Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:21 pm Post subject:
Rock Patch Super Weapon Frenzy
Subject description: When released public resource, think of it like a tutorial mod
The basis of this "mod" is to simply test out all the features implemented in Rock Patch
Spy is using customised weapon cursors.
Thanks to Gamemate for cameos, I've also renabled the drop pod atmosphere entry actions and impact animations from
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When this mod is released, all assets can be used by modders but please credit this original mod and its authors and contributors
Allied General
Gamemate
Westwood
Rock Patch _________________ QUICK_EDIT
But, AlliedG, those aren't all the SWs, are they? From earlier things I've heard, you've got quite a list of SWs. Care to tell us more? _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Although im a fan of new super weapons being brought into the game via rock patch, I just think the patch itself is focusing to much on super weapons which cannot be used by mod's thats already released.....many of the features added are made for "works in progress" and veteran modders....leaving novice modders in the dark
seems like the RP neglects visual and other details such as fog of war, ice breaking, tree flamability ...etc
these can enhance any mod already out without it having to be re-coded QUICK_EDIT
I will definetly work on ETS, when its more "complete" when I get the chance SMIFFGIG
Visual details are mainly resource hogs or more complex then they seem, and what about Spotlight code being renabled, and terrain stuff? So I would not say RP ignores visual details per say.
What I like about the newest patch, is that is reasonably stable, its annoying if you added A LOT of RP features in older versions, but the added functions are worth it.
Finally drop pods are elite because of a RA2 engine and veterancy.
In TS, you cannot see veterancy until you actually click the unit. In RA2, you always see veterancy of units, hence the infantry in the pod is displaying his eliteness which is part of the coding of drop pods SW which means all infantry must be elite.
Also current supers that have added, which don't have graphical effects really are
* GPS Satellite (SpySat Type SW)
* Cash Hack (Money Type SW, gives free money)
* Emergency Repair (repairs vehicles, can repair enemy)
I plan to try and implement all the common ones like airstrikes, parabombs and then work on cnc generals one.
Hopefully it should inspire modders, and give a firm foundation of ini for novices to look at. (Even though I think most of the modding is of common sense ability)
Note that all supers will probably have some "issue" or workaround, for instant I can't literally have a Cash Hack like generals because the logic doesn't exist, but by using some imagination, you can have whatever you want.
Note that Multi and Chemical currently use Type=Fire, which would mean you couldn't have both supers on one building, however I will play around with nuke code and hopefully I can find a work around at a later date. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
1)not RA2 engine, but RP engine
2)it's elite, because I do it so
Firstly, YOU DID NOT MAKE THE ROCK PATCH! You took over a GREAT creation so stop acting so fúcking smug, you asshat. You've taken something awesome and turned it into utter shit not worth touching with a ten foot pole.
Secondly, maybe we don't want ELITE Drop Pods. It's unnecessary for one thing and should be INI-controlled instead more hardcoded bullshit.
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God I'm pissed right now. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
ey ey ey Infinity who da f*ck is you, rock patch is way better than it was before, when 1.08 was released, we had to wait 50 years for a dam bugfix, VK does it in days, he maybie act strange becuse all fools are irritade him very mutch, if it was me, i would shit on you complaning idiots and make rockpatch private. Last edited by Gaffel on Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:44 pm; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
Who am I? Beowulf, of course so I'm quite within a position to bitch. RPCE blows ass. It turned a project of mine into a minefield of errors but that's not even the issue. The big thing is that VK does all kinds of things without even consulting the community, which, if I recall correctly, is the entire reason this even exists! The RP serves little purpose if it adds features without making certain everything works in tandem without producing random IEs.
Besides, if VK had a better attitude and actually LISTENED to what we said instead of brushing it aside, no one would be bitching this loudly.
Now, anyway, as I was trying to say in my previous post... awesome work AG. Nice to see what you can do with the RP. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Er...Gaffel, RP is much worse now, because of all this widespread "bullshit" as CnCVK says. No 100% accurate documentation, CnCVK making new features that don't work right, messing up old features, and then, at RenegadeProjects, he thought to add he fixed 'other' stuff, and didn't say anything about it. Quite the "bullshit' that CnCVK seems to act like doesn't exist. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Also in ETS thread, why did you say I hate "RP" when I attempted to support an entire mod on newest version? with this mod announcement?
Also my comments there was to make all these TS wishlist and whiners be more supportive and professional and have focus upon stability.
Your gonna flame people who support the patch and try to give you back community feedback yet support retards who spam up a thread with demands or saying focus on ETS more?
