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Prism Destroyer variant [RA2]
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Atari2600
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 3:36 am    Post subject:  Prism Destroyer variant [RA2]
Subject description: My first try... see last post for final version
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Allied RA2 Prism Destroyer variant
All the angles you would want:


Compared to a Prism Tank. I made the gun look as identical as possible, without getting cramped.

Oh, and since the back side was too empty w/o the helipad, I put some greebles (details) to fill it in. Greebles is generally a LEGO/model term.

Comments & criticism are welcome. Enjoy, its my first voxel that I deemed worthy of display to the community, so any suggestions to improve it would be greatly appreciated.



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Prism Destroyer VXL file

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Prism Destroyer HVA file

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crevio
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

it's nice to see you trying, but i would go back and take a little more time on your work. I'm not saying anything bad, so dont think that, just spend a little bit longer doing things, oh and dont forget to use the autonormals mode also. keep making Razz

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Tony
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You should make the turret placed on something higher than the front of the ship,the prism weapon would..(in theory) destroy the ship when firing forward.

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Atari2600
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

crevio wrote:
oh and dont forget to use the autonormals mode also.


Ok, I have heard ever so much about autonormals from everyone. The thing is, all they ever say is 'use them', so may I ask, what do they do?

I tried it, and it looks... well... funky in the HVA viewer/editor... but other than that its fine. Oh, and I raised the Prism gun by 2 pixels, even though it was clear in the original version... Wadaya think?



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Prism Destroyer VXL file V.2

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Prism Destroyer HVA file V.2

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Tony
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Autonormals control how the games "light" reflects off of a voxels surface.

I suggest that you use this setting until you learn to hand paint the normals:



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Atari2600
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hmm, it appears that Im using Voxel Section Editor version II not III.

I was using version I up until a few days ago, because I didn't know there WAS a new one. I just downloaded it, btw, and Ill try giving the original a once over in autonormals with that.

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Atari2600
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Alright, I used autonormals, as provided in the Voxel Editor III. The base model is the same as the first version, with the gun at the previous height (I found it looked better when it wasn't raised up too high).

But after I gave it the autonormals, it looked really funny... like "wtz happened?"


Look at it compared to what I started with, the regular allied destroyer, and its messed up! things are to bright (like the conning tower) colors shifted, stuff is choppy... and yes, I used the setting I was provided with...

Suggestions?



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Prism Destroyer VXL version III w/ autonormals.

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Prism Destroyer HVA version III w/ autonormals.

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ConMan
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

See, the thing with autonormals is that it does not work well with voxels that only have one "layer" of voxels. This problem can be solved by making your voxels more solid, if you know what I mean Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Fill ´r up, old boy!

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Atari2600
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ixonoclast wrote:
Fill ´r up, old boy!

Joo got eet, mang!

I filled it up (added a mess load more data to it, but WHO CARES?), then I used the autonormalizing settings I was provided with. It actually looks good now, so thank you very much for the advice. Now I think I understand how to use autonormals better.

So, here it is! Final version, hopefully. Boy this unit is fun to use! I used the weapons from the prism tank, and most of the settings from the destroyer, and its a pretty nice addition to the arsenal.

Honesty, do you guys need ANOTHER screenshot? This one is just the first one, but less shiny. Enjoy.



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Prism Destroyer VXL Version IV w/ autonormals [finalized]

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Prism Destroyer HVA Version IV w/ autonormals [finalized]

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Much better, and now I see that it doesn't have a turret.. just ignore my first reply to yer boat Laughing

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Atari2600
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Damned Machine wrote:
Much better, and now I see that it doesn't have a turret.. just ignore my first reply to yer boat Laughing


Yes, in this case, turret=no.

I think its cooler without the turret- less mess to worry about.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Atari2600 wrote:

Honesty, do you guys need ANOTHER screenshot? This one is just the first one, but less shiny. Enjoy.


Yes please, it will help alot and will make this thread more enjoyable Razz

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Atari2600
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ConMan wrote:
Atari2600 wrote:

Honesty, do you guys need ANOTHER screenshot?

Yes please, it will help alot and will make this thread more enjoyable Razz


Yes sir. Here, ya go. Im quite pleased with it at this point.

BTW, look closely in your HVA viewer- follow the cables running from the gun. I thought that was a nice detail.

Again, comments, suggestions, etc. are welcome. Remember, I'm kinda new to voxel editing/creation. I was a rules.ini/rulesmd.ini hamster for a few years, so this is roughly new territory for me. (Yes, hamster. I ran around it, while picking up little bits to store and then spit out later for use)

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Orac
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It does look good as a modification of an existing voxel, but really one needs to be creating new stuff before one can really comment on things like style or real ability.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Looks great mister.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The big middle hut or whatever it is is too white. Besides that, nice work.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blame that on RA2.

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