Rampant Component Towers

Shrumster · Vehicle Driver **Joined**: 26 Oct 2003

My GDI AI is rampantly building component towers (with heads) off from each other even though I've set BaseNormal=no for the component towers. Has anyone ever encountered this problem before? How do I fix it?

The DvD · Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:39 pm Post subject:

you have made a defensive building for GDI, that has IsBaseDefense=yes, and that doesn't use a component tower. the IsBaseDefense=yes tag will make the AI try to build it. Since GDI AI is hardcoded to ONLY use component towers as defense, they will place an empty component tower, and attempt to place your new defensive building on it, which isn't possible, they'll skip, build another empty component tower, try it again etc etc.

The key is setting IsBaseDefense=no, but now the GDI AI will not use this building. you can still use it, though.

Banshee · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 1:14 am Post subject:

Hmmm... The_DvD is correct. More info:

- Fixing Component Tower Bug tutorial: http://ppm.cncguild.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2165
- PPM FAQ: http://ppm.cncguild.net/index.php?go=ppmfaq

Mike · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:42 pm Post subject:

guys the ai IS building the upgrades some diffrent is going on here

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FireStorm · Stealth Laser Trooper **Joined**: 30 Dec 2002

ah? what are you trying to say Turalyon??? TheDvD have explained correctly..

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Mike · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:09 pm Post subject:

isnt thaty a solution when it DOES NOT upgrade it?

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John Galt · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:27 pm Post subject:

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My GDI AI is rampantly building component towers (with heads) off from each other even though I've set BaseNormal=no for the component towers

Turalyon's got a point. Or maybe Shrumster just mis-explained it.

hellfire · Commander **Joined**: 09 Jan 2003 **Location**: Canada

most times this problem occurs the AI will not put upgrades on them(Though I have had it happen before(And I didn't have a new base defense.)) But this still may be fixed the same way.

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The DvD · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: Rampant Component Towers

i just noticed there is a difference between this:

Shrumster wrote:

My GDI AI is rampantly building component towers (with heads) off from each other even though I've set BaseNormal=no for the component towers.

and this:

Shrumster wrote:

My GDI AI is rampantly building component towers (with heads off) from each other even though I've set BaseNormal=no for the component towers.

so does he mean component towers with heads (upgrades probably), or empty component towers ( i told him how to fix that) ?

if he means the first one, he has set to much AIBaseDefenseCoefficent for GDI

John Galt · Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 2:36 pm Post subject:

True...
Or maybe he just doesn't know how can AI do that trick (you know, the one where in RA1 you could build off flame towers and such, so ppl would build a line of 'em towards your base and ...)?

AI can build anywhere, you know Wink

It just builds around itself, leaving AIBaseSpacing between the buildings, probably ignoring Adjacent= as well as every other tag in the rules Smile

That's why it could build them off each other...

Shrumster · Vehicle Driver **Joined**: 26 Oct 2003

The AI is building component towers with the upgrades, but I didn't even give the GDI any new defense building with ISBaseDefense=yes..

My DefenseRatio=.35 (does this number exist in a vacuum, or does it take into consideration the other building ratios?), and I've limited the DefenseLimit=30.

Hmm...didn't know AI could build off any building (or anywhere for that matter). I guess I'll just have to live with the AI and his towers right now.

Does adding buildings to the [AI] BuildX (i.e. BuildConst, etc.) actually make the AI build those added buildings?

As an unrelated side question, would it be possible to make the AI build more than 1 war factory and/or barracks?

Mike · Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 6:52 pm Post subject:

the last question yes create a clone factory wich is only buildable to the ai

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The DvD · Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 12:09 pm Post subject:

I think your problem, shrumpster, is that you set the GDI AI base coefficient tag too high. Since you didn't say "component towers with heads off", the problem is not with corrupted component tower upgrades..