Combining Conyard and factory?

amitakartok · Vehicle Driver **Joined**: 03 Jul 2009

I am making a Battlezone mod and as such, I am trying to convert as many units, buildings, etc. as possible. I still need some assistance in realizing some coding.

First, will tampering with the ore drills to be capturable cause an IE?
Second, does ConstructionYard and WeaponsFactory conflict with each other? In other words, is it possible to set Factory to both UnitType and BuildingType?
Third, is it possible to replace ore graphics without messing up the game?

Keep in mind that I'll have to disable over half of the unmodded content to keep the mod as close to the original as possible.

crevio · Commander **Joined**: 19 Apr 2009

1- What are you talking about, the TibTre? those are not buildings, thus you cannot capture them.

2- NO! you can only have 1 Factory=type

3- Yes, you can change ore types without any problems.

hotrods20 · Commander **Joined**: 27 Jul 2009

Well what I think he mean's is can you have a war factory and a conyard all in the same structure.

wardeathfun · Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:59 am Post subject:

Ore drills (or TibTre) are terrain and Terrain cannot be repaired or captured or anything of the such that are buidlings only tags ._.

crevio · Commander **Joined**: 19 Apr 2009

I know what he meant, read my answer for #2 one more time Wink

Shakar · Cyborg Cannon **Joined**: 04 Jan 2008 **Location**: Places

For the ore thing... I would say using the Oil Derrek logic... To be able to make or capture a building that acts just like the oil Derrek.

hotrods20 · Commander **Joined**: 27 Jul 2009

http://www.ppmsite.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23258 this is were i learned how to make a building to make ore.

amitakartok · Vehicle Driver **Joined**: 03 Jul 2009

Dang it. I wanted to make the conyard able to build structures and noncombat vehicles while at the same time also function as a Grinder. Combat units would've been handled by a unit that deploys into a factory with both production structures also functioning as a refinery. Can't have everything, I suppose... or maybe I should wait until Ares comes out?

Then what about combining the ConYard and the Refinery?

Shakar · Cyborg Cannon **Joined**: 04 Jan 2008 **Location**: Places

Well, the conyard CAN be a grinder... Just use the grinder codes that related to making it grind. So that would make it both the building constructor and the unit recycling bin.

amitakartok · Vehicle Driver **Joined**: 03 Jul 2009

But combining a Grinder with a Refinery would be a bad idea, since Miners would get grinded every time they unload.

I guess I'll have to postpone the mod until a workaround can be found. Meanwhile, I'm going to work on my other mod-in-progress: I have a walker that leaves the factory in the wrong direction (instead of the exit, it goes out through the lower left walls), how can I fix that?

Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

amitakartok wrote:

But combining a Grinder with a Refinery would be a bad idea, since Miners would get grinded every time they unload.

Not necessarily. The special dock logic could avoid that. If not, you could try the special 3x3Refinery foundation, that has an extra free cell where the harvester docks. So your harvester doesn't touch the building when docking and shouldn't be grinded.

Does your warfactory use a special/smaller foundation? A foundation smaller than 3x3 could make the units leave in a different direction than SE.

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need my speed · Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:23 pm Post subject:

No, they wouldn't. At least, I don't think so. It's interesting though, try it out!

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amitakartok · Vehicle Driver **Joined**: 03 Jul 2009

Lin Kuei Ominae wrote:

Does your warfactory use a special/smaller foundation? A foundation smaller than 3x3 could make the units leave in a different direction than SE.

Nope, I use the default Allied WF.

Vehicles that self-teleport only when they have to cross a certain distance? I know it is possible somehow using the TS Jumpjet Infantry logic (if that's not hardcoded).

I know that UnitType deploys into BuildingType, but is it possible to make UnitType deploy into UnitType (to retain their mobility but gain new abilities)?

Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

amitakartok wrote:

[..] is it possible to make UnitType deploy into UnitType[..]?

no, not without a building as an intermediate state.
like
Unit A deploys into dummy Building B
Building B undeploys into unit C
Unit C deploys into dummy Building D
Building D undeploys into unit A

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amitakartok · Vehicle Driver **Joined**: 03 Jul 2009

And BuildingType invalidates Locomotor since they are hardcoded to remain stationary, I got it. I was thinking about making the Grizzly able to cloak by sacrificing it's firepower.

MT · Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 4:12 pm Post subject:

Lin Kuei Ominae wrote:

you could try the special 3x3Refinery foundation, that has an extra free cell where the harvester docks. So your harvester doesn't touch the building when docking and shouldn't be grinded.

3x3Refinery does not work as a refinery...

http://modenc.renegadeprojects.com/Foundation

amitakartok · Vehicle Driver **Joined**: 03 Jul 2009

I was suddenly hit by an idea: units that are set to IsTrain=yes will destroy the factory upon exit; however, Ares' custom foundations might have a solution for that: making an U-shaped foundation with the exit point being in the location where the units spawn. This could be used to create units that crush ANYTHING; though it would require additional hacking to be player-controllable.