Graphic's problems

crevio · Commander **Joined**: 19 Apr 2009

I started making some new water for my mod, but the editor is not keeping the original image. Do I need to make a palette for it? and if so how do you do that? here are some pics of how it should look and how it ends up. Also while im here how do I change the lighting to make it a little darker for higher elevations?

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OmegaBolt · Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:54 am Post subject:

Well for one thing your tiles aren't the right angle for the game.

crevio · Commander **Joined**: 19 Apr 2009

alright, check this. my map is temperate, so by default the terrain uses isotemp.pal right? but there isnt quite enough blues in isotemp.pal so i made my own 120 shades of blue palette and called it water.pal It makes my water look awsome, But.... it wont use it for some reason and i saved it with the water.pal and have the palette in the same expand.mix file with the water tiles. this is happening alot, almost everytime i make something new, the colors are all screwed up ingame. what the hell am i doing freeking wrong?

Mig Eater · Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:27 am Post subject:

You can't just "make" a new pal, you can only override the original isotemp.pal with an edited version. Sorry but the game is very limiting when it comes to colours you just have to work with what you've got.

As for making higher elevations darker, use negative light posts in FA2.

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0warfighter0 · Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:48 am Post subject:

I use this to see if the tiles are of a good size.

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crevio · Commander **Joined**: 19 Apr 2009

ok but if i go and override colors in temperate.pal and something else uses a color that i changed, wont that look fricked up then?

0warfighter0 · Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:35 am Post subject:

Yes, so you'll need to adjust them so they don't use those colors.

Mig Eater · Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:09 pm Post subject:

Basically if you want to change one thing you have to change everything...

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crevio · Commander **Joined**: 19 Apr 2009

ok, thanks guys, maybe i'll just override the purples and pinks. i'm almost certain im not using any of those colors.

crevio · Commander **Joined**: 19 Apr 2009

So, am I absolutly stuck with using isotemp.pal for my water? Cause if so then my quest for realistic water is dead.... Sad

can't I use another palette that is in the RA2.mix?

Lt Albrecht · Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:20 pm Post subject:

no. BTW that water looks horrible. Wink

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crevio · Commander **Joined**: 19 Apr 2009

What? thats the best looking water ever Wink

but anyway, how can i convert the isotemp.pal into psp pal so i always know what colors i have when im editing the terrain in PSP?

man this sucks not being able to create your own palette for terrain Mad

Roadwarrior · Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:51 am Post subject:

http://www.ppmsite.com/downloads/OS_Palette_Editor_1.21.exe

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crevio · Commander **Joined**: 19 Apr 2009

ok what the hells up with this? I'm just ready to say screw it with this mod crap. Mad

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MT · Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:36 am Post subject:

Well, I have observed this before. It rounds the number you put in to a multiple of 4 (for better compression I'd assume).

It is nothing to worry about however, a change of 3 max for any colour is barely noticeable.

crevio · Commander **Joined**: 19 Apr 2009

Believe it or not, it did have a huge impact on my water. just by it changing just a couple numbers + or - really changed the outcome alot. But I compensated and added a few more numbers to the colors so it would round itself off at what I wanted. so instead of like #173 I put #176 which in turn it forced itself back to #173, and the results are good Razz

I dont understand the logic behind palette editor doing this, but it needs to be fixed IMO.

Roadwarrior · Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:10 am Post subject:

You have to change the colors then hit the Edit Color button then save Razz

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crevio · Commander **Joined**: 19 Apr 2009

I did do that, it automatically switches the numbers. like MT said- It rounds the number you put in to a multiple of 4 (for better compression I'd assume).

Roadwarrior · Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:19 pm Post subject:

Huh, It doesn't do that for me, or it does but it doesn't change the color much so I don't notice it.

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crevio · Commander **Joined**: 19 Apr 2009

it's probably not noticable on most of the other stuff, but isotem.pal has such few blues, and my water is stubborn, it was very noticable. on a couple of the new blues i put in it would change the color number sometimes by 4, so if i put in 175 it would end up 171 -> 4 shades lighter, so...