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Von Kriplespac
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:10 pm    Post subject:  Microsoft .NET 3.5 SP1
Subject description: lolFirefox addon of fail.
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Annoyances.org wrote:
The Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 update, pushed through the Windows Update service to all recent editions of Windows in February 2009, installs the Microsoft .NET Framework Assistant firefox extension without asking your permission.

This update adds to Firefox one of the most dangerous vulnerabilities present in all versions of Internet Explorer: the ability for websites to easily and quietly install software on your PC. Since this design flaw is one of the reasons you may've originally choosen to abandon IE in favor of a safer browser like Firefox, you may wish to remove this extension with all due haste.

Unfortunately, Microsoft in their infinite wisdom has taken steps to make the removal of this extension particularly difficult - open the Add-ons window in Firefox, and you'll notice the Uninstall button next to their extension is grayed out!


http://annoyances.org/exec/show/article08-600

In case you all haven't heard about it.

Discuss this faggotry.

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Lt Albrecht
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hah, nothing about opera so I'm safe #Tongue

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=cecc62dc-96a7-4657-af91-6383ba034eab

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In .NET Framework 3.5 SP1, the .NET Framework Assistant enables Firefox to use the ClickOnce technology that is included in the .NET Framework. The .NET Framework Assistant is added at the machine-level to enable its functionality for all users on the machine. As a result, the Uninstall button is shown as unavailable in the Firefox Add-ons list because standard users are not permitted to uninstall machine-level components. In this update for .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 and in Windows 7, the .NET Framework Assistant will be installed on a per-user basis. As a result, the Uninstall button will be functional in the Firefox Add-ons list. This update will also make this version of the .NET Framework Assistant for Firefox compatible with future versions of the Firefox browser. To properly update the .NET Framework Assistant, this update must be applied while the extension is enabled in Firefox. To remedy the result of installing this update while the extension was disabled, uninstall the update, re-enable the extension, and reinstall the update. Updates to the .NET Framework Assistant may include updates to the Windows Presentation Foundation Plug-in for Firefox causing it to be enabled upon its initial update.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Lt Albrecht wrote:
Hah, nothing about opera so I'm safe #Tongue


High five, sane person!

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Lt Albrecht
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Dconder say's you're a retard, Von. It's been around for months. #Tongue

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Firefox 3.5 Beta 4 for the win, since this plugin is not compatible with it #Tongue. At least, not here (windows xp 64bits). So, I have Firefox with disabled Framework Assistant.

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Von Kriplespac
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

XD!

Tell Dcoder I blame him for being late in showing it.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

#Tongue
Dcoder would most probably make a sarcastc comment (a new one, not one of his old favourites like "lemmings" or going and pissing in the amzaon).

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Von Kriplespac
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Probably.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

How the hell am I supposed to know? I'm not Dcder and the real one is banned and either asleep or working or eating or otherwise busy.

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Von Kriplespac
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

XD

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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How the hell am I supposed to know?

Slashdot. I heard about this on a Slashdot news months ago, so I second Albrecht #Tongue

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Firefox is better than Internet Explorer or all those other crappy internet browsers (even though it is supported by Mac computers). You Internet Explorer users can eat my dust!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hah,Chrome for the win #Tongue

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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all those other crappy internet browsers

If you're refering to decent browsers like opera your choice of software is as redundant as your view of marality #Tongue no offence, but seriously Anything>Fanboys

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

St0rm wrote:
You Internet Explorer users can eat my dust!

How about a reason why you dislike IE. I hear a lot of you stupid Firefox fanboys slagging other browsers with little, if any reason, at all. This kind of thing is extremely obnoxious, and is borderline obsessive to your point of view and quite frankly, it pisses me off.

To be quite honest, I doubt half of you anti-IE people really understand why Internet Explorer is so despised... Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

- Internet Explorer is the browser that causes more headaches to web designers, since Microsoft tried to create its own standards over W3C or did not follow W3C standards as they should have done. If you wanna a browser that follows W3C standards more closely, then Opera is the best browser, although Firefox is much better than IE, even if IE8 improved a lot compared to IE7 in this direction.

- While Firefox has vulnerabilities found and exploited once in a while, Internet Explorer has much more, specially because of ActiveX, Framework and other features that Microsoft produces to make things like Windows Update (which directly deals with your system files) to work. Also, IE7 or prior were part of the system, which gives more privileges to those who use these exploits. Opera, Chrome and Safari have less problems with security, since most crackers focus on both IE and Firefox.

- Firefox has über plugins. Much better compared to the ones from Internet Explorer and any other browser.

