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hotrods20
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:03 pm    Post subject:  TibEd Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

DONE

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Dark Templar X
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The Command and Conquer community frowns upon this thread.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread


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Lt Albrecht
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Before I found this place I'd have agreed. THEN I remembered I had a brain. I pity the foo' who uses TibEd.

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hotrods20
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

why does everybody hate TibEd???
I dont understand why everybody treats it like a bad thing it is ini editing but organized for the user it has never done any harm to my game or my computer if anything its easier than all this open rules.ini then open art.ini then open an other .ini also i cant find my inis any more because of vista or red alert 2 is holding out on me and hiding them

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tony979
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I stopped using TiBeD 2 weeks ago, to me, its now a nooby prog... and its not really modding... because it makes it much easier... that takes the challenge out of it. which takes out the feeling of accomplishment

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

tony979 wrote:
its now a nooby prog... and its not really modding... because it makes it much easier... that takes the challenge out of it. which takes out the feeling of accomplishment

Quoted For Truth.

Also using programs such as TibEd limit you and don't give you room to grow and get better. There are a lot of advanced concepts you can't do in TibEd. RockPatch and the upcoming Ares have features too that are not code-able with TibEd.

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tony979
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Lol, Ty, XD. When is the rockpatch coming out??? ares was supposed to be released a while ago. ONTOPIC: Tibed just makes it to where you cant learn and do ADVANCED things like adding buildings, or races, or triggers, etc etc. so tibed cant teach you, you can teach yourself.

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OmegaBolt
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

No Ares is still in development, RockPatch and NPatch are already released.

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MRMIdAS
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

tony979 wrote:
Lol, Ty, XD. When is the rockpatch coming out??? ares was supposed to be released a while ago.


stop talking anus.

there was never a release date for ares, it's done when it's done.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

MRMIdAS wrote:
stop talking anus.


Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

er.... lol?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well, I have a very vivid imagination...

...talking anuses look really weird, I'll tell you that.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

okay, that just made me laugh, Very Happy.

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m7
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Dark Templar X wrote:
The Command and Conquer community frowns upon this thread.


This.

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Anzarta
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

From what I hear about TibEd, I have great reason to use it. After all, I haven't even started yet.

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Orac
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I modded using the rules.ini, then briefly switched to TibEd, then uninstalled TibEd and took up voxelling #Tongue

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Atari2600
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Reminds me of RedEdit98... another one of those programs that does all the hard work for you. My friend used it, while I did it by hand with the .ini files, and accomplished the same goal with more satisfaction.

Avoid the anus-y TibEd.

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Dark Templar X
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

HAY GUIZ! IT'S DONE!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah, same for hotrods himself, he's also DONE. He tried to EDIT HIMSELF TO RESOLVE PROBLEMS WITH M7 (actually, the whole (?) community), but now he has left. May he gain a braincell or 2 sometime...

However, people here say TibEd does 'the hard work' for you. But isn't it a program with at one side things like Damag=, Rate Of Fire=, Speed=, etcetera, and on the other side the values? Well that's exactly the same as SUN.ini, rules.ini, rulesmd.ini, etcetera...

I really don't understand why people would use such a program, those .ini's are in plain English, even with notes on what most of the things do! And then we also have ModEnc and such...

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Confessor
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Why do so many people CARE if other people use TibEd?
Use whatever works best for you.

I personally don't mind .ini editing, I've been doing it by hand since RA1, but I mess around in TibEd for fun when I want to.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

TibEd is like trying to paint your car by throwing paint cans at it.

Sure, your car will be nice red, but so will the windows be, and you'll have some nice dents where the cans hitted the car.

Better is to tape everything off, and use professional tools.

Sure, it'll take some training and some time, but the result will be much better.

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Confessor
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well not really.

That's a really bad comparison, actually.

I mean, you can't tell something is made in TibEd from first glance, or even playing it in some cases, in the same way that you can tell if a car has red windows.

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Ixonoclast
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well, a TibEd mod generally feels... well.

Old, out-dated, boring, thirteen-in-a-dozen. Been there, done that.

The only use for that program is when you're making a small balance mod.

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MT
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Confessor wrote:
I mean, you can't tell something is made in TibEd from first glance, or even playing it in some cases, in the same way that you can tell if a car has red windows.

It's called rolling down the windows.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sure?

Still don't see why people aren't allowed to use what they want.
Nobody's making YOU use TibEd.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

We just wonder why people prefer TibEd over normal .ini's. Care to explain why? I would like to know. Seeing as both are made in plain English, don't say it's easier to understand. #Tongue

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ixonoclast wrote:
TibEd is like trying to paint your car by throwing paint cans at it.

Sure, your car will be nice red, but so will the windows be, and you'll have some nice dents where the cans hitted the car.

Better is to tape everything off, and use professional tools.

Sure, it'll take some training and some time, but the result will be much better.

That is the best way someone explained why you must not use TibEd Laughing

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Tony
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread


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Confessor
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

need my speed wrote:
We just wonder why people prefer TibEd over normal .ini's. Care to explain why? I would like to know. Seeing as both are made in plain English, don't say it's easier to understand. #Tongue

I don't think it's easier to understand; it's not.

The point I'm trying to make is that if people want to use it, let them, who cares? It has no direct effect on anyone else so why does anyone who uses it suddenly become an outcast?

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Dark Templar X
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Because it's insanely difficult to assist people who use TibEd. Half of the time they don't understand what they're doing or don't understand the solutions presented towards them.

That, and you can't edit the AI with it or use the RockPatch/NPatch or Ares with it.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

So let them go without help.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

They still make threads, and get angry when we can't help, and that kind of things...Really, it may be harsh, but I think TibEd should be banned here.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

need my speed wrote:
...Really, it may be harsh, but I think TibEd should be banned here.


Fukken QFT. End of thread.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Lol.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

There should be a pinned topic about TibEd and why you will get zero help

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Orac
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

And TibEd uses would... *stunned silence* ...read it?


But OK, it might help, at least one could link to that page rather than constantly do the same spiel about TibEd being useless...

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Exactly.

Make a thread that says,

"
If you wish to use TibEd you may, but it is not the preferred method of modding and you will likely not recieve help.

To find out better ways, click:
Here
Here (<- Links to how to use .ini files in modding)
Here

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Baddy351
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:32 pm    Post subject: Maybe Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I use a mix of the custom edit and the tibed edit in all my mods, so i can't say which i like more. And for those of you saying tibed is bad, that is only if you are trying to create a big mod. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

TibEd is bad even for small mods. There is nothing good about it and what it does.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:39 pm    Post subject: Whatever Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

There is nothing wrong with it if you are a beginner making a balance or overpower mod Cool

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

There is. You learn nothing from TibEd, which is the entire problem. If you can't handle using an INI file, which is the simplest form of editing available, you shouldn't be modding. It's that simple. Point and click modding is not real modding. It's a farce.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:50 pm    Post subject: i agree Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

that is why i use both. i started out using ini editing and there is more reason to mod. tibed gets boring and irritates me now. Reson being that i can edit it as easily without manully editing.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Regarding tibed/sunedit2k, I believe those are actually the most common way to edit TS.
Granted, it's mainly used to add 10000 HP mammoth tanks to flat XWIS maps, though people outside our community really don't know any better.

We need to show them the light, comerades

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I could go to the TibEd (barfing from the word/name) forum and teach them what ive learned from trying ini editing.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Good idea, the XWIS forum is strike-team.net.

I tried to crusade for ini modding, awesome mapping, and ppm promoting, but it kind of got swallowed up

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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PUPPY'S


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sorry for double posting.


Anyways the propaganda has been set just wait

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