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My attempt at the now twisted thing called the Red Alert....
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:35 pm    Post subject:  My attempt at the now twisted thing called the Red Alert.... Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------(T2):Soviets kill Einstein
Einstein goes back in time to kill Hitler to stop WWII                                :Hitler is still alive?
Soviets rise to power                                                                  :Nuclear weaponry never invented
Nuclear weaponry introduced                                                            :Yuri was never captured by Allies
Allies defeat the Soviets                                                                :Japan attacks out of nowhere
Soviets attack the US
--------------------------------------------------(T1):Allies destroy Psychic Dominator
Allies storm the Kremlin and win the war.          :Soviets surrender
Yuri rises to power with a secret army               :Allies capture Yuri
Allies go back in time to stop Yuri (T1)              :Soviets create time machine(T2)
Prediction: Yuri activates psychic network
Prediction: Yuri controls the world

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Your point?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Suppose that the soviets killed Einstien after the first war, but before the second, then they still wage war like they would be waging the second one, and have the decisive advantage because the allies would no longer have einstine absed technology.

I think ra3 is like, the same war as ra2, with the fact that is was "reset" with the assasination of einstien.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

They still got "prims" and Chronosphere and mirage tanks so they use some Einstein technology

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

but chronosphere was in pre ra1. I'm saying it happened after ra1.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes, although EA was never clear on this, I believe, the Soviets went back in time to kill Einstien after the Great World War 2.

Then again, why not go all the way, and go back in time before RA1? I imagine a cinematic, instead of showing Einstien erasing Hitler (how the ztype did he do that? It was never explained; he should have just stabbed him instead), Einstien is about to do that, when two Soviet hitmen appear from behind a building, and kill both of them...... it could be done, unless the Time Machine isn't capable of traveling that far back in time.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah, that sounds good. I'm imagining the exact scene of Einstein erasing Hitler (which was comparatively low resolution by today's standards), with two very high resolution snipers shooting them both.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

DoMiNaNt_HuNtEr wrote:
(how the ztype did he do that? It was never explained; he should have just stabbed him instead)

He doesnt erase him IMO, he just delays him; effects time just by being there, which alters everything. The chrono effect is just his time limit he had in the past running out, and bringing him back.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Dominant_Hunter, in RA timetravel you can't touch things with your 'skin' or else the younger 'thing' gets lost in time...

So Hitler probably ended up in a 103 million year b.c. Germany.

As for AndZel, Einstein did not create those inventions, he perfected them. Therefore the allies still have imperfect prism stuff, Mirage stuff and Chonothings.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

TIME PARADOX!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

MUCH easier to read, and the whole story line is kind of screwed up imo.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Phobonaut wrote:


As for AndZel, Einstein did not create those inventions, he perfected them. Therefore the allies still have imperfect prism stuff, Mirage stuff and Chonothings.


So who made them?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

there are 6 billion people on the earth. Maybe one of them?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

There was only a fraction of that 50 years ago #Tongue

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Rise of Nod in RA3 is highly unlikely.

RA1 could work with TD, but from RA2 the RA serie got RETUARDEAD, in contrary to RA1 and TD's subtle jokes and TS's post-apocalyptic seriousness.
(I must admit some of the TS fmv's are very... "overdone" for comical effect.)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

CHANDRA, U SONOVABITCH

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Don't forget that horrible American-styled romance scenes between McNeill and the Umagon...

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

So nobody know who make the tecnology to Allied?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It's never said. Who built the TD obelisk for nod? The orca? nobody ever says. #Tongue

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Kane + 20.0 billion US dollars of course, u n00b!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

you mean 200000000 "credis" of ore/tib right?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

My humble opinion is that the whole "Soviets travel back in time to kill Einstein" is the most idiotic excuse of a plot I ever heard of.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

My opinion is the path was started in 2000 when RA2 was released and in 2007/8 EA were seeking to seperate their C&C's from the westwood ones went down that path with the style instead of reverting to the truer darker feel RA1 shared with TD, there was st00pid ZOMG Lightening launchers but they were comparable to the ion cannon and Obelisk on the weird scale.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Nikola Tesla was working on the Unified Field Theory too, and claimed to have "solved it", so maybe he did it? There were other people too on both the Unified Field Theory project and the Manhattan project. In fact, Albert isn't even on the official list of researchers in the Manhattan Project, he simply wrote letters to F.D. urging its research.

I really think that they got the Chronosphere idea from the Philadelphia Experiment Conspiracy, and alleged tests at Montauk, New York.

The simplified experiment goes that a Destroyer Escort Eldridge was equipped with strong electromagnets that would bend light around the ship rendering it invisible. in one of the tests, a green fog surrounded the ship and when the fog lifted it was gone. At the same time during the experiment off the cost of Philadelphia, a merchant ship claimed to have seen the same green smoke and saw the Eldridge was back in its port of origin. It then vanished in a similar fashion to reappear at the test site. There were wild claims that some of the people on board had "melded" with the ship, and were experiencing sever psychological effects.