- Firefox does not leave many background programs running, like Google Chrome (and any other Google tool). Things such as GoogleUpdate.exe and others are disgusting, specially because I may play games once in a while and I won't use the browser everytime.


Anyway, I like Firefox and Opera. I don't know Safari very well, although I don't like the webkit that it uses (it screws up PPM #Tongue). Chrome is very fast, but lacks features and uses the damn webkit. But I do hate Internet Explorer.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Bah,I'm moving towards modding Chrome...

So,for me its ok.Incredibly fast,IMO.

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Dark Templar X
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Banshee wrote:
- Internet Explorer is the browser that causes more headaches to web designers, since Microsoft tried to create its own standards over W3C or did not follow W3C standards as they should have done. If you wanna a browser that follows W3C standards more closely, then Opera is the best browser, although Firefox is much better than IE, even if IE8 improved a lot compared to IE7 in this direction.

No, that's Internet Explorer 6 and below; 7 had far fewer specific bugs to track down and if your site breaks in IE, review your code since it's not hard to code for IE5+ on Windows platforms.

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- While Firefox has vulnerabilities found and exploited once in a while, Internet Explorer has much more, specially because of ActiveX, Framework and other features that Microsoft produces to make things like Windows Update (which directly deals with your system files) to work. Also, IE7 or prior were part of the system, which gives more privileges to those who use these exploits. Opera, Chrome and Safari have less problems with security, since most crackers focus on both IE and Firefox.

ActiveX has to actually be running to grab the exploit and by default, users have to allow it to run since IE grabs most of them before they execute.
The other problem with your theory is that Windows Update doesn't actually have full access to your system; it only scans for updates and doesn't do any other processes. No actual update is performed through the browser. And since no other browser supports ActiveX objects, none are able to run the Windows Update control.

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- Firefox has über plugins. Much better compared to the ones from Internet Explorer and any other browser.

Good reason to be pro-browser, not anti-another. Not everyone actually needs plugins and there are a handful of IE addons that are fantastic.

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- Firefox does not leave many background programs running, like Google Chrome (and any other Google tool). Things such as GoogleUpdate.exe and others are disgusting, specially because I may play games once in a while and I won't use the browser everytime.

Nor does IE and at most, GoogleUpdate takes 1MB worth of RAM, which isn't very much, even for someone running XP with just 256MB.

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Anyway, I like Firefox and Opera. I don't know Safari very well, although I don't like the webkit that it uses (it screws up PPM #Tongue). Chrome is very fast, but lacks features and uses the damn webkit. But I do hate Internet Explorer.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with WebKit. It's much easier to code for than Trident but it seems like something is horribly wrong with PPM's UI code if WEBKIT is failing and not Trident.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Dark Templar X wrote:
Banshee wrote:
- Internet Explorer is the browser that causes more headaches to web designers, since Microsoft tried to create its own standards over W3C or did not follow W3C standards as they should have done. If you wanna a browser that follows W3C standards more closely, then Opera is the best browser, although Firefox is much better than IE, even if IE8 improved a lot compared to IE7 in this direction.

No, that's Internet Explorer 6 and below; 7 had far fewer specific bugs to track down and if your site breaks in IE, review your code since it's not hard to code for IE5+ on Windows platforms.


IE8 still has issues with tableless site designs (mainly the display: CSS code lacks support for some of the options available in W3C standards). At least my YR Argentina tableless redesign does not work with it and works with everything else.


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- Firefox has über plugins. Much better compared to the ones from Internet Explorer and any other browser.

Good reason to be pro-browser, not anti-another. Not everyone actually needs plugins and there are a handful of IE addons that are fantastic.


Compared to the ones from Firefox, they are not good at all.

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- Firefox does not leave many background programs running, like Google Chrome (and any other Google tool). Things such as GoogleUpdate.exe and others are disgusting, specially because I may play games once in a while and I won't use the browser everytime.

Nor does IE and at most, GoogleUpdate takes 1MB worth of RAM, which isn't very much, even for someone running XP with just 256MB.


IE is embedded with the operational system in XP and Vista. This is why you don't see its background activities. But it does have. And I don't need a GoogleUpdate taking the attention of my cpu all the time to find out in 99.99999% of the cases that it does not have an update. At least Firefox only does it when it is running.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

IE7 also has a terrible interface. Also, I coded a website once that was completely HTML 4.01-transitional compliant and for some reason IE7 (no other browser, the other browsers I tested being Firefox, Opera, Konqueror and Epiphany) rendered a green line right across the screen.

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