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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:06 am    Post subject:  Vons next computer Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
EVGA 512-P3-N872-AR GeForce 9800 GTX
EVGA 512-P3-N872-AR GeForce 9800 GTX
EVGA 123-YW-E175-A1 LGA 775
PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W
OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066
XIGMATEK HDT-D1284
Logitech UltraX Silver/Black USB
Microsoft M20-00001
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2
Kingwin KF-91-BK
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630AS
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST380815AS
Windows XP Pro(Dual Booted)
Windows Vista H.P.(64Bit)(Dual Booted)

Yar.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

My PC looks like sh*t compared to that... But how much will that Rig set you back?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Highest costing parts only 199 bucks. XD

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hmm, looks like a good pc. I really should upgrade my PC with a 8800 GT, but then I need to have a better power supply too... >_< I think I will wait untill my old pc is back from repairs, to see how much money I still can spare #Tongue

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

$199 for the most expensive component? It's £190 for one of those graphics cards in the UK which is about $380. It's amazing how cheap stuff is over there for you lot.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:17 am    Post subject: Re: Vons next computer Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Von Kriplespac wrote:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
EVGA 512-P3-N872-AR GeForce 9800 GTX
EVGA 512-P3-N872-AR GeForce 9800 GTX
EVGA 123-YW-E175-A1 LGA 775
PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W
OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066
XIGMATEK HDT-D1284
Logitech UltraX Silver/Black USB
Microsoft M20-00001
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2
Kingwin KF-91-BK
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630AS
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST380815AS
Windows XP 64bit Pro(Dual Booted)
Windows Vista H.P.(64Bit)(Dual Booted)

Yar.

id go for XP32, if i were you, for compatibility´s sake. trust me, you wont miss the .5-1 GB of RAM.
also, whats wrong with Ultimate? you're BUYING it?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Von's going to play Crysis on it again, lol. Nice flying skills.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Geez, how come all our stuff is so expensive? We have to pay the same number, except every £1 is worth nearly $2!!!!! That's just a ripoff...

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

A stick of RAM 2 GB is $110 over here...

But 2 GB is nothing compared to you guys #Tongue


Von's comp kinda...is overkill. Mine playing YR even lags, let alone playing ShockWave. Ah Hypersonics.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

$110??? I know a place where (without P&P) you can get that for £30 ($60). And no VAT for orders under a certain amount. I love the Channel Islands Smile Shame about them having french place names, but I can deal with that easily.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Vons next computer Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ChielScape wrote:

id go for XP32, if i were you, for compatibility´s sake. trust me, you wont miss the .5-1 GB of RAM.
also, whats wrong with Ultimate? you're BUYING it?


I might go with Ultimate, but price-wise, home premium has everything I need technically, plus its just as stable, supposedly, as Ultimate anyway.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

My input on that computer:

1. I would go with some generic 2x 2Gb of 800MHz DDR2 CAS5 or CAS4 memory rather than 1066MHz memory and spend the rest of that money on a better 45nm Quad CPU. Most generic PC6400 can be overclocked also plus that the Nvidia chipsets can lock the memory to a specific speed while overclocking the CPU.

2. I would get a 45nm CPU like the Q9300 becaus they are more energy efficent and overclock better (less watts and less heat), jut be sure that the motherboard support that CPU first becaus Nvidia 650i/680i boards can be alittle troublesome with 45nm cpus and Quads Cores (and both in combination)

3. I would go with XP32 like ChielScape said and have it dualboot with that 64bit Vista

4. There are cheaper Nvidia 650i SLI & even a few 680i SLI boards for around 120$-199$ that are just as good as that EVGA 750i board (750i is just a rebranded 650i with some extra bridge for PCIe 2.0)
NOTE: that not all of the 650i/680i boards support 45nm Cpu's so be sure to check manufacturers homepage first.

5. Go with a cheaper pair(2x) of 8800GT-512Mb or 8800GTS-512Mb and then overclock it to around 9800GTX speed, They also dont need 2x power connectors per card so they should work with a cheaper powersupply.