Because I take time to give him feedback on errors and issues he misreads or doesn't understand what I type and instead thinks I am trying to "bash" his ego and thus just says bullshit or thinks I am lying instead of asking for clarification.
Also for the last 8 versions of RP Gaffel, I never saw such widespread anger over how this patch is being run be it from silent observers (like Blade) to more active ones like PAD and Fenring/Beowulf.
Everyone just boycott the patch and let your anti-RP/ETS voice under VK leadership be heard. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Well, the thing that DropPods bring only elite units is stupid. Want to know why? Because RP also gives the ability for unique units to turn into other units, thus making a big mess when mixing both logics. So VK, please take it out.
Otherwise, I can't complain much about RPCE. It could be better, but that's all we have for now. QUICK_EDIT
CnCVK making new features that don't work right, messing up old features, and then, at RenegadeProjects,
Bullshit totally - all old features works in RPCE fine.
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didn't say anything about it
You don't need to know where, I changed bytes and why.
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when I attempted to support an entire mod on newest version? with this mod announcement?
because see all other your posts about RP.
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have focus upon stability.
RPCE don't cause random IE, RPCE don't cause reconnection errors
it the most stable RP, which you ever saw _________________ ARM forever - x86 sucks QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject:
C&CVK wrote:
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didn't say anything about it
You don't need to know where, I changed bytes and why.
Just a little observation about this point: Sometimes the programmer does some code optimizations, change internal variable names or do some kind of things that won't affect the final product at all, but makes the program more legible to be programmed. In this case, nobody put these changes in a readme. QUICK_EDIT
Bullshit totally - all old features works in RPCE fine.
Yeah... IF you start your mod with the bogus CE version. Else, old features break because you decided, without so much as a warning, to change shit that didn't need changing. This hardly qualifies as 'working.'
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You don't need to know where, I changed bytes and why.
If it alters a tag of some sort, I DO need to know.
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RPCE don't cause random IE, RPCE don't cause reconnection errors
it the most stable RP, which you ever saw
No it isn't. It creates bugs and errors in mods using old versions. Given that, RPCE is far from bugfree. _________________ Last edited by Beowulf on Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:31 pm; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
Bullshit totally - all old features works in RPCE fine.
No, they don't, you even said yourself not to use the [NUKE] warhead, which made us wait on another confusing revision for that to be fixed. You changed many LS Clone tags for no obvious reason, which has no doubt broken discontinued mods.
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RPCE don't cause random IE, RPCE don't cause reconnection errors
it the most stable RP, which you ever saw
No it isn't. Even 1.07b, with its awful NewRad problem, was much more stable than its successors in my opinion. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
I think this vocal minority constantly trying to stamp down on CnCVK's work is a bit unfair. For a start I think we have a bit of a language barrier so certain nuances in what people say might not be understood by CnCVK and it also makes him seem more blunt than perhaps he intends. It also makes it harder to write good english documentation for him. Also, RPCE does seem to be more stable IMO, if you are having problems migrating over your code that relies on changed RP tags, perhaps you should have commented your code better so you knew where they all were. You also have the option of just shipping an older RP version with your mod where things did work. Yeah, I agree that he could do with listening to suggestions a bit more frequently and taking on more feedback, but at the end of the day, he knows how to hack assembly and we don't. Stop having a go at teh guy all the time, I think he's got the idea now. QUICK_EDIT
so many complaning ppl here, why did anyone said anything when 1.08 version was out? It was the worst version EVER, and it took VERY LONG TIME for a bugfix version with had bugs to. And now when VK are fixing them very fast are you complaning about things that dont exist, i never had any problem with RPCE, Fenring or Beowolf or new name your codes most be f*cked not the patch QUICK_EDIT
Er...I REALLY doubt that Beo would screw up coding. I'd know from playing his mods, and knowing him personally. So...know what you're talking about before you criticize his code.
I'd much rather have a version of RP with slowly arriving fixes but more working features at one time than this crappy RP hitting us with 3 revisions / 2 weeks. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
You don't need to know where, I changed bytes and why.
By that same logic, if we don't need to know what you did, you didn't need to mention it at all. Nobody would have known, and nobody would have thrown a tantrum over it.
On that same note, there are way too many topics in different places arguing about how bad RPCE is, can't you guys just pick one damn topic, argue in it and leave the other ones for decent discussion? QUICK_EDIT
Who am I? Beowulf, of course so I'm quite within a position to bitch.
ROFL, you vein fucked up shit. Nothing gives anyone the right to bitch over anyone else's work. CnCVK is doing a fine job especially since he is doing it out of free will. If it wasn't for him RockPatch would be forgotten with nobody working on it.
