i think its based on the Vickers tank but with bigger gun _________________ Link to a document to see what mods i have and/or working on or working with
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 5:47 am Post subject:
it only has 47mm gun,and it's really an old tank,so most of then has been broken by japs in the war _________________ Tiberian Tear is making, and I will try my best. QUICK_EDIT
the Vickers tank had 37mm gun at first. the chinese added the 47mm and later some had 65mm. only problem with that idea is the armor wasn't upgraded. and the desgin was for a scout unit because of this the engine was weaker with the 65mm but with HE rounds only, the japs just laughed it its pathic armor,
something the allies should of resolved back in 1930, but then the thing is this was about the same time as the depression after the first world war, there was little the allies could do.
again most allies could do was just use numbers to win , not so much on the way of fire power. if you ask me, that just asking for a owning _________________ Link to a document to see what mods i have and/or working on or working with
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yep and it was a very common tank too in WWII for scouting. why? i have no idea. _________________ Link to a document to see what mods i have and/or working on or working with
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 10:59 am Post subject:
thank you for your suggestion and dubzac is very knowledgeable in history,and does any body know shin peter pan?he is my teacher and i'm just imitate his model technologe,folks you can see the front of the tank just a little similar to shin peter pan's tank...... _________________ Tiberian Tear is making, and I will try my best. QUICK_EDIT
vickers with a good dose of infantry only combat could make a hell of a mess Vs infantry its hard to get away form a vickers of any version lol owns infantry.
JS-1's are still better lol _________________ Link to a document to see what mods i have and/or working on or working with
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 1:46 am Post subject:
Mediocre armor and underpowered weapons, doomed it in encounters with enemy armor. Sufficiently armed infantry could also wreck havoc. _________________ DUNK! QUICK_EDIT
By the looks of it, you can already tell it was a cheap and mass produced tank, had many in stock, so they thought "Why not sell em?"
China probably had not much of a choice, so they pretty much just bought them, while the bigger guns were being fielded at the west and pacific. _________________ Please, I DON'T read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:15 am Post subject:
Everybody is good in history but do you really know the Asian battlefield in worldwar2?The japanese soldier in China capital kill the everybody in the city,300000 people has been killed,but now japanese government said they haven't do this,most of the japanese people and even people in west land,i made the model just for tell the truth of the history. _________________ Tiberian Tear is making, and I will try my best. QUICK_EDIT
*off topic*
japanese people live in my country alot of them here? but chinese have more people here!
didn't the japs take Beijing 3 times and fail every time to hold it form counter attack form the chinese? _________________ Link to a document to see what mods i have and/or working on or working with
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 1:04 am Post subject:
No,the capital use to be in Nanjing,and beijing has been taked by japs in 7.july.1937,they just say a soldier lost way in beijing and wanna use the army to find him,it is a pretext and they wanna,the chinese army of course refuse the japs,and japs use there whole army near beijing to attack beijing then,and because of japs has the advanced weapon,beijing has been lost.and then,they have attack shanghai,Nanjing,and they kill the whole people in Nanjing.our government had to moved to Chongqing.. _________________ Tiberian Tear is making, and I will try my best. Last edited by Dragon Prime on Wed May 05, 2010 2:48 am; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 2:22 am Post subject:
Dragon Prime wrote:
japs has the advanced weapon
Not really. While Japanese infantry and naval weaponry was sufficiently advanced, in other areas, they lacked. Especially in Armour (although amphibious tanks are a tremendous achievement, if only, because the USSR didn't put them to incorrect use (See:Using Anti-Infantry light tanks against PANZERS)). However, their extreme numbers (soldier-wise) and lack of any restraints, gave them huge advantage over Chinese, who were not only in the middle of A CIVIL WAR, but had to use horribly outdated weapons (USSR mostly provided near-border support, at most sending supply convoys and air support). _________________ DUNK! QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 2:37 am Post subject:
but their weapon is more advanced to China,and they has the more trooper. _________________ Tiberian Tear is making, and I will try my best. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 2:48 am Post subject:
Well, when you speak of advanced weapons, usually that means that over world-level (at least of the few largest armies) technology is taken as base. _________________ DUNK! QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 3:01 am Post subject:
ok,i will agree with you,actually the japanese fighter is really good,they assault the Pearl Harbor successfully,and American fighter even cannot counter attack . _________________ Tiberian Tear is making, and I will try my best. QUICK_EDIT
No wounder noone really yahoo's about old allies tanks and machines.