6. Im not sure about that CPU cooler there. I would got with a Thermalright 120Ultra Extreme / Thermalright Ultima-90 / Sunbeam Tuniq Tower / Scyte Infinity(Mugen) / Scyte Ninja Rev.B or a Artic Cooling Freezer 7 PRO
Here is a test on that cooler and it sucks!: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/scythe-zipang-xigmatek-hdtd1284_12.html#sect1
(I have a Thermalright 120Ultra Extreme with some generic lowspeed crap 120mm fan)

By the way are you sure you really need 2 graphic cards? aint one enough for you?
If you go with one graphic card like one 9800GTX you could get a better motherboard with Intel P35/P45 chipset and a cheaper powersupply around 450 Watts.
(Its also more enviromental friendly Very Happy (less heat and less Watts)

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

djohe wrote:
My input on that computer:

1. I would go with some generic 2x 2Gb of 800MHz DDR2 CAS5 or CAS4 memory rather than 1066MHz memory and spend the rest of that money on a better 45nm Quad CPU. Most generic PC6400 can be overclocked also plus that the Nvidia chipsets can lock the memory to a specific speed while overclocking the CPU.

2. I would get a 45nm CPU like the Q9300 becaus they are more energy efficent and overclock better (less watts and less heat), jut be sure that the motherboard support that CPU first becaus Nvidia 650i/680i boards can be alittle troublesome with 45nm cpus and Quads Cores (and both in combination)

3. I would go with XP32 like ChielScape said and have it dualboot with that 64bit Vista

4. There are cheaper Nvidia 650i SLI & even a few 680i SLI boards for around 120$-199$ that are just as good as that EVGA 750i board (750i is just a rebranded 650i with some extra bridge for PCIe 2.0)
NOTE: that not all of the 650i/680i boards support 45nm Cpu's so be sure to check manufacturers homepage first.

5. Go with a cheaper pair(2x) of 8800GT-512Mb or 8800GTS-512Mb and then overclock it to around 9800GTX speed, They also dont need 2x power connectors per card so they should work with a cheaper powersupply.

6. Im not sure about that CPU cooler there. I would got with a Thermalright 120Ultra Extreme / Thermalright Ultima-90 / Sunbeam Tuniq Tower / Scyte Infinity(Mugen) / Scyte Ninja Rev.B or a Artic Cooling Freezer 7 PRO
Here is a test on that cooler and it sucks!: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/scythe-zipang-xigmatek-hdtd1284_12.html#sect1
(I have a Thermalright 120Ultra Extreme with some generic lowspeed crap 120mm fan)

By the way are you sure you really need 2 graphic cards? aint one enough for you?
If you go with one graphic card like one 9800GTX you could get a better motherboard with Intel P35/P45 chipset and a cheaper powersupply around 450 Watts.
(Its also more enviromental friendly Very Happy (less heat and less Watts)

1. no, he made a nice choice.
2. same. the Q6600 has a x9 multiplier, it has superior overclocking capabilities at a lower price.

4. no.
5. no. he should go for 9800GTX+ cards, based on the 55nm revision of the G92b, priced at ~230 each.
6. other testings have shown it beats the TRUE by a small margin.
having said that, GO SWIFTECH H2O 220 COMPACT NAO

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Vons next computer Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Von Kriplespac wrote:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
EVGA 512-P3-N872-AR GeForce 9800 GTX
EVGA 512-P3-N872-AR GeForce 9800 GTX
EVGA 123-YW-E175-A1 LGA 775
PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W
OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066
XIGMATEK HDT-D1284
Logitech UltraX Silver/Black USB
Microsoft M20-00001
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2
Kingwin KF-91-BK
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630AS
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST380815AS
Windows XP Pro(Dual Booted)
Windows Vista H.P.(64Bit)(Dual Booted)

Yar.


The quad core is nice but I doubt you'll see a whole lot of apps that will take full advantage for a while. By the time you do, more than likely a newer, better proc will be out....I mean that always seems to be the case. lol

The Dual cores are cheap and the 6600 is the best overclocker for the price. I'm running a 2.4 6600 Dual OCd to 3.4 with no noticeable temp increase.

