....
Yes chielscape,I haven't used that for 2 years cause I've never noticed it.Excuse me for never finding out aboout it,I'm not as "1337" or "Pro" as you guys.Please,don't mind the noob over here.

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Tratos
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Joined: 01 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Gosho wrote:
You know what's the worst thing about being civil? You ussually make a civil war >_>

Anyways, people, you're forgetting it IS Banshee's forum. His rules, his way. Not to mention, he should have done this months ago. Besides, it's not like anyone has stopped him from answering questions, helping people with stuff or anything. he just can't edit other people's posts and move and lock topics. Big WOW.


I think the main questions to answer here are;

1. Is removing DC's mod status going to change the attitude of any future posts?

2. is removing his mod status going to have a detrimental effect on the forum, i.e. with posts in the wrong place not being moved/locked/split etc...?

I would imagine the answer to the first will be no, the second, i have no idea, it will depend on who takes his place. But really, do the attitudes of the mods in a place this big really reflect on the forum anymore than the attitude of the regular members?

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Banshee
Supreme Banshee


Also Known As: banshee_revora (Steam)
Joined: 15 Aug 2002
Location: Brazil

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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1. Is removing DC's mod status going to change the attitude of any future posts?


That, alone, doesn't change anything. With a clear campaign against n00b bashing, I think it does.

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2. is removing his mod status going to have a detrimental effect on the forum, i.e. with posts in the wrong place not being moved/locked/split etc...?


Maybe. He did a great moderation job. This is unanymous. If we don't replace him with capable people, the forum quality drops.


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But really, do the attitudes of the mods in a place this big really reflect on the forum anymore than the attitude of the regular members?


Depends on how often these moderators post.

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Aro
Alcohol Fueled


Joined: 10 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Don't know what he was banned for... And i really don't care... You get banned for a reason, and most of the time, those reasons will stick.
Still, DCoder was God! Always made me laugh. We still have IcySon55 #Tongue

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Banshee
Supreme Banshee


Also Known As: banshee_revora (Steam)
Joined: 15 Aug 2002
Location: Brazil

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

DCODER was NOT banned


(And no, this is not the first time that this sentence appeared in this topic in a bold state).

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Sir Modsalot
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Joined: 28 Sep 2005
Location: Mixing psilocybin in your drinks.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Banshee wrote:
If we don't replace him with capable people, the forum quality drops.


D was capable enough for the position, and though I understand why you didn't think he had the right attitude for the job, it's important to know that when we decide who gets the position in his place, it will be more important to look at how they treat newbs/noobs than anything else, since that seems to be the majority of moderation work. Forum quality will drop regardless of what happens, however.

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BrianPrime
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Joined: 26 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Speaking of D, whatever happened to Detail? He was a great guy. Confused

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DeathRay2K
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Joined: 01 Sep 2002
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Lost interest?


Anyways, DCoder clearly isn't going to be made a mod again, so why is this thread still open?

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friday-13th
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Joined: 08 Aug 2005
Location: Toronto Ontario

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Aro wrote:
Don't know what he was banned for... And i really don't care... You get banned for a reason, and most of the time, those reasons will stick.
Still, DCoder was God! Always made me laugh. We still have IcySon55 #Tongue

Indeed,DCoder was the humour one....
Shhhhhhhhhh,you'll make IcySon feel like God!

BrianPrime wrote:
Gosho wrote:
You know what's the worst thing about being civil? You ussually make a civil war >_>

Anyways, people, you're forgetting it IS Banshee's forum. His rules, his way. Not to mention, he should have done this months ago. Besides, it's not like anyone has stopped him from answering questions, helping people with stuff or anything. he just can't edit other people's posts and move and lock topics. Big WOW.


Truth.

You know it's true that you start civil wars?!
VICTORY~! #Tongue

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m666
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Joined: 09 Apr 2005
Location: South Carolina

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This is useless. Banshee is silencing his opponents.

I am /r/ing a permab& rite naow, Banshee. I'm sick of this n00b haven.

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IcySon55
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Joined: 19 Nov 2003
Location: Overworld

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

friday-13th wrote:
Shhhhhhhhhh,you'll make IcySon feel like God!

Not really. I know how people perceive me here. I feel no different than before. #Tongue

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Alexander C Bukington
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Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

HEY EVERYONE HERE IS THE BIG QUESTION OF THE WWWWWHHHHHHHHOOOOLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEE THREAD.
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here it comes.........
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WHY DO YOU ALL CARE SO MUCH?










ooohhhh i cant wait to see who starts to harrass me about this! Ha it will be funny.

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Aro
Alcohol Fueled


Joined: 10 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

LOL I don't give a shit to be perfectly honest... He just made me laugh. #Tongue

Banshee wrote:
DCODER was NOT banned


Lets not forget who doesn't come on here every day and minute like a sad-act, i don't know what happened i just assumed, aye?... What happened then?

Edit: Don't matter... Rolling Eyes

Banshee wrote:
If we don't replace him with capable people, the forum quality drops.


Capable people aye? I Vote IcySon55 #Tongue

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Clazzy
Karma Police


Joined: 26 Nov 2002
Location: Algae Colony On Mars

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Topic over. Banshee's more-or-less (repeatedly) made his point clear, I don't fully agree with his decision but it's his to make. You're all fighting over petty things (let's call Prime a twat because we can and he can be his usual ego-filled bastard self, huzzah!) and getting warned/banned for it. Shut up, it's not making any of you look good, even if you brutally suck up to Banshee. Congratulations for having opinions, now have the sense to end this now.

Locked.

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Muldrake
Supreme Commander


Joined: 19 Sep 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wall of text. Read or don't. Your choice. Like most of my damn posts at the end of a hellstorm topic.

This is no heated debate. This is people just shouting as loud as they can, with a determined impression in their head, and not actually listening to a point to which makes them think and reconsider.
You can reconsider, and go back to your original conclusion, or you can reconsider and change your mind. But no one here is actually letting that happen.

Banshee's mind is set. Its not changing, I think thats pretty clear by now. And the continued bash on his decision is only going to make him even more defensive of it. Heck, he's banned two people because he was getting more defensive. If people were not getting as agressive as they were on this situation, you'd have probably found Banshee would have passed over it.

But the problem as people are so keen to keep bringing up, is no one persons fault. This forum's condition is not any one persons fault. It is the cumulative result of every single person here. It isn't just the n00bs, its peoples attitude towards them. It isn't just the actions, but the attitudes behind them.

Everybody here is just as guilty as the other person. Even me, I am no hero or any handful of roses.

But the answer is simple. Really fecking simple. If you want to help make this community work, then stay. If you can't stand it, and it annoys you. Then leave. Many people have. No one is chaining you here. Better yet, you think you can do a better job than Banshee, make your own forum. Again, many have. Rarely do they work.

Stop shouting. Start thinking. Start listening. Else go shout to yourself in a quiet corner, because I don't want to hear it, and I doubt anyone else does either, there is no gain from it here, other than winding up your nerves and trying to push your weight around.


Edit: Damn, Clazzy beat me to it. Damn my long post.

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