Especially don't bitch over it when your using it, if it fucked up your mod then stop using it instead of saying its shit. It wasn't made for you, and works for the majority. QUICK_EDIT
ROFL, you vein fucked up shit. Nothing gives anyone the right to bitch over anyone else's work. CnCVK is doing a fine job especially since he is doing it out of free will. If it wasn't for him RockPatch would be forgotten with nobody working on it.
Delicious. Banshee is ALL OVER my post but misses this one. FUN! Oh well... not to worry I'm not even batting an eye to this cause it's so crude... so forced. I just laugh cause it's so lame.
ANYWAY... I'll tell you this Bolt: I am perfectly within my rights to bitch. The Rock Patch is a product, I am one of its many consumers. If I am dissatisfied, I am perfectly within my rights as a consumer to bitch. I wasn't the only dissatisfied with its direction either so kindly shut your cakehole. </rant>
Either way, it doesn't matter. Problems are being addressed and resolved... and, hell, I already gave VK props for being so quick about his revisions... even if the system itself gets confusing.
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Everybody stop bitching about the RP.
If you read everything more carefully, it was never about less patch itself. It was more about VK's attitude and making big changes without proper documentation. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Chill, cat, chill... no need to swear, man.
Besides, since when is this forum about the RP directly, eh?
(Yeah I know hippy to canadian, what do you want)
Anywho, looks like most everything works. Good job. Not hard, but eh, test mods are always good. _________________ "Don't beg for things; Do it yourself or you'll never get anything." QUICK_EDIT
Nothing gives anyone the right to bitch over anyone else's work.
Actually, we should all have the right to bitch over everyone else's work. It's just their right to not listen to us if they so choose.
I personally won't use the RPCE, and I feel that yes, PaD was a better leader of RP development, but hey, that's the risk you run with this kind of stuff. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:20 am Post subject:
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Rattuskid: would you like if you just release a mod and i said like, you mod are sucks, you are shit, change that..
So you say the mod is crap then give constructive criticism? I'd be happy to have any good ideas and changes you may have. That's the idea of being a community, you try and give helpful advice where it's needed and, if you're sensible, you take up the advice and improve. Wash, rinse, repeat. _________________
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This is sexier than what this forum was supposed to tolerate. - Banshee
Yes, but you cannot give constructive criticism if you don't understand the problems lying therein.
Besides I really don't think swearing at someone is very "constructive," you know?
Anyway, I am sure the problems or "bugs" are being addressed as we speak.
And here I was thinking this was a mod forum and was about AG's Superweapon Test Mod... _________________ "Don't beg for things; Do it yourself or you'll never get anything." QUICK_EDIT
Rattuskid: would you like if you just release a mod and i said like, you mod are sucks, you are shit, change that..
Frankly, I have no clue who you really are, so my first reaction to just a 'this sucks' statement would be to ignore it. Acknowledging an ass only encourages him.
If you said, on the other hand "This sucks because there are too many useless units and X is broken" then you have valid points I could choose to address, dependant upon how I want people to come away from my mod feeling.
See, still free speech has uses. I know in Shitstainistan you guys may not believe in free speech or the internet or criticism, but hey, I do. Tough turds. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
See, still free speech has uses. I know in Shitstainistan you guys may not believe in free speech or the internet or criticism, but hey, I do. Tough turds.
Even though I agree 100% with you Rattuskid, I must say this - free speech is not owned exclusivelly by the Western world. I really dislike how you westerners take it as a part of your cultural and social life only. [/rant] Last edited by Oshog on Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:27 pm; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
There is nothing to disscus here. Dont like - dont use. That is ALL. but im going to use PRCE in future and all next versions of RockPatch. _________________ Gangster is a Project Perfect Wuj (c)Aro QUICK_EDIT
Even though I agree 100% with you Rattuskid, I must say this - free speech is not owned exclusivelly by the Western world. I really dislike how you westerners take it as a part of your cultural and social life only. [/rant]
What the hell are you even talking about? That was completely unnecessary. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:48 am Post subject:
To download what? RP? NPatch? RP2? ETS? Some other user-made patch which adds new functions?
No, seriously: for RockPatch and RockPatch2 (which is not ready atm) look here, and for NPatch and ETS look here
Just a small note: nobody is doing anything anymore about the original RockPatch.
NPatch is the new version of RockPatch, created by VK.
RockPatch2 is the unofficial new version of RockPatch, created by PaD, the official (and only) creator of RockPatch.
ETS is something like RockPatch, only for Tiberian Sun, created by VK. QUICK_EDIT
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Rock Patch Super Weapon Frenzy
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