MultiplayerAICM

Mike · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 4:52 pm Post subject: MultiplayerAICM

can someone either explain this tag to me: "MultiplayerAICM="
and how it actually works.
Or translate this in "normal" english to me:
"These are the coefficients applied to the amount of money the AI generates in multiplayer games. Listed by difficulty level, Brutal, Medium, Easy."

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John Galt · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 6:07 pm Post subject:

I think it works similarly to the Ore Purifier, adding this much % to the ca$h AI makes. But I could be wrong.

Mike · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 6:37 pm Post subject:

can somebody confirm he is right?

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Banshee · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 6:44 pm Post subject:

Multiplayer AI Coeficient Of Money... hmmm....

Mike · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 6:47 pm Post subject:

WTF IS COEFICIENT?

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Banshee · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 7:15 pm Post subject:

I really guess nobody is correct. The cash AI receives per unload in the refinery is calculated on the ammount of gold/gem it collected * value + MultiplayerAICM. That's why Brutal AI is usually rich as hell.

darkness · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 29 Jun 2003

value * MultiplayerAICM = money...

Not '+'

Mike · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 7:52 pm Post subject:

is the value integer or a percentage?

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Banshee · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 7:58 pm Post subject:

if it was a percentage, Easy and Medium AI wouldnt receive any sort of cash.

Mike · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 7:59 pm Post subject:

i am confused if it is value * multiplayeraicm when on easy and medium it world be like 1000 * 0 wich is 0 and if it is an integer 1000 * 400 = 400000?!?!?! for 1 load?!?!?!

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Banshee · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 8:18 pm Post subject:

1000 + 0 for easy and medium

1000 + 400 = 1400 for brutal.

Mike · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 8:20 pm Post subject:

aha so darkness is wrong

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John Galt · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 6:02 am Post subject:

Nobody wrote:

adding this many %

It's probably a percentage value, like other coefficients, such as threat rating-related ones.
I think it works like this:
Harvester brings in 40 'bails' of ore, which is worth 40*25=1000 credits. Then it is multiplied by (1+AICM/100) to get the final amount of cash. That way easy and medium get the same 1000, whereas brutal gets 1000*(1+400/100)=1000*5=5000.
Looks like one hell of an advantage, but it's more logical to have this as a coefficient instead of an integer, because if they need to override tiberium value (common action in missions), then brutal wouldn't have that much of an advantage...

Mike · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 8:17 am Post subject:

yes 1400 is no big difference then 1000

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Banshee · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 8:10 pm Post subject:

I understand your point, Nobody, but I think that it would be something like an exageration, because it's not that hard to bring brutal AI to economical problems when you start killing all their miners. And also, their gold doesnt grow so fast... I still believe that it is an integer and not a percentage... maybe ra2.tlb could clarify it to us...

Mike · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 8:24 pm Post subject:

well anyone who can read that language please examin

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Sk8erkid · INSANE **Joined**: 16 Aug 2002

what if you put a negative? -400, the will receive 1000 + -400 wich is 600, so they would have economic problems ON THERE OWN like us humans do #Tongue

The DvD · Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:12 am Post subject:

Maybe it's just like this: a value of 400 means the AI gets 4000 per load (400% of 1000). a Value of 200 means 2000 per load (200% of 1000). I mean WW sometimes uses the the wrong descriptions for their tags... for example the entries in the Threat Rating sections were all wrong. And maybe it was just the stupid EA Pacific team that thought up that AICM could mean AI Coeficent of Money. It could mean something different. Like AI Cost Minus for example. Although that doesn't fit with my explanation above..

darkness · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 29 Jun 2003

I think dvds got it right...400% would't be TOO much.

Banshee · Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 9:11 pm Post subject:

but when I used to play ra2, one pack of gold wasnt enough to make AI build that much...

Mike · Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 8:17 am Post subject:

well since my mod is for yr i can say banshee is right the ai didn't build 2 apocs and a flacktrack or shock trooper for 1 load

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The DvD · Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 8:23 am Post subject:

well now that i think of it my percentage theory was of course wrong as, as banshee said before, a value of zero would mean no money. maybe the value stands for the percentage that needs to BE ADDED to, NOT MULTIPLIED with the ore value.

John Galt · Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 4:51 pm Post subject:

The DvD wrote:

well now that i think of it my percentage theory was of course wrong as, as banshee said before, a value of zero would mean no money. maybe the value stands for the percentage that needs to BE ADDED to, NOT MULTIPLIED with the ore value.

Just what I said before... Wink