War Factory

Aro · Alcohol Fueled **Joined**: 10 Sep 2006

The foundations TS allows are: 0x0 6x4 3x4 4x4 5x3 2x5 2x6 1x5 1x4 4x3 3x1 1x3 3x3(Refinery) 4x2 3x5 3x3 3x2 2x3 2x2 1x2 2x1 1x1.

jerry32j · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:31 am Post subject:

0x0???

Nice. An etheral structure. xD

Well I guess that helps. Now my large structures can be shaped to something bigger than 4x3, now that I see that there is a 3x5.

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Orac · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:11 am Post subject:

0x0 means that there is no foundation, ie. units can pass through it whenever they want without navigating around the foundation.

Destiny · President **Joined**: 02 May 2006 **Location**: Singapore

i.e. invisible light posts?

jerry32j · Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:44 am Post subject:

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Vefbl4 · General **Joined**: 07 Feb 2007

Mig Eater · Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:02 am Post subject:

It doesn't look like there is enough internal space for the unit to fit into it :/

Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

Mig Eater · Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:12 am Post subject:

They still have to fit inside of it once they're raised to the surface. Unless the whole front of the building opens like one big door while the elevator is bring the unit up I don't see how they would physically fit.

MT · Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:02 pm Post subject:

Yeah, I think the middle part and the door need to be larger. It doesn't quite look like it's undergound-based.

Orac · Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:06 pm Post subject:

Nod units are, without exception, low to the ground and sneaky.

Lord Unforgiven · Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:57 pm Post subject:

I like the design, very much even. If all the units you're making will come out of it realistically, then it's good. If not, you can always let the front ground panel lower a bit during opening, so that is gives the impression of the unit coming from underground and riding a bit uphill.

Oh, and, don't change the hexagons on the side. I love them. They're really the finishing touch.

Vefbl4 · General **Joined**: 07 Feb 2007

Yeah, right. I wount. Wink

specter · Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:56 pm Post subject:

Ingame screen ?

Orac · Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject:

Indeed. One might come along in a few minutes...

specter · Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:17 pm Post subject:

Waiting impatiently : )

Orac · Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject:

Dudeinabox · Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:16 pm Post subject:

Very nice but...seriously WHAT THE ztype is up with the size?

Regulus · Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:03 am Post subject:

OH HEY! I died. Excellent.

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Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

The textures and details look great and fit very well to the other TO Nod buildings.

But as said before it looks a bit "flat". Like someone used a 50% scale modifier on the z-axis. (even the details on the back support this as the exhaust are in a quite low angle too, compared to the concept)
The lighting could be also improved a bit to enhance more the shape by adding better/stronger shadows and reflections.
I also miss the hexagons of the previous version. Though the space on the side around the vent opening should be enough to still add them, which in addition looks a bit empty right now.

specter · Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:05 am Post subject: Re: War Factory

Godofgamers · Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:13 am Post subject:

I also feel that it is a bit flat.

Orac · Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:45 am Post subject:

Over all the Nod units are quite flat so this isn't a huge problem for them, on the other hand CABAL's Guardian may have a bit of trouble (as is the GDI Ares has some issues with the GDI WF roof, and the GDI WF is quite tall anyway).

Vefbl4 · General **Joined**: 07 Feb 2007

I am getting p..

Aro · Alcohol Fueled **Joined**: 10 Sep 2006

It is ridiculously squished, the devils tongue will have problems getting out that door.
It's a beautiful model non-the-less.

!DarkRose · Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:05 pm Post subject:

Yeah its very flat, need to be taller, much taller.

Mig Eater · Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:21 pm Post subject:

While we are at it... is it just me or are those buildings really washed out, they could do with more contrast to bring out the details.

Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

It's not just you. Besides, they seem to lack any shadow what-so-ever. Other than that, and the forementioned flatness, it's great.

OmegaBolt · Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:20 pm Post subject:

I'd like to see a Nod faction in a mod that follows TD designs instead of the sleak black style. I always liked those old TDesque Power Plants...

blubb · General **Joined**: 31 Jul 2005

the flatness is good, i always hated the cubic design of the normal warfactory, this one is perfect styled imo.

and too much contrast isn't good, i don't want them to look like the TI models wich look like plastic.

MT · Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:26 pm Post subject:

It is flat, yes.

Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

....power plants? TD power plants? Allow me to burst to laugh.

I would understand the HoN, but pps......

And thank you for the great compliments, Blubb.

Aro · Alcohol Fueled **Joined**: 10 Sep 2006

blubb · General **Joined**: 31 Jul 2005

Lord Unforgiven · Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:51 pm Post subject:

But... The hexagons are gone on this one! Crying or Very sad

Audiopulse · Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:10 pm Post subject:

I agree with those saying that it looks washed out. The model is of high quality - no question - but Ive been suggesting over and over again to add red light seemingly coming out from inside the building at some places, making it look like it had an intense red glowing core. Some spotlights beneath that "outer shell" right next to the blast door for example could light that exit-area and make it possible to keep the black shadowy style and yet show some details.

If theres one thing Id really like to ask for - please, folks - someone actually use and implement that suggestion. Ive been reminding of that Detail over and over again and everytime I brought it forth people agreed, but noone even cared to actually do it. It is quite tiresome to be honest.

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blubb · General **Joined**: 31 Jul 2005

what core? it has no core, it has 2 exhaust pipes and a filter system for the underground-vehicle contruction facility

Orac · Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:20 pm Post subject:

Audiopulse · Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:29 pm Post subject:

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Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

damn, that mockup looks great.

Though unfortunately do alphalights have bugs when being stealthed and i don't see another way to make it glow in the dark with a soft color transition.

blubb · General **Joined**: 31 Jul 2005

why not make it an optical illusion?
scrap the alpha lights, convert the "glowy" warfac that you polioshed in PS into the shp builder directly so that it takes colours from the grey palette. its looking like a light then, but in reality the highlight spots are just colours from the palette light grey.

Titan · Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:18 pm Post subject:

You can't have alphalights affecting the building, but many buildings like the conyard use active animations for that, no need for alphalights that ruin stealth...

Audiopulse · Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:33 pm Post subject:

Even better - make the damaged warfac flicker.

Is the active Anim also affected by palettelimitations?

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Orac · Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:57 am Post subject:

Wow. Audio, that white mockup looks better than the one with the red - it plays off the high-tech look rather than the menace. Smile

How much work would be required to make this work, do you think?

Alex06 · Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:18 am Post subject:

Woah, nice model, and nice mockup!

m7 · Commander **Joined**: 17 Apr 2009

Why does everything look fuzzy and out of focus? Why is that WF so flat? You know voxels aren't going to exit without poking through. And it appears to be out of the TS isometric perspective, too angled.

Audiopulse · Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:28 pm Post subject:

I disagree. Also, the flat shape has been explained several times before. Read the previous posts, please.

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Vefbl4 · General **Joined**: 07 Feb 2007

LEAVE MY WAR FACTORY ALONE!

Is is on the right angle ,it is not fuzzy. You even dont know what you are talking about.

You just talk, S(*&.

Go and make something better. Confused

And then after comeback with your demands.

Audiopulse · Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:29 pm Post subject:

huh?! woah. Vefbl haz bad mood

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Orac · Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:16 am Post subject: