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Best free 3d program to use?
Gmax
15%
 15%  [ 2 ]
Maya (personal learning edition)
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 84%  [ 11 ]
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:22 am    Post subject:  Best free 3d program to use? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

so?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blender, vastly superior to Gmax (which is obsolete AFAIK) and doesn't have the restrictions on use that Maya PLE has.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

.ǝɔɐɟɹǝʇuı sʇı ɹoɟ ɹǝɟǝɹd ı ɥɔıɥʍ 'xɐɯ sp3 sı os ʇnq 'ɯɐɹboɹd 11nɟɹǝʍod ɐ sı ɹǝpuǝ1q
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Arrgh! i put blender in the poll but it clearly hasn't shown up.
gmax=obselete? i've got Gmax, its proving pretty difficult to work out though, i don't want to waste my time learning how to use one program when another is far better...

I didn't put 3dsmax up there cause its not free, so i might give blender a shot.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Give the Blender n00b to pro wikibook a go if you are going to get into blender, that got me used to its interface (which departs from the windows standard by a large margin). I've also developed a basic blend file for making stuff for RA2 in the approximately correct perspective and a render workflow that allows to you remove AA to the background while still having AA on the model.

GMax interface is similar to the version of 3DSMax that was released around the same time IIRC.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Just for lulz... Anim8or...
Blender is too hard to use. Too much crap added to it! too many options.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

anim8or is a good learning tool, but if you have vista, you're out of luck...XP i would highly recomend it htough.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

3DS Max #Tongue

All others fail. (IMO)

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

gufu wrote:
Just for lulz... Anim8or...
Blender is too hard to use. Too much crap added to it! too many options.


Being hard to use is an argument I've seen against blender many times and from my experience is simply isn't true. It has a different way of doing things from the windows norm so there is a learning curve for the UI but once you get used to it, I personally think it has a good interface. I find it easier to use than 3DS Max, but like many things its down to personal preference. Loads of options is par for the course for a serious 3D program so I really don't get your argument there.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ChielScape wrote:
.ǝɔɐɟɹǝʇuı sʇı ɹoɟ ɹǝɟǝɹd ı ɥɔıɥʍ 'xɐɯ sp3 sı os ʇnq 'ɯɐɹboɹd 11nɟɹǝʍod ɐ sı ɹǝpuǝ1q
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yea I am a Max user, but when your going into an industry that can throw so many different programs you got to get over the UI's name real quick.

I used Maya and Max. I like both, Maya has more under its hood, but since Autodesk got maya, they are starting to share a lot of features.

I definately prefer Maya for its handle on rigging. I like max for modeling stuff out, but thats because I started out on it and I am more familiar with it than maya ...eventually it doesn't matter anymore. Maybe for a few key things. here or there. are fundamentally different but 3d principles are the pretty much same.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

BrianPrime wrote:
ChielScape wrote:
.ǝɔɐɟɹǝʇuı sʇı ɹoɟ ɹǝɟǝɹd ı ɥɔıɥʍ 'xɐɯ sp3 sı os ʇnq 'ɯɐɹboɹd 11nɟɹǝʍod ɐ sı ɹǝpuǝ1q
.ǝʇǝ1osqo sı xɐɯb 'sǝʎ


˙zǝǝƃ

¡ssɐqɯnp ɐ ƃuıǝq doʇs uǝɥʇ 'ǝʇıɹʍ noʎ ʇɐɥʍ ʎlsnoıɹǝs pɐǝɹ oʇ ǝldoǝd ʇuɐʍ noʎ ɟı puɐ 'uoɹoɯ ɐ ƃuıǝq doʇs os ˙llɐ ʇɐ pǝʇɐlǝɹ ʇou ǝɹɐ ʎǝɥʇ 'ʇɔɐɟ uı ˙noʎ ɹoɟ ʇı sǝop ɯdd uɐǝɯ ʇou sǝop ʇxǝʇ sdılɟ ʇɐɥʇ ǝʇısqǝʍ ɐ ǝsn oʇ uǝddɐɥ noʎ ǝsnɐɔǝq ʇsnɾ ˙ʎllıs ʇıq ɐ ʇǝƃ oʇ ƃuıʇɹɐʇs ǝɹ,noʎ 'ǝdɐɔslıǝɥɔ

i wasnt using a webite to flip my text untill now. to flip it BACK! theres something evil going on i tell ya.

