Amphibious Unit transitions

Lt Albrecht

I'm just curious, I heart that it is possible using APC/APCW but only those two. I was just wondering about the code involved and any errors I might incur...

Probably a one-post answer, but I would still ike to know, I might use it for something.

(hides in hole wearing steel helmet waiting for a verbal bombardment from Dcoder, realises it isn't a literal bombardment and gets some earmuffs instead).

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Dutchygamer · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject:

I don't think that logic is anymore supported in RA2... So in short: no Wink

Lt Albrecht · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject:

I heard somewhere that it ONLY works on APC/APCW, you know your way around AI.ini like I know the way around my house, but I want someone like PD or whatever to come over and make sure. Thanks though Smile

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John Galt · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:02 pm Post subject:

LOL, why are you afraid of me? That was a perfectly reasonable question. (The only reason I could feel iffy right now is that you miscapitalised my nick, but that is hardly a reason to start screaming.)
As to the question, all I know thus far is that the game does indeed load a special extra voxel for a unit called [APC], but I do not know how or when or even if that gets activated.

Lt Albrecht · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject:

Thanks
I'm not afraid it's just that most of the Time I see your posts it's saying some sort of criticism. and I shall say only two other words "lemming" and "suicide" Laughing

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John Galt · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject:

Hey, you reap what you sow. Intelligent question == useful reply. n00b question == mockery. #Tongue

Lt Albrecht · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject:

Amen, thanks for the answer. (then PD/VK comes along and tells us when/why the game loads said special voxel and how we can make it under specific circumstances or in RP/Np/RP2 there is XXX piece of code that does it).

I can always hope Laughing

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Rattuskid · Sergeant **Joined**: 01 Sep 2003 **Location**: Jersey,new

After having tested it, I can say with a fair bit of certainty that the APC/APCW trick does not work in YR... It may have for RA2, or even 1.000 of YR, but not if fully patched.

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Team Black · Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:55 am Post subject:

this is not research m8, unless you have conclusive results -
posting codes and screenies and such.. Otherwise, it should be demoted to RA2 editing

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Lt Albrecht · Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:11 am Post subject:

Research conclusion:
The code is gone and it does not work, therefore I'm off to the RP2 bug tracker to request that it get put back in Smile

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Ickus · General **Joined**: 25 Nov 2002 **Location**: @__@

you can make a .SHP and go that route. #Tongue

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Dupl3xxx · Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject:

the code still works!
I saw it in a mini mod "crazy rules" some time ago. There it was this unit that "sunk" into the water when it entered.
Isn't there any TS modders that can check the ini's?
I should have at least one line of code telling the game to use the APCW....

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CCHyper · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Apr 2005

Nope, the game is hardcoded to only do that for the object named [APC], then it appends W to that filename and loads the art with that name.

Might be simple to allow it for all units in TS...

Tratos · General **Joined**: 01 Jan 2003

Moved, if it becomes research ill move it back.

Team Black · Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject:

both the APC and APCW voxels are already in the RA2 mixes IIRC, it shouldn't be hard at all to just code in a vehicle named [APC] and see what happens..

post screenies and code please to show results

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CCHyper · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Apr 2005

Hehe, HP will have the Amphibious water logic for all UnitTypes Smile

Lt Albrecht · Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:41 am Post subject:

yeah, but HP is a...

TS project

DAMN!!! Lock him in the tower of london!(which I went to yesterday)

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CCHyper · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Apr 2005

Lol...

The only reason i dont see it working in RA2 would be a change to the Amphibious movement zone or the Water detection, because of the ships...

Lt Albrecht · Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject:

awww... ah well, off to the RP2 bugtracker to request that it works 100% in RP2

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Rattuskid · Sergeant **Joined**: 01 Sep 2003 **Location**: Jersey,new

The movement zones for amphibious stuff got all messed up in Ra2 for the anticipation of the corkscrew transport and landing craft...

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Lt Albrecht · Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject:

damn, so by addin canbeach and the ship logic they screwed up the amphibious logic? awww...

thanks though

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Rattuskid · Sergeant **Joined**: 01 Sep 2003 **Location**: Jersey,new

I'm not saying it's certain, but I remember my attempts at recreating the effect didn't pan out, even after cross referrencing the TS rules.ini.

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Lt Albrecht · Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:39 am Post subject:

ok, thanks for your time.

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AprilWar · Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:56 pm Post subject:

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The problem that westwood had were the terrain types i.e. [Beach]. You no longer can have tanks or infantry in beach without getting stucked.

You HAVE to use FloatBeach in landing crafts. Because it's easier to manipulate.

The CanBeach tag DOESNT work. At least not for me.

The only problem Amphibious units is the removal of the TS AmphibiousCruher logic (Thats why your APC wont work correctly) What you can do is add a SHP animation with the image of the apcw and put it as a trailer in the water

Locomotors , Speedtype & movementzone have nothing to do with each other. One will show the way it moves, the another one will specify where it can be moved, and the last one will show you how it works while moving- You should take this for your advantage.

After this im updating my LCRF tut. I found a better way Smile

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