Either way download the program "CoreTemp" to monitor all your actual core temps. It's designed for multiple proccessors.

I have the OCZ Platinum 4gig pack and love it altho mine is the 4 sticks of 1 gig each. Just remember they may need to run at the higher voltage of 2.1v or it might lock up with a ram error on boot. It will look like you have a bad stick when you don't. This fix was taken and worked for me from the OCZ support forum.

I personally would spend a little more on a mouse. It can make or break a game sometimes. I use the Logitech G9 Laser and love it.

I would make sure the cooler will fit in your case without it being too tight. I've gone through that before.

450W power would never be enough in todays gaming age. I would stick with your 750W pick at the very least, altho I recommend the CoolerMaster Real Power Pro.

Just my opinions, either way your rig looks like it will be nice.

Cheers,

Rebelmoon

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Vons next computer Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Rebelmoon wrote:
Von Kriplespac wrote:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
EVGA 512-P3-N872-AR GeForce 9800 GTX
EVGA 512-P3-N872-AR GeForce 9800 GTX
EVGA 123-YW-E175-A1 LGA 775
PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W
OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066
XIGMATEK HDT-D1284
Logitech UltraX Silver/Black USB
Microsoft M20-00001
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2
Kingwin KF-91-BK
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630AS
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST380815AS
Windows XP Pro(Dual Booted)
Windows Vista H.P.(64Bit)(Dual Booted)

Yar.


The quad core is nice but I doubt you'll see a whole lot of apps that will take full advantage for a while. By the time you do, more than likely a newer, better proc will be out....I mean that always seems to be the case. lol

The Dual cores are cheap and the 6600 is the best overclocker for the price. I'm running a 2.4 6600 Dual OCd to 3.4 with no noticeable temp increase.

Either way download the program "CoreTemp" to monitor all your actual core temps. It's designed for multiple proccessors.

I have the OCZ Platinum 4gig pack and love it altho mine is the 4 sticks of 1 gig each. Just remember they may need to run at the higher voltage of 2.1v or it might lock up with a ram error on boot. It will look like you have a bad stick when you don't. This fix was taken and worked for me from the OCZ support forum.

I personally would spend a little more on a mouse. It can make or break a game sometimes. I use the Logitech G9 Laser and love it.

I would make sure the cooler will fit in your case without it being too tight. I've gone through that before.

450W power would never be enough in todays gaming age. I would stick with your 750W pick at the very least, altho I recommend the CoolerMaster Real Power Pro.

Just my opinions, either way your rig looks like it will be nice.

Cheers,

Rebelmoon
no, i would stick with the PCP&C supply, its way better than any coolermaster. there is such a thing as quality over quantity (watts in this case) you know...

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Re: Vons next computer Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

[/quote]no, i would stick with the PCP&C supply, its way better than any coolermaster. there is such a thing as quality over quantity (watts in this case) you know...[/quote]

Everyone has their favorite. Having used both, but admittedly CoolerMaster more with less problems & less heat, I prefer it to the PCP&C. As far as quantity, 750W is 750w.

The PCP&C might not give you any heat problems like I had, just make sure your case has sufficiant cooling, especially if you're planning on overclocking your cpu, video, and/or ram.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Rebelmoon wrote:
The quad core is nice but I doubt you'll see a whole lot of apps that will take full advantage for a while. By the time you do, more than likely a newer, better proc will be out....I mean that always seems to be the case. lol


Sounds reasonable.

Rebelmoon wrote:
The Dual cores are cheap and the 6600 is the best overclocker for the price. I'm running a 2.4 6600 Dual OCd to 3.4 with no noticeable temp increase.


No, dual-cores overclock better if you're into that. Otherwise stick to a quad.

Rebelmoon wrote:
I personally would spend a little more on a mouse. It can make or break a game sometimes. I use the Logitech G9 Laser and love it.


Debatable. He doesn't need more than a basic mouse, but if he's into a gaming mouse, then a G9 would be best for claw-grippers, but for palm-grippers, the updated MX518 is the best.

Rebelmoon wrote:
I would make sure the cooler will fit in your case without it being too tight. I've gone through that before.


Most cases have enough clearance for most coolers, except the huge tower-like ones. It shouldn't be a problem.

Rebelmoon wrote:
450W power would never be enough in todays gaming age. I would stick with your 750W pick at the very least, altho I recommend the CoolerMaster Real Power Pro.


Corsair and PC Power & Cooling are far superior (SeaSonic makes PCP&C's units though, so they're acceptable).


djohe wrote:
1. I would go with some generic 2x 2Gb of 800MHz DDR2 CAS5 or CAS4 memory rather than 1066MHz memory and spend the rest of that money on a better 45nm Quad CPU. Most generic PC6400 can be overclocked also plus that the Nvidia chipsets can lock the memory to a specific speed while overclocking the CPU.


Seconded.

djohe wrote:
2. I would get a 45nm CPU like the Q9300 becaus they are more energy efficent and overclock better (less watts and less heat), jut be sure that the motherboard support that CPU first becaus Nvidia 650i/680i boards can be alittle troublesome with 45nm cpus and Quads Cores (and both in combination)


Seconded.

djohe wrote:
3. I would go with XP32 like ChielScape said and have it dualboot with that 64bit Vista


Agreed.

djohe wrote:
4. There are cheaper Nvidia 650i SLI & even a few 680i SLI boards for around 120$-199$ that are just as good as that EVGA 750i board (750i is just a rebranded 650i with some extra bridge for PCIe 2.0)
NOTE: that not all of the 650i/680i boards support 45nm Cpu's so be sure to check manufacturers homepage first.


What? No. 750i has guaranteed support of newer CPUs, and it overclocks better. 6-series nVidia chipsets don't support new quad-cores, only duals.

djohe wrote:
5. Go with a cheaper pair(2x) of 8800GT-512Mb or 8800GTS-512Mb and then overclock it to around 9800GTX speed, They also dont need 2x power connectors per card so they should work with a cheaper powersupply.


As Chiel said, no. A pair of 9800GTX+s would go much further than those now-antiquated cards.

djohe wrote:
6. Im not sure about that CPU cooler there. I would got with a Thermalright 120Ultra Extreme / Thermalright Ultima-90 / Sunbeam Tuniq Tower / Scyte Infinity(Mugen) / Scyte Ninja Rev.B or a Artic Cooling Freezer 7 PRO
Here is a test on that cooler and it sucks!: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/scythe-zipang-xigmatek-hdtd1284_12.html#sect1
(I have a Thermalright 120Ultra Extreme with some generic lowspeed crap 120mm fan)


As for all that, the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 with a Scythe Slipstream 110 CFM fan is the overall best choice. It's only a couple degrees behind the TRUE and it installs much easier (but you'd need a bolt-through kit if you want it to mount securely).

djohe wrote:
By the way are you sure you really need 2 graphic cards? aint one enough for you?
If you go with one graphic card like one 9800GTX you could get a better motherboard with Intel P35/P45 chipset and a cheaper powersupply around 450 Watts.
(Its also more enviromental friendly Very Happy (less heat and less Watts)


The newer nVidias scale better in SLI than you think. If you can afford it, why not? #Tongue

Less watts means nothing. A really efficient 750w unit will draw less power for the same internal parts than a less efficient 500w. With CPUs and GPUs drawing more power these days, it's much better to get a well-built and efficient 750w unit so you can keep upgrading without worrying about power.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Those are some large numbers!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sir Modsalot wrote:
Rebelmoon wrote:
The quad core is nice but I doubt you'll see a whole lot of apps that will take full advantage for a while. By the time you do, more than likely a newer, better proc will be out....I mean that always seems to be the case. lol


Sounds reasonable.

Rebelmoon wrote:
The Dual cores are cheap and the 6600 is the best overclocker for the price. I'm running a 2.4 6600 Dual OCd to 3.4 with no noticeable temp increase.


No, dual-cores overclock better if you're into that. Otherwise stick to a quad.

Rebelmoon wrote:
I personally would spend a little more on a mouse. It can make or break a game sometimes. I use the Logitech G9 Laser and love it.


Debatable. He doesn't need more than a basic mouse, but if he's into a gaming mouse, then a G9 would be best for claw-grippers, but for palm-grippers, the updated MX518 is the best.

Rebelmoon wrote:
I would make sure the cooler will fit in your case without it being too tight. I've gone through that before.


Most cases have enough clearance for most coolers, except the huge tower-like ones. It shouldn't be a problem.

Rebelmoon wrote:
450W power would never be enough in todays gaming age. I would stick with your 750W pick at the very least, altho I recommend the CoolerMaster Real Power Pro.


Corsair and PC Power & Cooling are far superior (SeaSonic makes PCP&C's units though, so they're acceptable).


djohe wrote:
1. I would go with some generic 2x 2Gb of 800MHz DDR2 CAS5 or CAS4 memory rather than 1066MHz memory and spend the rest of that money on a better 45nm Quad CPU. Most generic PC6400 can be overclocked also plus that the Nvidia chipsets can lock the memory to a specific speed while overclocking the CPU.


Seconded.

djohe wrote:
2. I would get a 45nm CPU like the Q9300 becaus they are more energy efficent and overclock better (less watts and less heat), jut be sure that the motherboard support that CPU first becaus Nvidia 650i/680i boards can be alittle troublesome with 45nm cpus and Quads Cores (and both in combination)


Seconded.

djohe wrote:
3. I would go with XP32 like ChielScape said and have it dualboot with that 64bit Vista


Agreed.

djohe wrote:
4. There are cheaper Nvidia 650i SLI & even a few 680i SLI boards for around 120$-199$ that are just as good as that EVGA 750i board (750i is just a rebranded 650i with some extra bridge for PCIe 2.0)
NOTE: that not all of the 650i/680i boards support 45nm Cpu's so be sure to check manufacturers homepage first.


What? No. 750i has guaranteed support of newer CPUs, and it overclocks better. 6-series nVidia chipsets don't support new quad-cores, only duals.

djohe wrote:
5. Go with a cheaper pair(2x) of 8800GT-512Mb or 8800GTS-512Mb and then overclock it to around 9800GTX speed, They also dont need 2x power connectors per card so they should work with a cheaper powersupply.


As Chiel said, no. A pair of 9800GTX+s would go much further than those now-antiquated cards.

djohe wrote:
6. Im not sure about that CPU cooler there. I would got with a Thermalright 120Ultra Extreme / Thermalright Ultima-90 / Sunbeam Tuniq Tower / Scyte Infinity(Mugen) / Scyte Ninja Rev.B or a Artic Cooling Freezer 7 PRO
Here is a test on that cooler and it sucks!: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/scythe-zipang-xigmatek-hdtd1284_12.html#sect1
(I have a Thermalright 120Ultra Extreme with some generic lowspeed crap 120mm fan)


As for all that, the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 with a Scythe Slipstream 110 CFM fan is the overall best choice. It's only a couple degrees behind the TRUE and it installs much easier (but you'd need a bolt-through kit if you want it to mount securely).

djohe wrote:
By the way are you sure you really need 2 graphic cards? aint one enough for you?
If you go with one graphic card like one 9800GTX you could get a better motherboard with Intel P35/P45 chipset and a cheaper powersupply around 450 Watts.
(Its also more enviromental friendly Very Happy (less heat and less Watts)


The newer nVidias scale better in SLI than you think. If you can afford it, why not? #Tongue

Less watts means nothing. A really efficient 750w unit will draw less power for the same internal parts than a less efficient 500w. With CPUs and GPUs drawing more power these days, it's much better to get a well-built and efficient 750w unit so you can keep upgrading without worrying about power.


how can you second a recommendation for a 7.5 Multi Q9300?
to reach any decent clockspeed, you will need FSB frequencies not a sinlge mobo can reach on a quadcore.
Q6600 is superior, not being limited by FSB, while being cheaper, allowing more money to be spent on the cooling it needs.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sir Modsalot wrote:

djohe wrote:
1. I would go with some generic 2x 2Gb of 800MHz DDR2 CAS5 or CAS4 memory rather than 1066MHz memory and spend the rest of that money on a better 45nm Quad CPU. Most generic PC6400 can be overclocked also plus that the Nvidia chipsets can lock the memory to a specific speed while overclocking the CPU.


