Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:31 pm Post subject:
IVI SPHAFV-5 Lancer Mk.II
Subject description: rehash of an old model
The IVI SPHAFV-5 Lancer has been upgraded with a more spacious turret, a more powerful mass driver, and a new weapon system.
The Lancer had always experienced trouble when faced with armor. Its mass driver used to propel HE shells only, which aren't very effective against ceramic armored tanks and IFVs. Lancer pilots often just outmaneouvred heavy armor to avoid them.
The new PWN rocket launcher outfitted with the upgraded version is the Lancer pilot's new bestfriend when dealing with heavy armor.
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject:
Nice work on this, has a convincing looking hover body.
Corsair would probably scold you though, as he believes cannons - especially on turrets - on hover-chassis would make too much recoil for them to be practical _________________ The Fall of Hammerfest - Epic Tiberian chain story
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That's actually quite cool
And theoretically you could have a cannon on a hover vehicle if you have something to counteract the cannon's recoil or a particularly effective recoil mechanism. _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
But correct me if I'm wrong but Mass Drivers ought to have much much less recoil accelerating projectiles as opposed to conventional Primer+warhead weapons would it not?
At Lin,
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The tank looks good, although I would've went with a more solid colour scheme. _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
But correct me if I'm wrong but Mass Drivers ought to have much much less recoil accelerating projectiles as opposed to conventional Primer+warhead weapons would it not?
not....really
simple laws of physics still hold ( action = -reaction )
so to fire a projectile at a certain speed in either acceleration system would be very close, the only possible extra source of recoil in conventional tank weaponry is when the shell leaves the barrel, and the pressure behind it pushes against the air, instead of against the shell. _________________ Micro TS
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but while for a conventional cannon, the whole recoil energy is unleashed at a very short time,
a mass driver propels the projectile over several (milli)seconds, what gives a hovercraft enough time to steer in the opposite direction and correct the recoil. _________________ SHP Artist of Twisted Insurrection: Nod buildings
I've always thought that mass drivers were supposed to accelerate a projectile by means of synchronized attraction/repulsion by a series of coils. I can't really place the third law on that situation. _________________ "War.... war never changes....." QUICK_EDIT
who says the barrel of the cannon can't be suspended in the air via magnets? It would never touch the tank, so it wouldn't be rocked with it (although controlling the barrel could be a problem, but in the future, everything is taken care of). _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
If the barrel was suspended in air with magnets, the barrel would most likely shoot out the back of the turret, or if there was a magnet behind that to stop it, it would repel it shooting forward.
EDIT: Unless they're perfectly balanced, heavy duty, electromagnets.
LKO has the best possible theory, if it already has a propulsion system since it is floating, why can they not have countermeasures built into the main computer that shoot the tank forward milliseconds before the shot? I would think it easy if they got the "hovering" thing down so well.
Physics 101 anyone?
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:53 pm Post subject:
There's also electric lifter (30000V on small triangle), but it should require mobile fusion plant and it 'll be pretty dangerous not only to the enemy...
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I know there is a bow and arrow set that instead od having the arrow rest on the bow, there is a magnetic ring that holds it suspended in air, thus allowing for you to launch it without making a noise.
Or since i like magnets, why not have the cannon be magnetic propulsion so it does not have back fire at all? _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
What about a tube that runs out the back of the turret allowing the pressure of the shot to be vented back. _________________ Comcast: Yo dawg we herd yo were downloading, so we put fail in yo modem so yo cant download while yo failin! Last edited by Apex on Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:15 pm; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
Look, I'll post the drawing I made for this last year to show what I mean (and the wolverine drawing I made that I forgot to submit).
1.)The turret assembly is just like that of a modern tank, i.e. the barrel is fixed to the turret (no magnetic suspensions or anything).
2.)
a.)The principle of these fictional mass drivers is that an on-board microfusion reactor provides power to a series of magnets to propel a projectile by use of magnetic coils.
b.)For those who have studied physics, we know that a current through a wire will induce a magnetic field about the said wire. I fictionalize that the mass drivers that I describe these units to have are a series of solenoids. A strong current is passed simultaneously through the series of solenoids to generate a strong magnetic field in order to accelerate a projectile to speeds that will maximize the kinetic energy equation. (note that APFSDS rounds are built around the kinetic energy equation). _________________ "War.... war never changes....." QUICK_EDIT
yes, and in doing so the mass driver will create a recoil... Although a slight one, but serious for something that floats. _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
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IVI SPHAFV-5 Lancer Mk.II
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. I should've finished all aspects of the junk-resource aeons ago but somebody whip me... I've been attacked by laziness o_O. j/k