in the first years they sucked on so many levels. _________________ Link to a document to see what mods i have and/or working on or working with
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 8:47 pm Post subject:
Well, there wasn't as much need nor experience to build new tanks upon. The only reason why light tanks existed in such numbers. _________________ DUNK! QUICK_EDIT
Does anyone have any info about Chinese Vickers Mk.2 tanks? All my usual sources say they didn't have any, only the Vickers 6-Ton, they also ordered several Vickers Mod.36 but I AFAIK they didn't receive any of them. _________________
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 9:15 am Post subject:
Can you make the Republic of China in D-Day?China is also an important power to fight with Axis.Their must be some picture of China tank on the Chinese website. _________________ Tiberian Tear is making, and I will try my best. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 10:44 am Post subject:
Well,the verkers MK2. It haven't ever produce,only in model.it was invented in 1966.it has 4 anti tank missile on the back of the turret. THIS IS THE INFO I CAN COLLECT IN CHINESE WEBSITE. _________________ Tiberian Tear is making, and I will try my best. QUICK_EDIT
Let me put it another way... WTF is this vxl based on!?
Gufu said it's a Vickers Mk.2 "Patrol", which is what the voxel actually looks like but China never had any of them so...
PS: I keep getting asked but I'm not going to add China to D-day. They where a very important part of world war 2 but they didn't make any of their own armaments & they few they did have where the left overs from the other major powers. So gameplay wise China would only have about 5-10 units that they would have to continuously spam in order to survive the the 100 odd units the other sides can pick from. _________________
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 4:39 pm Post subject:
Although,China has the strongest infantry and so many people in WW2,I have a suggestion.do not give china the strong vehicle power,just give china the verkers,T-26 and so on and give the strong and cheap infantry,chinese may use the mine laying technology and cloak technology,in history china soldier are like the ghost to fight with japs.china also has guerrilla.the speed is fast and shoot a bullet change a place then...... I really like the mod for WW2 and more like this mod have China,maybe I can take your DDay to China and make the translation to make more people know your mod. _________________ Tiberian Tear is making, and I will try my best. QUICK_EDIT
Practically, China suffered ALOT in WW2, while all the other bastards duked it out in Europe while Japan's other arm was out in the pacific. While all the other allied powers being the bastards they were and couldn't spare abit more men to help China, it was all for the greater good none the less. Without all that shit though, China wouldn't be as it is today _________________ Please, I DON'T read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
I think we are starting to go way off topic here... I still want to know what this vxl is based on.
If you really do want to debate Chinese history & whether or not they should be a side in D-day tho, then I welcome you to post in the D-day forums. _________________
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:03 pm Post subject:
The China was a horrible, mangled mess of WW2. Although unlike the Spain (which was a complete horror, as entire Republican faction caused more infighting than resistance, saping their own efforts). Although most of the action in China consisted of small assaults on Japanese lines (causing them to go berserk and kill of even more civilians). It was like soviet army in the beginning of German invasion. Minus ANY armor, except for a few horribly outdated tanks leftover by brits.
I think that Chinese had many more chances on getting their hands on Carden-Loyd tankette, than anything else. _________________ DUNK! QUICK_EDIT
gufu your picture looks more like the tank i was thinking of _________________ Link to a document to see what mods i have and/or working on or working with
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Mig, by the looks of it... I think his tank is mostly based on imagination.
Foreign Tanks In Chinese Service:
Britain
* VCL M1931: 29 purchased in 1935 and formed the 1st Tank Battalion.
* Vickers 6-Ton Mk E & F: About 20 were purchased and used in 1st and 2nd Tank Battalion.
* VCL Mk VI Carrier: 24 purchased in mid 1930s and used in 2nd Tank Battalion.
France:
* FT-17: 36 ordered. Attached to 1st Cavalry Brigade of the 1st Army Division in 1929.
Germany:
* PzKpfw IA: Approximately 10 served with 3rd Tank Battalion.
Italy:
* L3/35: Approximately 100 were purchased. Used in 2nd Tank Battalion.
Russia:
* T-26 M33: The Russians provided 88 from 1938 to 1939. Most were put into the 1st Tank Regiment and put into the 200th Infantry Division.
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 11:29 pm Post subject:
Ok,Mig,thank you.I will send you the technology tree of china and I think your DDay is a mod for the real history instead of a game. _________________ Tiberian Tear is making, and I will try my best. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 12:00 am Post subject:
Some part is by my imagination,but most of the parts was from a japan tank i watch it in a movie.and I wanna know if Mig do not like to add china in DDay,can i make an little mod based on DDay? _________________ Tiberian Tear is making, and I will try my best. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 12:00 am Post subject:
Some part is by my imagination,but most of the parts was from a japan tank i watch it in a movie.and I wanna know if Mig do not like to add china in DDay,can i make an little patch based on DDay with China in? _________________ Tiberian Tear is making, and I will try my best. QUICK_EDIT
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