Seconded.


Uh, that motherboard takes 1066, not 800... O.o

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ramp up the FSB and it'll take higher-clocked memory.

@chiel: Maybe he doesn't want to OC the CPU that much, hmm? #Tongue

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Von Kriplespac wrote:
Sir Modsalot wrote:

djohe wrote:
1. I would go with some generic 2x 2Gb of 800MHz DDR2 CAS5 or CAS4 memory rather than 1066MHz memory and spend the rest of that money on a better 45nm Quad CPU. Most generic PC6400 can be overclocked also plus that the Nvidia chipsets can lock the memory to a specific speed while overclocking the CPU.


Seconded.


Uh, that motherboard takes 1066, not 800... O.o

moron, it takes UP TO 1066... >_>

@sirmods, of course he wants to OC the shit out of it, or he would be a wannabe-AMDfag.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hey woah, nothing at all wrong with AMD. There for awhile they beat the shit out of Intel, and their quad cores are still pretty respectable.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

AMD doesn't perform as well (and they don't overclock as efficiently), and Intel's quads are getting cheaper. It takes the highest-end Phenom, the 9850 BE, which is 230-something dollars on Newegg, to even match the Q6600's performance, which is 210 dollars retail (200 OEM, which is what Vonny's getting)

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of course he wants to OC the shit out of it, or he would be a wannabe-AMDfag.


If he really wanted HUEG overclockin', then he'd spring for a dual-core. Quaddies don't seem to OC as well regardless of multiplier.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

on a decent cooler, a 1Ghz OC is easy.
quads are indeed worse overclockers, because they put out more heat, and dont get as high FSB speeds. the latter can be solved with a higher multi, hence the Q6600.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Quads as of now are wasted money, many companies don't even make use of the second core yet.
Heck, MANY don't even make use of 64bit yet. >.<

Better get a Duo with a high frequency if you ask me.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

pd wrote:
Quads as of now are wasted money, many companies don't even make use of the second core yet.
Heck, MANY don't even make use of 64bit yet. >.<

Better get a Duo with a high frequency if you ask me.

the use of quadcore is, for most home users, not to run a single multithreaded app, but several single-threaded ones.
Multitasking. Take this from me, quad cores are NOT wasted money.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

CPU Arrived today, SLACR she be...For those that don't know what that means, G0 stepping, and further more that don't understand and live under a rock, its not important for you.

Next to be bought? The Video cards. :3

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Von Kriplespac wrote:
CPU Arrived today, SLACR she be...For those that don't know what that means, G0 stepping, and further more that don't understand and live under a rock, its not important for you.

Next to be bought? The Video cards. :3
Yeah the B3's suck compared to the G0's but most Q6600 are G0 nowdays anyway.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

nevermind, i give up

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Clazzy wrote:
$199 for the most expensive component? It's £190 for one of those graphics cards in the UK which is about $380. It's amazing how cheap stuff is over there for you lot.


Yeah, It bites being British some times doesn't it? Razz

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ChielScape wrote:
nevermind, i give up


Whats wrong now Chiel?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

He hates that you can't go over 200 for GTX+es when they come out, that's what's wrong. #Tongue

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Have you thought about getting a Intel X38 motherboard and a pair of 199$ Radeon HD 4850 512Mb (any brand) cards now when they are out?

Ive read reviews on them and they are great and cheaper than the 9800GTX too.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ATI? Peh...I might.
I'll have to eye things over first.

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