Overclocking

inzane krazy · General **Joined**: 07 Nov 2006 **Location**: God

Yea, Im interested in over clocking my CPU to run Soup Comm better

first off, I have....

Mobo: Asus P4S800D-x
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 2.8ghz
Ram: 2 Gigs
GFX: ATI Radeon HD 3650 HIS
PSU: 350 Watts

So I want to overclock that 2.8ghz CPU to 3.0 or 3.2, could anyone tell me how to do it?

obtw, Im not sure about my cooling, Don't know how to check it #Tongue

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Mortecha · Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:51 am Post subject:

You should probably consider upgrading all of those listed components first.

Grab a modo with a LGA755 chipset and a duel core atleast, you may find that you done even need to overclock at all.

Upgrade your ram to 4 gigs minimum @ 800 MHz with 4,4,4,12 timings preferably.

Consider upgrading your video card to a HIS HD4850 512mb and your power supply to a Corsair VX 550W.

so

Chipset:- either an E7200 or E8400 or simillar
Mobo:- Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L
Ram:- A-DATA 4Gb 800MHz
Gfx card:- HIS HD 4850 512MB
PS:- VX 550W

All these parts where roughly $740US 6 months ago so they should be much cheaper now.

If you wantes to spend alittle extra I would also recommend a Q6600 CPU.

Happy hunting:P

Renegangsta · Cyborg Commando **Joined**: 02 Aug 2007 **Location**: meh

usually its done via the bios settings, some programs also allow you to over clock like speedfan if it supports your mobo

idk what bios you have so it varies

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inzane krazy · General **Joined**: 07 Nov 2006 **Location**: God

err, Mortecha, if you haven't noticed yet, Im on an AGP system >.<

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Mortecha · Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:46 am Post subject:

Er dude..........

Your graphics card is AGP, your system is not.. The mobo I listed uses PCI Express and the graphics card connects to the mobo via PCI Express. These will replace your current ones so it won't be a problem.

Time for an upgrade me thinks Rolling Eyes

Lt Albrecht · Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:54 am Post subject:

Expensive, maybe? Perhaps he can't afford all that shit?

I know I can't and my rig shares a few parts with his (256 meg radeon 9550). Lickily though I have an LGA775 board so I've bought a core2 duo (1.86) and 2gb or RAM (running at 553mhz, 1 stick is actually 600 but the other is 553).

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inzane krazy · General **Joined**: 07 Nov 2006 **Location**: God

Albrecht, I forgot to tell you, but I upgraded my GPU recently, its now an HIS Radeon HD 3650 #Tongue

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Lt Albrecht · Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:53 pm Post subject:

Grrr. I still has better RAM/CPU and Mobo #Tongue

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Sir Modsalot · Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:47 pm Post subject:

I don't see much of a point in overclocking such an old chip. It'd be like re-tuning the engine of a Miata and getting 20 more horsepower out of it.

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Lt Albrecht · Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:50 pm Post subject:

Quote:

20 more horsepower

Enough to coax a few extra MPH out of it?

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Sir Modsalot · Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:08 pm Post subject:

That's the point. You'll get maybe a little bit more power out of a Penium 4 with an overclock, but getting a new system will make so much more of a difference.

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Lt Albrecht · Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:22 pm Post subject:

...and so much more of a cost.

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Mortecha · Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:17 am Post subject:

Spot on Sir Modsalot Smile

Yeah it may be alittle pricey but all this stuff was $740US 6 months ago. You can find cheaper prices as well for hardware that performs simillarly. Its all about shopping around and seeing what is and is not available and for what price.

DaFool · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Nov 2006

have you tried turning off a lot of the background programs? Open up task manager and close everything that is not absolutly needed. No overclocking needed, and you still free up some stuff.

I remember on my old comp, I would shut down windows explorer and it would make YR run faster.

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inzane krazy · General **Joined**: 07 Nov 2006 **Location**: God

Errrr yea, i kill everything, soup comm eats so much CPU, about 75 CPU at it's peak >.<

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Team Black · Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:08 pm Post subject:

newegg it.
Got GFX card and a sexy Corsair power supply AND free Call of Duty 5, for about $200 USD total. Plays C&C3 and Call of Duty games res 1680 x 1050 at max GFX no lag

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inzane krazy · General **Joined**: 07 Nov 2006 **Location**: God

Im planning to get a new personal PC with that money Im getting from the government soon, any recs?

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Renegangsta · Cyborg Commando **Joined**: 02 Aug 2007 **Location**: meh

Processor 3.0GHz
Motherboard 8 GB
Another Mobo Choice16 GB
Case
Power Supply 500 Watts
And for RAM and HD, it depends how much you're willing to shell out for per GB

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inzane krazy · General **Joined**: 07 Nov 2006 **Location**: God

Could you tell me about the mobos? What's an 8GB mobo, lga 775, etc? Im not an expert on mobos :p

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Renegangsta · Cyborg Commando **Joined**: 02 Aug 2007 **Location**: meh

the "8GB" is how much RAM it can support, not how much it has but the max it supports.
lga 775 is the "plug" or socket on the mobo where the processor sits, it absolutely HAS to be the same it or it will not work.

also I forgot to add in a fan and heatsink which are absolute necessaries

and a stab in the dark for memory:
8GB (4 x 2GB) for $139.99
the 8gb is the total amount of RAM and the 4 is how many sticks of RAM and 2GB is the RAM size
2GB (2 x 1GB) for $69.99

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inzane krazy · General **Joined**: 07 Nov 2006 **Location**: God

Oh, i see, thanks, that explains alot Very Happy

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Renegangsta · Cyborg Commando **Joined**: 02 Aug 2007 **Location**: meh

glad to help
oh and pci express x16 2.0 video cards slots are backward compatible with pci express x16
DDR2 and DDR3 memory are not compatible (do not get DDR3 unless the mobo says elsewise)
power supplies usually have 24 or 20+4 pin, be careful which one you choose (the one I showed you has 24 with another 4)
hopefully someone else here know how to explain power rails 'cause I don't know jack about that except more is better vs wattage

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inzane krazy · General **Joined**: 07 Nov 2006 **Location**: God

You mean...about Molex and 4/6 pins?

and about DDR2/DDR3, if they aren't compatible, what should I do?

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Renegangsta · Cyborg Commando **Joined**: 02 Aug 2007 **Location**: meh

This is the cable to worry about this is 20+4 (some higher end mobos require 24+8 Confused

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PSU Connectors

DDR3 is only supported on Intel i7 boards but all that stuff is expensive and I doubt you want to splurge #Tongue

When looking for RAM, look at the speed.
in which case you want DDR2 1200 for this mobo. If you read the Specifications page you'll see in the memory section it says Memory Standard DDR2 1200
also dual channel means you use the first RAM slot and the third, then if you add more (or if its the same 4 RAM sticks) you install the sticks in slots two and four such as below

More Info on DDR2
another side note pci express x1 x4 x8 x16 are entirely different slots

PCI Express x16 2.0 is the best for video card performance so long as the card is x16 2.0 as well

SATA is way better than IDE/PATA for both Hard drive and optical (CD/DVD) drives although most people will argue that there isn't much of a performance difference

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Mortecha · Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:12 am Post subject:

DDR2 and DDR3 are not compatable, they have different pin configurations to prevent people from trying to jam a wrong ram stick in a wrong socket.

Solution:- buy compatible ram sticks that are supported by the mobo you want to use, they are relatively cheap.

inzane krazy · General **Joined**: 07 Nov 2006 **Location**: God

hmmm, so that means I cant plug DDR2 ram sticks into DDR3-only Mobos? right?

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Renegangsta · Cyborg Commando **Joined**: 02 Aug 2007 **Location**: meh

no and vice versa

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inzane krazy · General **Joined**: 07 Nov 2006 **Location**: God

so...DDR3 fits into DDR2?

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Renegangsta · Cyborg Commando **Joined**: 02 Aug 2007 **Location**: meh

Mortecha wrote:

DDR2 and DDR3 are not compatable, they have different pin configurations to prevent people from trying to jam a wrong ram stick in a wrong socket.

Solution:- buy compatible ram sticks that are supported by the mobo you want to use, they are relatively cheap.

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Mortecha · Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:28 am Post subject:

Inzane, just forget about DDR3 for now. Not only will it require you to buy a rather expensive mobo, but you will also need to buy the ram sticks themselves which are also very expensive.

e.g A DDR3 mobo like the GIGABYTE GA-EX58 - Extreme would cost you $427US and the ram say 12GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR 1866MHz DDR3 would cost you $2,757US.

Just get 4GB of DDR2 for around $70 - $100. That will be enough to play the latest games no probs, as long as you have a better graphics card that is.