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Shakar
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:28 pm    Post subject:  phal.vxl? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hello, I'm new here. Anywho, I was looking through the mix files of RA2, and I found a unit that I have no clue what so ever what it is supposed to be. All I know, is that the file is called phal.vxl, and I've no clue what it's purpose was going to be. Could it be the XComet unit they were planning on putting in, but never got around to it due to EA?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:51 pm    Post subject: Re: phal.vxl? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Shakar wrote:
Hello, I'm new here. Anywho, I was looking through the mix files of RA2, and I found a unit that I have no clue what so ever what it is supposed to be. All I know, is that the file is called phal.vxl, and I've no clue what it's purpose was going to be. Could it be the XComet unit they were planning on putting in, but never got around to it due to EA?

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f194/Black_Highwind/phal_000.jpg


they just misspelled. it should've been phayl.vxl

XD

nah, j/k. dont really know TBH.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

So this is another one of the hidden voxels...the FORTRESS.vxl is one of the more famous ones. the XComet is supposed to fire CometFragment and TeslaFragment I think...not sure =/

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wasn't XComet just a dummy for the Prism fragment weapon or something like that?

And phal.vxl used to get used as a Chrono Tank alot.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Daz wrote:
Wasn't XComet just a dummy for the Prism fragment weapon or something like that?
Yes. It was never meant to be an actual unit, just a hack for cluster weapons, like the weedguy.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Phal.vxl stands for Phalanx Tank, a hovering phase/chrono tank.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

looks cool though....

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Nobody ever said it was a hovering Chrono or Phase tank. It was just assumed by DeeZire and everybody calls it a chronotank

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Shakar
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

So that means that this is a mystery unit basically... Could be neat to use in some mods though, with whatever function you want to have with it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread




its purdy. i definitly using this in me mod.

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Destiny
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It looks a bit like the Harkonnen Missile Tank to me...lol. It looks pretty nice though. No cameos #Tongue

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

DCoder wrote:
Daz wrote:
Wasn't XComet just a dummy for the Prism fragment weapon or something like that?
Yes. It was never meant to be an actual unit, just a hack for cluster weapons, like the weedguy.


Specifically, it was just named such because it was a placeholder for the meteor clusters in the meteor storm effect on some TS/FS maps. They broke into smaller pieces. The name was just never changed throughout the games, although it is interesting to see new people creating elaborate backstories for just simple naming convention quirks.

Like the stories about how the conscripts could get US made carbines or whatnot.

Also, it's the Phallus tank. It calls in George Zimmer much like Boris calls in MiGs, and the man just beats other units to death with his potent palpatating phallus. It has a secondary anti-air dildo launcher.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I found something named phalicon.shp, I presume it's the cameo...and I extracted a lot of other stuff from the mixes...and a very unlikely logo.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Rattuskid wrote:
Also, it's the Phallus tank. It calls in George Zimmer much like Boris calls in MiGs, and the man just beats other units to death with his potent palpatating phallus. It has a secondary anti-air dildo launcher.
I find your ideas intriguing, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Quote:
It has a secondary anti-air dildo launcher.


Hah! Quoted cause it made me laugh!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Another piece of excluded gold(just like the ICBM cameo placeholder in TS)

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well, consdiering how it looks, it's hard to tell what it is.

It is reminicent of the prerelease Corkscrew Transport, so it might have been an amphibious missile launcher. In fact, I'm going to go with that. Corkscrew Missile Launcher.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Looks like the transport in the intro movie when the ships move into the bay

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yea, you're right. The sovvie's dreadnoughts were accompanied by some boat that has a fan/turbine behind it, and a rotating turret firing dread missiles if I remember...

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Destiny wrote:
Yea, you're right. The sovvie's dreadnoughts were accompanied by some boat that has a fan/turbine behind it, and a rotating turret firing dread missiles if I remember...


That's the Hydrofoil, the one the Sea Scorpion replaced (the voxel is fairly similar, it just lacks the turbines and the missiles are replaced with the flack-pop gun). Soviets were more missile-based faction in the beginning stages of RA2.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks to EA for ruining it, eh? Guessed the sov's weren't too happy being high-tech #Tongue

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Great, first TS fans, now RA fans Confused QUICKLY!!! LOCK THIS TOPIC BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Destiny wrote:
Thanks to EA for ruining it, eh? Guessed the sov's weren't too happy being high-tech #Tongue


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Quote:
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You never told me where to get it from, you bad person. #Tongue

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The Soviets weren't meant to be high tech probably to fit with the Cold War established (and RA fueled) idea that Russians are big and stupid.

Quite funny,though, and makes more sense for the S.U. to use flak, especially since the AA cannon in RA is a ground based Zsu-XX turret.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Instead the allies should be SAM-ing and the Reds AA Gunning. Guess they were...bored?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Mei Ling wrote:
The Soviets weren't meant to be high tech probably to fit with the Cold War established (and RA fueled) idea that Russians are big and stupid.

Quite funny,though, and makes more sense for the S.U. to use flak, especially since the AA cannon in RA is a ground based Zsu-XX turret.


In Red Alert, Soviets were a high-tech faction. They used U2 spy-planes (which is US technology #Tongue), Tesla coils/tanks, Mutually Assured Destruction tanks, cyborgs, fighter jets, Subs armed with SCUDs, and the Soviets were the first ones to create the atomic bomb in RA fiction.

Ironically, the Allies were less high-tech. Excluding the Chronosphere and Gap Generator.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

it was a chrono tank, if i'm not mistake, i saw it in mooman's rules awhile ago. Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Repeat after me, kids: "MooMan did not create this voxel. MooMan just used an existing but unused voxel. That voxel's original purpose has not been disclosed by Westwood. Simply because MooMan used it as a chrono tank doesn to mean it was originally intended to be that. And since DCoder was kind enough to explain this mind-numbingly obvious sequence of thoughts without setting me on fire, I will give him all my money tomorrow."

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hey wait a minute.... thats the chrono tank from moomans rules Laughing jk
Rattuskid wrote:
Also, it's the Phallus tank. It calls in George Zimmer much like Boris calls in MiGs, and the man just beats other units to death with his potent palpatating phallus. It has a secondary anti-air dildo launcher.
DCoder wrote:
I find your ideas intriguing, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
how did i miss that! Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

wait...... moo mans rules had a chrono tank? no wonder that tank looks so familiar...... hey! DCODER! where can i download the chrono tank?

Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ok, can we just please close this topic? All I wanted to know was what it's purpose was going to be in the game, and you have all given some nice theories. Thank you, and please, lock this topic before more spam enters it ><

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Not a U2. Stop referring to Westwood's shit ini names, they mean nothing. The sprite is a MiG 1.44 testbed aircraft(built by the Mikoyan fighter corporation as a testbed for designing future MiG craft to compete with things like the Eurofighter.), which, is in Generals. The MiG in RA is also a real fighter, The MiG-27 Flogger-D.

(Inb4/20 people post pics of a MiG-29 Fulcrum.)

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I think this'll be locked, nothing really needs adding to this topic.

Yeah phal.vxl gets used as Chrono Tank a lot in mods due to resemblances. Nobody really knows why it's there, they're just unused assets people play around with.

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