Overlay and Terrain Questions

Regulus

I have a question, I am trying to make train junction overlays, but the game keeps crashing when I put them in the game. Is there something i am doing wrong?

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Team Black · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:19 pm Post subject:

DaTS tried to get them things working in XTX, but to no success.

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Rico · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:45 pm Post subject:

it could be that the game just cant handle them, probably something in the exe Confused

Regulus · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject:

Well, it could be the terrain type is screwed up. type 5 i believe is the track type. But the actual tracks are not tmp files, but shps, as the tmp editor will not open them and the track files are 144x144, which is exactly the same as 4x4, 1x1, and 2x1 etc shps. I find that a bit odd, does anyone else?

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IcySon55 · Commander **Joined**: 19 Nov 2003 **Location**: Overworld

It's not odd at all. The tracks are overlay. You CAN NOT ADD to the overlay list. It will not work. And to make sure you're actually setting the tmp to railroad, use TMP Builder: http://www.ppmsite.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16819 because XCC only shows you numbers.

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Blade · Cyborg Commando **Joined**: 23 Dec 2003

Such junctions are multi cell and as a result MUST be a tile with the correct terrain types set. This was done by DJBREIT years ago for the YR TX and worked perfectly. You do need to be careful when scripting train movement as the tile layout will be the same even for some layouts when the track graphics appear to be coming from different directions. This makes it possible fora train coming the wrong way to still move between tiles in a way that looks wrong but in game logic is fine.

CCHyper · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Apr 2005

Erm, Muldrake did this in TO, they worked fine. And if its giving a error, upload the except...

Titan · Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:07 pm Post subject:

Also, just for clarification...:

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You CAN NOT ADD to the overlay list. It will not work.

Yes you can... Wink

IcySon55 · Commander **Joined**: 19 Nov 2003 **Location**: Overworld

Titan Mk II wrote:

Yes you can... Wink

EXE hacks are not something anyone can do... Confused

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Titan · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:20 am Post subject:

So you are implying I make EXE hacks? Wink

So...

Titan Mk II wrote:

Yes you can... Wink

Btw, that's probably one of my first (ugly) shps, yes, I once had my own private mod too... Wink

GameMaster0000 · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:09 am Post subject:

BTW, I has way to can place building on overlays. I want building can building on veins.

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Regulus · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject:

Hmm, for some reason it still will not work. I don't know how to read except.txt so I will post it here and see if anyone else knows what happened.

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CCHyper · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Apr 2005

Error in "IsometricTileTypeClass_LoadTile"...

Have no clue why. Confused

Regulus · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject:

hmm. I made sure that it was set to railroad in the tmp builder, but I still don't understand why it crashes the game.

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CCHyper · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Apr 2005

If your making train tracks, you wanna make them SHPs renamed to .tem/.sno. Overlays are not pure Isometric tiles.

Regulus · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:15 pm Post subject:

I will try this next, but I don't see any reason why this would not work as a terrain piece. I will just have to put it in as an shp and go from there. Ho hum. I was just troubled as to why it crashes, as even when it is not set to be a railroad, it crashes Sad

I dunno, terrain is not my gig, FOR NOW!

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IcySon55 · Commander **Joined**: 19 Nov 2003 **Location**: Overworld

Regulus wrote:

I was just troubled as to why it crashes, as even when it is not set to be a railroad, it crashes

Open your tile in TMP Builder and deselect "Has Damaged Artwork". This is a very common problem that does crash the game.

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Regulus · Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject:

Hmm. Okay. i know what you are talking about and where to find it, but I cannot get to it. I know that sounds stupid but one time i opened the file and it was there, now its not :S. It is below the radar colors and ramp type correct? I remember it being there and now its not, is there a shortcut to turn it off?

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IcySon55 · Commander **Joined**: 19 Nov 2003 **Location**: Overworld

Yar.

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Regulus · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:43 am Post subject:

Yar har har.

Here's a picture of mine.

Anyway, I unchecked it and it still crashed and burned. Hmm Sad

I forgot to mention something else too. It only crashes when it is not attached to a train track set that is being used by a train, if that makes any sense to you. IE trains refuse to go across it.

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IcySon55 · Commander **Joined**: 19 Nov 2003 **Location**: Overworld

PM me the tile. Also, if that is all you can see with the program maximized...you need to up your resolution.

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Regulus · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:02 am Post subject:

Its up at the top of the topic. But I seem to have fixed it. I decided to redo the entire thing, and for some reason it worked. I don't know why that is, but I am not complaining. Thank you for your support IcySon55, and your wonderful program. I should have a huge junction set in the next release of TS:CAE now.

@Titan Mk II
Your post is very interesting.

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