Project Montauk was a continuation of experimenting with the teleport technology, but its sketchy at best.

All of this course, has never been proven true or false with significant evidence. Quite an interesting time period.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes it is.

Here's a theory-> RA1, is the beginning, duh. If the Soviets win that campaign, the Soviet Union rules Eurasia, for a while, but it eventually degrades and collapses, due to rebels (mostly Europeans), and eventually, Europe and Asia revert back to normal.

With Russia in despair, the Brits, French, and Germany, they all rebuild. The world is similare to what it was in 1995-2000, in the real world. The UN creates Black Ops 9, a counter terrorist force; the UN cracks down on any attempts of global conquest.

So, the early Brotherhood of Nod, and Kane himeself was part of the Soviet Union, back in the day; when the Union collapsed, the Brotherhood had alot of resources acquired accross the world. They acquired these resources during the reign of the Soviets.

Also, during that reign, tesla energy experiments continued and thanks to these experiments, the Scrin discovered Earth, and sent a meteorite with tiberium to Earth.

TD, the FIRST C&C game, takes place shortly after the above, with Nod at first appearing to about half the world as a peaceful organization, devoted to bettering the lives of others, and knows alot of tiberium, hell, they invented ways of harvesting it. Kane really knows how to persuade people.

The UN or perhaps Black Ops 9 (which BTW has increased in size of weapons and manpower alot), is suspicious though, as criminal/illegal activitey related to Nod personnel are discovered. Eventually, war breaks out after, alot of media battles previously; not everyone accepts Nod. Black Ops 9 is renamed the Global Defense Initiative, is revealed to the world by the UN, as a counter terrorist force. GDI & the UN, plus the other half of the world, claim Nod is evil. War breaks out. You know the story.

Thus, the Tiberium Wars commence, with TS & FS, then C&C3 and KW.

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Back to RA1 -> If the Allies win, Europe is saved, Stalin is killed, Kane seemingly disappears, along with his plans for Nod and Tiberium, if he had tiberium and/or in mind at that time. The Allies win the war thanks their military, strategy, and technology, as well as with Tanya Adams.

The Allies, mainly the Brits, assign a puppet leader in Russia; the former Allies control Russia. The Ukarine and other former Soviet supporters are also watched over. Eventually, the USA replaces Great Britian at the job of policing Russia. A new, young American commando, whos name is unkown, becomes known worldwide as Tanya Adams, because this women resembles her in many ways, she even started to utilize her famous dual wielding pistol techniques.

RA2 happens then. Then RA3 happens, with yet another Tanya like character, but with RA3 actually taking place in the 1970's to 80's (possibly to the 90's), which is the same time as RA2, this blond haired Tanya replaces the original American commando nicknamed "Tanya", sometimes even "Tanya Adams", for reasons due to timeline warps.

Basically, both the Tanyas in RA2 & RA3 aren't the same Tanya in RA1 - those two are just nicknamed after her, as they mimick her techniques.

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In conclusion, theres two main timelines. They all start in RA1; if the Soviets win, thus begins the Tiberium Wars, but if the Allies win, thus continues the Allies vs. Soviet war.

Thats the explanation in a nutshell
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thats why GDI is funded by the United Nations and not the Warsaw Powers or what not. And the Gulf War and Black Ops 9 happened in Tiberian Dawn canon.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Exactly. Well spoken.

"Who spoke well?"

"SomeGuy."

"What guy?"

"No, SomeGuy."

"NoSomeGuy?"

"No, So-.... Yes, SOMEGUY."

"... I'm confused, who the ztype are we talking about, some man, I guess?"

"I guess is not a person."

"I didn't say that."

"Yes y-"

"Well, I didn't mean it in that way. Seriously though, who are we talking about?"

"SomeGuy."

"THATs what I was saying, just some random guy."

"Not a random guy, SomeGuy."

".... ahh, I get it. You're afraid of the word random. Ha."

"I fear nothing, especially some word."

"Hey, those were some big words... I guess you're not that s-"

"For mars bars sakes, you got it wrong again. Unless you know someone named Someword or SomeBIGword... I wonder why they call him or her that."

"Well I know someone."

"Who?"

"I just said who."

"......................................"
"....................................."
".......................................................................................................................................................................... OHH, right."

"Dumbass; you lost at yer own game, bitch,"

"Oh yeah? I'll make you eat shit- MY shit, then make you chug some piss, MY piss; you eventually DIE!!!1"

A verbal fight ensues, and some guy chronicles it, in the form of THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZf64NfQATM

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