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Scrin Ship in C&C95
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nekro
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:23 am    Post subject:  Scrin Ship in C&C95 Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You guys remember that white and red thingy from the third GDI mission with the SAM sites and air strikes? well, from my mysterious sources (a google search leading to CNCZ forums leading to some other website i'm too lazy to remember) it turns out its a crashed scrin ship and that the storyline continued out by EA was planned by westwood all along. i remember seeing nyerguds name over in CNCZ on this topic, so he might shed some light on teh topic.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It's a crashed Nod helicopter. It's been proven so, long time ago.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

On the other hand, Renegade got a flying saucer because of it #Tongue

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I played through renegade I didn't see a flying saucer. Then again I didn't pay attention to anything but killing and mayhem.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Second to last mission, purple saucer behind Nod refinery.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

gufu wrote:
It's a crashed Nod helicopter. It's been proven so, long time ago.

It's a crashed Orca, not a Nod helicopter #Tongue

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Pepzi
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Orac wrote:
On the other hand, Renegade got a flying saucer because of it #Tongue


Eh, no? I guess your just kidding. #Tongue

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Reaperrr wrote:
gufu wrote:
It's a crashed Nod helicopter. It's been proven so, long time ago.

It's a crashed Orca, not a Nod helicopter #Tongue


Correct, it's the front canopy of an ORCA. Why it's white remains unknown.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Crimsonum wrote:
Reaperrr wrote:
gufu wrote:
It's a crashed Nod helicopter. It's been proven so, long time ago.

It's a crashed Orca, not a Nod helicopter #Tongue


Correct, it's the front canopy of an ORCA. Why it's white remains unknown.

Must be some sorta TD style for 'crash' terrain objects
The crashed A10 bomber is also white (although I don't think this made it to the final release of TD but you can see it on one of the TD Beta shots)

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

SMIFFGIG wrote:
Crimsonum wrote:
Reaperrr wrote:
gufu wrote:
It's a crashed Nod helicopter. It's been proven so, long time ago.

It's a crashed Orca, not a Nod helicopter #Tongue


Correct, it's the front canopy of an ORCA. Why it's white remains unknown.

Must be some sorta TD style for 'crash' terrain objects
The crashed A10 bomber is also white (although I don't think this made it to the final release of TD but you can see it on one of the TD Beta shots)


They only said it was a "helicopter canopy". There was no talk about Orcas or Nod specifically. These details you guys keep bringing up is only assumptions and speculation.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yeah, they indeed said "helicopter canopy". Though they also said that the artist who made it was the only one that actually somehow recognised it as that #Tongue

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread


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nekro
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

But in the credits it says Thanks to Sean Brennan for the spaceship. i saw a .gif that cleared the thing up for me but still the Space Ship question remains.... WHERE IS IT!

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WHAT THE ZTYPE HAPPENED TO MY POST?!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

nekro wrote:
But in the credits it says Thanks to Sean Brennan for the spaceship. i saw a .gif that cleared the thing up for me but still the Space Ship question remains.... WHERE IS IT!

For god's sake read the thread(s) I posted

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Nyerguds wrote:
yeah, they indeed said "helicopter canopy". Though they also said that the artist who made it was the only one that actually somehow recognised it as that #Tongue


Chris/Stygs' gif anim pretty much shows how the shape is almost exact same as the ORCAs canopy.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I took it for a Nod helicopter due too the color scheme, mostly. After all, the Nod back then was white by default.

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hotrods20
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Nod or GDI? Find out tonight on PPM showdown!!! Buy tickets, Spend money, Watch!!! Okay back on topic who really knows if it is GDI or Nod? If you really want the answer go ask the man who produced it.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Just as good as asking the creator: Use your eyes!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I... sort of see it...

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I see it. It is a orca.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ITS THE SCRIN MOTHERSHIP!!!!!!!!11111oneone

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

one another note. I am curious if anyone has the concept art of said scrin ship or something, it looked like it rolled into it self and expanded almost like a tripod?

I recall maybe LKO or someone posted an image on one of the many scrin ship threads here. I can't seem to find it.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

sorry, but i can't follow you.
Do you mean this topic?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You don't mean this, do you? I don't recall anything else that matches your description even slightly.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Crimsonum wrote:
You don't mean this, do you? I don't recall anything else that matches your description even slightly.


That's the Scrin Mobile Constructor. The MCV of the Scrin.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ahh, well it wasn't either of those, but I did end up finding it on CnC source. thanks.

Alien Probe

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

cute #Tongue

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ickus wrote:
Ahh, well it wasn't either of those, but I did end up finding it on CnC source. thanks.

Alien Probe


Oh, that old thing. Yes, the concepts for C&C95 feature aliens #Tongue

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

IMO that thing seems to be floating. It never stands.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Orac, read the thread... it's not an Orca.

Ishmael:
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The artist that created that particular piece and I had a talk about this very issue once, so I'm simply relaying what he told me about it.

It's the canopy of a wrecked helicopter.

He was very amused by all the theories as to just exactly what it really was, but it isn't a UFO or a Scrin ship. It's a helicopter canopy. It was there since C&C (DOS).


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The spaceship ref in the credits is to something that happened outside of work.


Joseph:
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Its a crappy piece of art and doesn't even fit in with the art style. It was created before I even came on and took over (kinda on accident) the in-game art. When I re-did most of the Temperate set to be used in Red alert; I completely changed it to a very obvious crashed air plane.

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