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ChielScape wrote:
BrianPrime wrote:
ChielScape wrote:
.ǝɔɐɟɹǝʇuı sʇı ɹoɟ ɹǝɟǝɹd ı ɥɔıɥʍ 'xɐɯ sp3 sı os ʇnq 'ɯɐɹboɹd 11nɟɹǝʍod ɐ sı ɹǝpuǝ1q
.ǝʇǝ1osqo sı xɐɯb 'sǝʎ


˙zǝǝƃ

¡ssɐqɯnp ɐ ƃuıǝq doʇs uǝɥʇ 'ǝʇıɹʍ noʎ ʇɐɥʍ ʎlsnoıɹǝs pɐǝɹ oʇ ǝldoǝd ʇuɐʍ noʎ ɟı puɐ 'uoɹoɯ ɐ ƃuıǝq doʇs os ˙llɐ ʇɐ pǝʇɐlǝɹ ʇou ǝɹɐ ʎǝɥʇ 'ʇɔɐɟ uı ˙noʎ ɹoɟ ʇı sǝop ɯdd uɐǝɯ ʇou sǝop ʇxǝʇ sdılɟ ʇɐɥʇ ǝʇısqǝʍ ɐ ǝsn oʇ uǝddɐɥ noʎ ǝsnɐɔǝq ʇsnɾ ˙ʎllıs ʇıq ɐ ʇǝƃ oʇ ƃuıʇɹɐʇs ǝɹ,noʎ 'ǝdɐɔslıǝɥɔ

i wasnt using a webite to flip my text untill now. to flip it BACK! theres something evil going on i tell ya.

这是什么语言!!!!!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

3dsmax

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Which part of best FREE 3D software did you not get? While it is certainly possible to obtain 3DSMax for greatly reduced cost or free, unless you live in a country that does not recognise other countries copyrights, you could potentially face a civil suit or even criminal charges. While I may or may not be willing to take such risks upon myself I would be weary of advising anyone else to do so who may not be as aware of the risks as I am. As a result I don't consider 3DSMax to be free (of charge) software.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

sorry

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blade wrote:
Which part of best FREE 3D software did you not get? While it is certainly possible to obtain 3DSMax for greatly reduced cost or free, unless you live in a country that does not recognise other countries copyrights, you could potentially face a civil suit or even criminal charges. While I may or may not be willing to take such risks upon myself I would be weary of advising anyone else to do so who may not be as aware of the risks as I am. As a result I don't consider 3DSMax to be free (of charge) software.

In Soviet Russia, software pirates you! In Soviet Ukrain only a few people seen an actual legal software product.

In case of piracy, I blame the US...

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Not if they insist on using windows and windows based programs they won't, there are products available in the right price range that are competitive on features for most desktop needs if they really were concerned about keeping legal though :p

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blade wrote:
Not if they insist on using windows and windows based programs they won't, there are products available in the right price range that are competitive on features for most desktop needs if they really were concerned about keeping legal though :p


Are you telling us to use macs! Confused

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gufu wrote:
Blade wrote:
Not if they insist on using windows and windows based programs they won't, there are products available in the right price range that are competitive on features for most desktop needs if they really were concerned about keeping legal though :p


Are you telling us to use macs! Confused


Macs are really good.

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BrianPrime wrote:
gufu wrote:
Blade wrote:
Not if they insist on using windows and windows based programs they won't, there are products available in the right price range that are competitive on features for most desktop needs if they really were concerned about keeping legal though :p


Are you telling us to use macs! Confused


Macs are really good.


This is a gaming forum. Are you in wrong place accidently?

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BrianPrime wrote:
gufu wrote:
Blade wrote:
Not if they insist on using windows and windows based programs they won't, there are products available in the right price range that are competitive on features for most desktop needs if they really were concerned about keeping legal though :p


Are you telling us to use macs! Confused


Macs are really good.


This had me literally laughing out loud, jokes like this never get old.

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Clazzy wrote:
BrianPrime wrote:
gufu wrote:
Blade wrote:
Not if they insist on using windows and windows based programs they won't, there are products available in the right price range that are competitive on features for most desktop needs if they really were concerned about keeping legal though :p


Are you telling us to use macs! Confused


Macs are really good.


This had me literally laughing out loud, jokes like this never get old.


No seriously, macs are incredibly reliable, aesthetically pleasing, and have great audio editing/composing software for them.

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BrianPrime wrote:
Clazzy wrote:
BrianPrime wrote:
gufu wrote:
Blade wrote:
Not if they insist on using windows and windows based programs they won't, there are products available in the right price range that are competitive on features for most desktop needs if they really were concerned about keeping legal though :p


Are you telling us to use macs! Confused


Macs are really good.


This had me literally laughing out loud, jokes like this never get old.


No seriously, macs are incredibly reliable, aesthetically pleasing, and have great audio editing/composing software for them.


No one cares. :V:

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I think the point BP is that gaming isn't all that big on macs, though I agree with you to a point. Macs are reliable since they have limited hardware configurations and a rock solid unix based operating system. Mac OS is too locked down IMO though and I prefer Linux for my stable unix like OS. Still there is Wine and Darwine (that latter being a specific port of wine to OS X) which can now run many windows games reasonably well.

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Mac users have a false sense of security now because vulnerabilities are being found more often. Most Mac users I know are pretentious bastards who think they know better when they don't have a clue while the rest just have more money than sense. Using a Mac is like taking Calpol (link for the non-Brits among you), it tastes nice but it doesn't make you feel better.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

While there are many Mac users who are pretentious bastards, that doesn't change the fact that there are no viruses for the system that can infect automatically. There are proof of concept trojans and malware that you need to type a password to make install, a lot more secure than installing malware by visiting a website in windows. Linux and BSD distros provide the same security benefits as a Mac of course.

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if the viruses were known about, then they would be fail. If alot more people use Macs, then the forty year old guy in his mom's basement may start making a few virus for the mac attack.

Personally, I don't like Macs because they don't have a start bar.

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While there are many Mac users who are pretentious bastards, that doesn't change the fact that there are no viruses for the system that can infect automatically. There are proof of concept trojans and malware that you need to type a password to make install, a lot more secure than installing malware by visiting a website in windows. Linux and BSD distros provide the same security benefits as a Mac of course.

In all fairness, you could say the same about Vista with UAC, the user has to give permission for the application to run as root. However, any sort of infection can run as the user and make them lose all their data which is still very bad. I don't run any antivirus on Windows or Linux because I know better (and haven't had any chance of getting a virus on four years) but people tend not to run them on Macs because they think they're invulnerable. Ultimately, being closed source doesn't make it less likely for exploits to be found, it just slows down how long it takes to find the exploit and how long it takes for them to release a fix whereas with open source the exploit may be located quickly but a fix is usually uploaded upstream very quickly.

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if the viruses were known about, then they would be fail. If alot more people use Macs, then the forty year old guy in his mom's basement may start making a few virus for the mac attack.

In all fairness, about 0.8% of computers out there are Macs (forgive me for not knowing the exact amount, something like 2% of laptops are but I doubt many servers or desktops are) which is probably about 1 million.

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Personally, I don't like Macs because they don't have a start bar.

But the Taskbar implementation in Windows isn't very well implemented, I quite like the Dock idea, which is why I use something similar on Linux although I only have my most used programs there and not everything (which would just clutter everything).

Anyway, there are plenty of other reasons to hate Macs other than their fanboi userbase. The main reason to use a Mac was the PPC architecture but now that's gone and they're using x86 instead.

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Exactly, its just an expensive x86 computer with the only benefit being good build quality (which is dropping to meet volume and price expectations of newer customers) and a solid OS. You are right, Vista is so far much more resistant to system pwning malware since its harder for it to install beyond a single user profile. Remote exploits that don't require root access to be effective are the only ones true viruses can use and pwned windows xp a few times during its lifecycle.

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